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ask not what your country ca do for you mr. gorbachev teared down this wall states criminal indictment of former president of the united states good evening and thank you for being with us here tonight i am rachel maddow here at msnbc headquarters in new york along with lawrence o'donnel and joy reid, and nicole wallace, and chris hayes we are going to be joined by more of our closest colleagues over the course of this evenin tonight, as part of the specia coverage we know that you have ever choice in the world tonight as to where to get your news abou this historic event. that make...

A judge is going to do that's the reason you lay out your strongest ones, and here there are just too many options that i'm sure when the defense looked at this they were actually thinking this is more than what we sort of bargained for. >> catherine, let me just ask you to expand what andrew said there especially his point about how he don't necessarily have to charge the crime that would bump this up to a felony. you vus to show there was an intent to commit that crime, whether or not it was in fact committed, whether or not it is, in fact, charged for those of us who aren't lawyers that can...