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This. he's a complete pro, but these are not actually debates. we've had this conversation before. they are interesting televised appearances with some aspects of debate. but i do think that the answer to something you raised earlier, that from mitt romney may indeed want to refer to what happened in benghazi and libya, oversights and so forth, and the context of a larger leadership. however, in my personal opinion and this is shared by a lot of republicans, that anytime mitt romney spins isn't on the economy and jobs, tonight's debate as much he can, he's going to be time wasted for him. in t...

Wins the debate. exceptions. gerald ford in '76 against jimmy carter, who felt very nervous debating with an incumbent president. he was little bit modest. then clinton and bob dole. >> howard dean said that president obama should not make the same mistake al gore did in 2000 against george w. bush. >> that's not the way america's meant to be. >> and there, there's nixon with the flop sweat. george h.w. bush looking at his watch. appearances count, don't they? >> they really do. and a professional knows that. george h.w. bush in that debate, that third one in richmond in 1992, he was looking a...

Row and said why not harvest moon. >> challengers can benefit from being on stage with an incumbent. we've seen that before. take a look at this clip. >> ask yourself, are you better off than you were four years ago? >> now, this race has often been compared to the carter reagan race in 1980 and the romney campaign has used that line of attack. is that the idea of what you think we might hear tonight? what kind of zinger are we going to hear? >> well, in reagan's case, he took from franklin roosevelt, who used that in the 1930s over the radio, so these things have a long lineage. i think you'r...

The optics of it. here's what he said. >> if the republicans want to defend the bush administration's response to katrina, i'm sure the president would give them his time during the debate to do that. but look, i am, i have to say i'm a little amazed that as you mentioned, a widely covered speech, likely by people at your network, is somehow caused a cur fluff l five years later. >> i love that. so, dan, i guess question is there is no doubt about this fact that it was covered. it was open to the public. it was talked about during that time. is it smart of the republican party to bring this ba...

Other candidates had run over time. it didn't really compute this was sending the message that he was impatient, just the kind of message he didn't want to send. >> humor can be an effective tool, diffuse a weakness. >> i will not make age an issue of this campaign. i am not going to exploit for political purposes my opponent's youth and inexperience. >> and at that moment, a lot of people said well, there's the ball game. including his opponent. >> including walter mondale. >> what do you think about humor as a tool in this debate tonight? >> you'd better be a very accomplished actor like rea...