insistence on so what on earth is a crime. what's a crime of which i just described. he says that these business records, violations, 34 counts are really just 34 pieces of paper. chuck, how necessary is it for a defense in this case or in any case to obfuscate things and to try and clarify those things that can best benefit your client? >> sure, jose, with the caveat, again, that the defense doesn't have to prove anything and the burden never shifts to the defense, trying to make the government's case seem more complex than the government made it is a tact. nothing wrong with it. the defense attorneys have one advantage here. they can say things in their opening statement and not actually have to prove it. at the end of the day, the government cannot at any point

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