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Frances, politics a zero sum game middle ground is no man's land people are total victory or utter defeat a rout of the republicans. that is how it will be seen. that is how it is being seen in the aftermath of this. yes, obviously, the president's approval rating is probably going to bounce back after this. he will have an opportunity to deliver the state of the union speech which becomes a side show in the controversy the back and forth with nancy pelosi and donald trump over that he will have an opportunity to address the country. the question is will he learn from the experience? will that...

All of the immigrants in, he would do that. right, david? don't you think? >> don, yeah, if i could jump in there, to your point and to follow up on what april was just saying, look, the president does things and has been doing things to hold on to the 40% of the country that's with him. but politics is a game of addition, and he is not adding onto his coalition to where he has a majority of the country behind him. he's got 40%. the bottom has not fallen out on him. but he does nothing to expand on that because he plays to that 40% on issues, as april said, like immigration where it's a zero-s...

About the health or comfort of terrorists committed to the destruction of the united states and the murder of innocents. we have millions of people in this country who need back surgery, joint replacements, kidney replacements. money zero-sum, every dollar we send over there to take care of a murderer or terrorist is a dollar taken out of the health care system here that could be used to take care of af kid or someone elderly who has outlived their own fund. this is an outrageous argument. >> you may not care, i know you don't care and that's a fair point. but the u.s. flag, thee, u.s. constit...

The cable news audience. but i literally, not figuratively, do not care a bit about the health or comfort of terrorists committed to the destruction of the united states and the murder of innocents. we have millions of people in this country who need back surgery, joint replacements, kidney replacements. money zero-sum, every dollar we send over there to take care of a murderer or terrorist is a dollar taken out of the health care system here that could be used to take care of a kid or someone elderly who has outlived their own fund. this is an outrageous argument. >> you may not care, i know ...

Not u.nilaterally disarm, but look for areas where they can take off the table the use of procedural warfare in politics. so, again fight -- fight for fairer maps. um, you know, reverse voter suppression tactics. i think there's a way to get it right. i have one more question. i understand might have trouble, but thunderdome pot tickets, is that politics. >> remember obama said if he won in 2012, the neefr would break, and of course it didn't. what i mean by thunderdome politics, you saw one man -- two men enter, one man leaves. thunderdome politics refers to this zero-sum, all bets off stru...