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Artillery from the battlefield is a requirement. president zelenskyy needs mobile defense. go ahead. sorry to interrupt. there are two different views of the battlefield now in terms of both that aid. ukrainian capabilities and also whether russia has solved some of the problems they had in the north. you speak to some folks who said ukrainians have the advantage in the east. able to push the russians back. others including the u.k. prim minister who fears the russians can grind ukrainian military forces down. where do you stand? so what the ukrainians have demonstrated is that their troops have the will, they have the capacity to adapt and they are infinitely better at emotional warfare than the russians have proven to be. they have interior lines. we are rapidly moving mobility ....
these are deliberate attacks on shrivcivilian targets by rus forces, happening on easter weekend. orthodox easter weekend. thanks so much. let s go to washington. cnn s senior washington correspondent, joe johns, at the white house. as you know, this kind of information about senior level visits to war torn countries kept very secret for operational security yet the ukrainian president revealing this in advance. have you gotten any comment from the white house or the defense department? any indication that because of the security concerns this trip might be reconsidered? jim, this is very closely held information as you just indicated and we have been reaching out across the biden administration to try to get some confirmation or otherwise about what president zelenskyy said and so far, we have pretty much gotten nothing. what we are getting is a ....
Jim? would be remarkable for such a long anticipated, long desired visit to be disrupted by disclosing that information in advance. thanks so much. joining me now to discuss, former u.s. ambassador to nato. he also served as u.s. special envoy for ukraine. now senior adviser for the atlantic council. it s good to have you this evening. you ve been involved in high level visits like this throughout your career. tell me what you would advise the secretary of state, the secretary of defense under these circumstances? you know that these are considered dangerous visits and this is information deliberately kept very private. sure. let s face it. president zelenskyy is in kyiv every day and he s target number one. so he is braving this out. secondly, other foreign leaders, prime ministers, presidents, have visited kyiv already and more are going to do so. so i think it would be exceptional if the united states did not proceed with the visit. ....
Of course, it s unfortunate that the information was leaked out. i m sure that there will be some discussions about that behind closed doors. but at this stage, i don t think there s any reason to turn around and more over, the symbolism of secretary of state and secretary of defense appearing in kyiv with president zelenskyy and making clear full u.s. support and commitment to ukraine s success in this war is extraordinarily important. tell me to that point, tell me about the significance of having both of them come, right? you have your senior diplomat in the secretary of state blinken and you have your senior most civilian military official in the secretary of defense, lloyd austin. why that combination in your view? well, it conveys commitment. it conveys military commitment to ukraine, also commitment to ukraine s international relationships. its relationship with nato. its relationship with european union. the involvement in diplomacy. ....