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Encounters, 17,000. as i look rio grand sector the rio grande valley is up 175%, yuma up massively. all border sectors up across the border but some more so than others, how is it that the illegal immigrants focus on some areas, why in some areas versus others? >> well, look, the criminal cartels pay attention to the border patrol resource and where they are. let me say something straight. the 173,000, that may be accurate number on encounters. that's not a total number of illegal crossings in the united states. one thing this administration is doing. they are playing a shell game. they will s...

Crossing the river. so it's not over. dana? >> dana: as you talk to them, if you have an opportunity to, is their goal -- do they think they have a right to come to the united states? do they think they have claims of asylum? do they believe they should be granted asylum? >> reporter: what i'm hearing is there's no sense of entitlement. no, america owes me a citizenship or residency. when it comes to border control, they don't know what to expect. when it comes to the asylum claims, no, i don't hear from the majority of the people i'm talking to that say hey, if i show up, they owe me a place ...