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>> bill: she isn't blaming the pusher. >> denise, i'm sorry about your loss, but if you think about it, maybe our children will still be alive today if that drug dealer didn't giveç the drug to our children. yes, it was my son's ian's choice to use drugs, but i wanted to get him off the streets, because i didn't want to see this happen to another family. we can't be a nation of enablers. it perpetuates the disease of addiction. >> bill: it's interesting there's such a sharp disagreement among good people. i have to tell you, ms. cullen, i know people killed by drugs, i know drug dealers, and...

Your son paid the price. he's dead. you're giving the guy who, made the drug son accessible not only to your son but other people as well a total pass. why would you do that? >> mr. o'reilly, we've been doing this for 40 years. we've been doing this for 40 years. it doesn't work. >> bill: it works. the tough mandatories, dropped cocaine use 71%. 71%. >> i think your numbers areç skewed. >> no. these are numbers that come froz the white house. go ahead. >> what i would like to focusç on,ápxym mr. o'reilly,ç is pren now, and decent education in the beginning. we have a bill in the assemb...

>> no. >> bill: she isn't blaming the pusher. >> denise, i'm sorry about your loss, but if you think about it, maybe our children will still be alive today if that drug dealer didn't giveç the drug to our children. yes, it was my son's ian's choice to use drugs, but i wanted to get him off the streets, because i didn't want to see this happen to another family. we can't be a nation of enablers. it perpetuates the disease of addiction. >> bill: it's interesting there's such a sharp disagreement among good people. i have to tell you, ms. cullen, i know people killed by drugs, i know drug deale...

>> no. >> bill: she isn't blaming the pusher. >> denise, i'm sorry about your loss, but if you think about it, maybe our children will still be alive today if that drug dealer didn't giveç the drug to our children. yes, it was my son's ian's choice to use drugs, but i wanted to get him off the streets, because i didn't want to see this happen to another family. we can't be a nation of enablers. it perpetuates the disease of addiction. >> bill: it's interesting there's such a sharp disagreement among good people. i have to tell you, ms. cullen, i know people killed by drugs, i know drug deale...