That a federal government and national government will draw a line in the sand when it comes to a loss of native wildlife and ecosystems and say no more extinctions. that is a bold move. as you've outlined, the proof will be in the pudding. and what the policies, reforms and funding that follow this goal, and how they deliver, on zero extinction, is what will be the key test. they seem to have marked out this number, about 100, 110 different species. what is your feeling about that in terms of its ambition, i suppose? it is a start. we have almost 2000 nationally threatened species and ecosyst...