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Provocateur. most importantly, he declined to appeal a federal court decision about stop, question, and frisk. and that took a lot of power away from the cops. the cops feel undermined. i don't like the booing and heck cling. i think you can respect the office if not the man. you can understand why the police are upset. >> they don't feel that they have the back of the mayor of the city of new york. i mean, one of his main jobs is to protect and serve, you know he, this city and by doing so he has to deal with public safety. this is the nypd which has been the shining example right, to the cou...

And to julie's point, the most stable it's been in decades. do you see that continuing or once everybody's onboard, it accelerates. >> i don't see how you add 30 million people into the mix and have a limited amount of doctors and see prices roll back. >> unless you ration. >> well, either with dramatic rationing, it'll be a lot more expensive. and people should realize, these penalties, they get bigger and larger, so the first year if you're an individual and don't get coverage, it's $90, the next year is $200. and the next year it's $600. >> and the next year they shoot you. and you say than...