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Who turned out to be just really good at what he had to be good at. >> right, right. racism, you know, in many ways is about probability. you know, you can go to any, you know, to most messed up neighborhood in the country with, yuou know, the worst socioeconomic conditions and can find a resilient individual who grows up there and, you know, overachieves and becomes, you know, in many ways better than all his pieers. that doesn't mean the situation is not messed up. he's a unique politician, very, very different. the fact people flipped to trump, it evinces all trump had to do, a guy who had ...

Years ago. >> that wasn't a lefty plot by a.c.o.r.n., golden week was just this idea you could go register and vote at the same time, it was the same period of time and it was good for turnout. it was good for participation. the republicans in control of the state just got rid of that and they didn't get rid of it with some, any argument about voter fraud. they just got rid of it. >> yeah, and there was a case that went to federal court then it was overturned after one of these registration -- one of these rollback, clawback on registration on opening up registration, a george bush judge voted...

But, you know, he's a realist. he knows at this time in 2011 it was herman cain leading, in 2007, it was giuliani. so he knows that, you know, voters will really make up their mind when we get closer to election day, so he's preparing for the possibility that he's going to just go and make a whole bunch of money for having run for president. >> do you agree? what do you read into those comments here? is that simply his pride talking or can we read something further into this? >> yuou know, i have a theory o trump. i think he got into this thing basically as a lark. he was surprised as anybody ...