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Know, half a century ago. no, no. the president of the united states was bloviating. let's be honest about it he didn't know what the heck he was talking about. when the scandal first broke he said the right thing the!çí irs should not be used to intimidate people of any persuasion, republican democrat, liberal or conservative. now he has figured out that these were people working to do in his political enemies then is he all warm and fuzzy about it and blaming it on the stupid congress and avoiding responsibility. >> it wasn't a whiff of scandal here, remember he said that to me in the supe...

It but i wanted to get that clarified. >> they call me crazy and they are entitled to that view. >> me too. >> we are the poster boys for it you said going on this program was worse than being in captivity in north vietnam. do you remember saying that to me? >> that was a joke. >> i know it was a joke. >> what i said was i hadn't had so much fun since my last interrogation. >> i don't doubt it we always aappreciate you coming on, thank you. >> thank you bill. >> freedom of information documents showing karl rove's organization targeted by the irs. mr. rove will be here. later, ed henry on how ...

Personal story segment tonight, the irs targeting conservative group story not going away. this week, president obama appeared with jon stewart. >> what happened with the irs? >> well, you got this back office and they are going after the tea party. well, it turned out no, congress has passed a -- a crummy law that didn't give people guidance in terms of what they were trying to do. they did it poorly and stupidly,b but that becomes. [ laughter ] >> you really do have only a year left. that's unbelievable. >> now yesterday judicial watch released documents it obtained through the freedom of in...

Personal story segment tonight, the irs targeting conservative group story not going away. this week, president obama appeared with jon stewart. >> what happened with the irs? >> well, you got this back office and they are going after the tea party. well, it turned out no, congress has passed a -- a crummy law that didn't give people guidance in terms of what they were trying to do. they did it poorly and stupidly,b but that becomes. [ laughter ] >> you really do have only a year left. that's unbelievable. >> now yesterday judicial watch released documents it obtained through the freedom of in...

What was irs doing to g.p.s. exactly? >> not only did g.p.s. but also the u.s. chamber of commerce. what they were attempting to do was attempting to look at the individual donors to this 50 1 c 4 g.p.s. and the 501 c 6 the u.s. chamber and then subject those donors to a 35% tax on any gift that they gave to these two organizations. now, the problem was that in 1982 the united states supreme court disallowed this specific procedure that the irs was contemplating applying to the donors of our group and donors to the chamber. >> was that what president obama was referring to that congress passed...