with the guardian. he was in the courtroom this morning, and charles coleman, former brooklyn prosecutor and now legal analyst and host of the charles coleman podcast. good to have you both here. hugo, you first here. cameras were not allowed in the courtroom so we need you to give us a sense of what it was like inside and what stood out to you in this first wake? >> it was surreal with former president trump being the first former or current president to go to trial. it was a semiinal moment and the enormity of the moment was not lost on any in the courtroom, the reporters or the jurors when they filed in to the courthouse and effectively looked at trump, looked at the prosecution team and had to go through the voir dire process. to give a sense of how this worked, there was a pool of

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