president's culpability, and the case's legal complexity. one of the potential first witnesses expected to testify is david pecker, the former ceo of america media incorporated, who bought and buried damaging stories about trump. it's called catch and kill. he is alleged to have worked with trump and his former attorney, michael cohen, to bury the stormy daniels story. other witnesses expected to testify include michael cohen, stormy daniels, former trump aide hope hicks, and former playboy model karen mcdougal, who also alleged a sexual relationship with trump. and as former president trump left court on friday, he continued to insist that he plans to testify in his own defense. oh, joining us now, former litigator and msnbc legal correspondent lisa rubin.

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