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Back up for now, i'm going to and that over?; to my colleagun new york city who will have mori ahead this hour on dorian's progression and how residents along the southeast coast continue to brace for the fullj impact of the storm. >> thank you very much. just surreal image to see@uét island, the çóbahamas, theçó iss that you show earlier at the top of the program flooded under water. i think it captures for a lot of people what is ate>a stake as fs begin to recover fvrj devastating hurricane. thank you very much, craig. we'lli] have a lot more about ts throughout the course of the hour ...

Time around? it's unbelievable the stuff that he says without, you know, feeling any irony or hypocrisy at all. now, to find out what effect this will have on the çgop, th democrats and president obama, let's bring in my next guest. joining me now "washington post" columnist and senior fellow for the brookings institution e.j. dionne. do you agree with karl rove that a shutdown hurts the democrats and helps the republicans? >> i guess it pains me to say yes as well. i think he's right. if i can use a little washingtonology here. warl karl rove is very close to barry jackson who is john boehn...