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President. you have two sorts of people, people who is ego centric and some people who are job centric, this job has certain duties, it's my job to carry them out the best i can. most people in washington are generally job centric. they're just trying to do the job. but there are ego centric people. >> helene, what's going on in the white house in terms of how they're separating this, finding the people involved with this? >> not necessarily at all. for the white house, this is really -- it's a really tricky thing for them. particularly for president obama. because keep in mind that these are ...

President. you have two sorts of people, people who is ego centric and some people who are job centric, this job has certain duties, it's my job to carry them out the best i can. most people in washington are generally job centric. they're just trying to do the job. but there are ego centric people. >> helene, what's going on in the white house in terms of how they're separating this, finding the people involved with this? >> not necessarily at all. for the white house, this is really -- it's a really tricky thing for them. particularly for president obama. because keep in mind that these are ...

Situation in egypt. it's all conflation, just like if somebody hits us from somewhere, we go hit iraq. keep it confused. keep it confused, a billion of them piece are they're not all out to get us. if you do that, that's what al qaeda wants us to get, them totally focused on them representing a billion people. >> that would be ill-advised. i key is when people say in 2011, when people say someone's a muslim, it's not what it would have meant 20 years ago. it means he's one of those people that got us a 9/11, that might be blowing up aç plane. it's all coded language, and again i think it's r...

Determine what exactly is the cause of the crash. >> at this point,am)urj still early in thvgs that i understand, but do we know anything -- early in the investigation, but do we know anything÷ú more about the childn that were on board that was killed in this crash. >> what we're hearing from turkish staid media is that there was at least --ç roughly people on board this plane. now, there is some reports. we haven't been able to verify this, one of the people on the plane may haveç survived. but we're still looking into badly. investigators are going to be looking at what was the cargo o...