Transcripts For ALJAZ NEWSHOUR 20240714

A lot i think will depend on the size of the crowd also the mood of the crowd there is a see the sense of frustration here that after weeks of these exhausting marches the government simply hasnt moved there have listened to peoples requests and as weve seen at times some of that frustration has been taken out in the form of violence by a very small minority of marchers youve got to remember that this these marches are often hundreds of thousands of people strong but there yes there has been some violence violent clashes between police underscore Minority Party and rob but whats being made then of the discovery that the police are calling extremely powerful homemade explosives around to kill 2 kilograms of quite dangerous materials. It is a quite worrying development it is certainly raised the tension levels here is what people are talking about especially as the police say that they found leaflets and also. Some clothes. That links them with one of these socalled localist groups which have been demanding independence so yes it is of concern if this does turn out to be true that this war with these were explosives being made by some people who were calling for them to take their demands and told me basically for violence here in our garden that its extremely concerning for people it also has to be noted that police have made another 2 arrests that we now have 3 suspects who have been arrested and by june i should mention they are saying that this was one of the largest caches of explosives that they have found so far in hong kong let me read mcbride live in hong kong thank you very much. Still to come here at aljazeera we look at china strategy to remain one of the worlds Major Economic players. Dont step to my greatest growth allowed outside the home of puerto ricos governor. Hello there quite a mix of weather across europe and 2 main stories not a little for all the trout is not surprising that is where the rain is also a lot of thunderstorms working their way eastwards and then where we have these kids skies it is going to be about the temperatures because they really are on the increase you can see these warm colors across much of the south so what weve got is High Pressure pushing in from the southwest and as it does that the temperatures will continue to rise on sunday 39. 00 degrees in madrid but look at is 29. 00 in paris 24. 00 in london 28. 00 in zurich and then as we head into monday youll see that hot air really pushing ever bit further 32 in paris and 28 in london it will change in madrid but those temperatures across Central Europe really will fail noticeably wilma but they should also come with a fair amount of sunshine also all areas the Central Regions 24. 00 in berlin with some cloud 27. 00 in vienna and we could have she hasnt thunderstorms really across the baltics pushing across into poland down towards the alps and then youll see on monday bit of a break in that rain across much of the u. K. And it tends to say further to the north on monday so theres that warm day in london on monday and then say with these good kid skies but be prepared for these temperatures to actually continue to rise certainly across essentially Western Areas very cloudy the monday across Central Regions but you should at least have a dry day with a high of 23 im ballin. A conflict that is now considered to be the worlds worst humanitarian crisis how many did not all have to die to score stock he starts is really for sale an investigation into how billions of euros are made from supplying arms to saudi arabia a leader of the Coalition Fighting a war in the south the case is interesting to watch as the amounts of money involved yemen war profiteers coming soon. To take over the top stories here doubtless there britain insists the tanker that the seized by iran was in a monster retore a waters its called for the release of the vessel in a letter to the Un Security Council after the government held a 2nd emergency meeting in less than 24 hours at least 8 people have been killed in 2 attacks in the western pakistan 2 Police Officers were shot dead at a checkpoint in dead. 6 other people including civilians died in a blast at a hospital entrance the Pakistan Taliban has claimed responsibility. Protesters in hong kong are gathering for another mass rally as they continue to put pressure on the government there demanding the official withdrawal of a planned extradition law and an independent inquiry into the handling of weeks of demonstrations thats a scene like. The hundreds of protesters continue to mass outside the residence of puerto ricos embattled governor demanding his resignation. The protests began after a series of leaked online chats insulting Women Political opponents and even victims of Harakah Maria became public Gabriel Elizondo is in the capital. The sounds of the people the Historic Buildings of old saddle and banging pots and pans is a sign of political protest outside the fortified mansion where puerto ricos governor ricardo c. E. O. Has been holed up for a week with the people calling for him to go to guy never being held accountable for his actions that hes found to have to be held accountable for his actions says he does not fit into the job c. E. O. Has not been seen publicly since last weekend when hundreds of pages of his leaked private messages were released showing the governor mocking and ridiculing his own people the result is the worst crisis puerto rico has ever seen and some of the largest and most sustained protests is well despite multiple days of scenes like this protests right on the governors front porch hes refused to step down so the next question is what comes next if he doesnt get done i will come here and every time that i and protest and all of my people the next step is are going to start closing down the streets i know were closing on the highways on monday all of you just going to make the economy and a local guy or a neighbor who really understand whats going on that way you could feel it from the back end if the governor steps down the puerto rican secretary of state takes his place but he resigned last week amid the scandal the post is now empty and people here had no plans to wait until november next year when the governors up for reelection theyre making noise now for change until the governor by a week heres their calls and leave the uncertainty of what comes next for another day. How does the san juan puerto rico. Japans governing coalition looks set to win a majority in sundays upper house election but its still unclear whether Prime Minister shinzo will secure the 2 thirds majority needed for a culture change that could loosen restrictions on the armed forces for the salami has the latest from taking. Polls indicates a solid win for the Ruling Coalition in japan in the about house elections the main themes here are amending the constitution increasing taxes consumption tax from 8 to 10 percent and fixing the defaults on both limbs in the pension and Social Security system by mr abi who has the liberal democratic voting party is broke missing voters the ability he has been by mr for 6 on the half years and hes now becoming the longest serving Prime Minister in japans history after the war amending the constitution would mean changing article number 9 in the constitution which are announced as war defines the status of the selfdefense forces many of japans neighbors there warded about this change if it takes place and they are both changing the pacifist constitution theyre afraid that it could mean that japan is heading again to. Prime minister shinzo abe is known to be a close friend to. Tokyo many times but its more the security and stability of the region through military cooperation so all eyes now are on the results of this important elections. Negotiations between the u. S. And china to end a yearlong trade war may soon resume after President Trump said his treasury secretary had had a great talk with his chinese counterpart it comes as china confronts its biggest slowdown in Economic Growth in almost 3 decades when hey he has more now on how this will affect the communist partys future policies. The thousands of years people in china have been gathering around tables trying to outsmart each other in the game of my job its increasingly caught on around other parts of the world to a source of pride for experts in the game teach foreigners visiting the Chinese Capital beijing this game 3 people together you know during this game isnt as to winning but if a player does want to win they need to strategize something Chinas Communist Party has done very well to survive and succeed in the late 1970 s. The party changed its strategy of isolation to modernization by opening up to the outside world. By embracing capitalist ideals of business and trade china became the factory of the world with the 2nd largest economy behind its current trade war enemy the United States but economically china is slowing down recording its lowest quarterly growth in 27 years and the world is watching what happens next the great wall of china was built primarily to keep invaders out the greatest fear of todays rule is the communist party is of domestic political instability which could lead to their overthrow thats why they know they need to continue to reform and develop the economy to ensure most people have jobs and an opportunity to improve their lives the theory being that as long as its delivering those things it can run the country largely the way it wants continuing to restrict free speech and stamp out disinter long the way. If the economy becomes stronger the party has a last incentive to change it will only change we did feel its roots challenged in the opening and the reform process only happened because the economy was collapsing if the economy grows there will think the model is successful with more than one. And its been able to use that model to become an economic superpower while rejecting scrutiny of things like alleged human rights abuses most recently the government denounced 22 nations for signing a letter condemning china for the detention of we get muslims in shin jang province but it embraced a supporter of letter signed by 37. 00 countries including several muslim majority nations that have large economic deals with china. But many chinese believe theres a lack of understanding about this country and its people which leads to what they say is unfair treatment by others particularly the United States they reveal that its a look at another country the reveals the look and another perspective so they only hear what they want to hear chinas strategy is to be a modern powerful socialist country its proved its a serious player and in some cases is rewriting the rules of the game wayne hay al jazeera beijing. Now millions of kenyans rely on loans to make ends meet and getting a loan from dozens of companies is especially easy if youve got a mobile phone but many called repay what theyve borrowed and now 400000 people are on the governments credit blacklist the Central Bank Governor says he wants to crack down on lenders some use unscrupulous methods to lure kenyans into debt. From nairobi. 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Comic conic joseph is one of them he took out different 100. 00 from several lenders 2 years ago he was unable to repay the loans and now nearly 200. 00. Dollars because of that hes been blacklisted by the credit traffords bureau. I have to pay rent buy food and took my children to school with the money get businesses not been doing good even if i get 100. 00 of the end of the month with all the responsibilities paying but my lawn is going to be swiped priorities. 54 percent of people polled recently by the central bank in kenya bureau of statistics said their financial status had wasnt the poll also indicates a Credit Reference Bureau has blacklisted more than 400000 boras some 4 default littlest 2. 00. Back of the garage and his friends discuss how hard life has become most are repaying several loans some are on the block least all tell us that even need a Loan Companies have helped them in times of need they still feel and trapped index catherine aljazeera arabic. Theyve been celebrations in the United States to mark the exact moment 50 years ago when man 1st set foot on the. 3. Great grandma. Or kwan. And that was a scene earlier in houston where footage of astronaut Neil Armstrong was played to a Live Audience present gildan has more from the smithsonian air and space museum in washington d. C. 50 years later to the 2nd americans relive the moment Neil Armstrong walked on the moon for the 1st time and as half a century ago a divided nation is searching for unity with Digital Computers with the state of technology that we have now its really about thinking about how are we going to put that together in really for what purpose it needs to have a singular purpose that has funding behind it and has a consistent push that allows you to then move enough forward to be able to actually get to that goal at Cape Canaveral the Vice President buzz aldrin and Neil Armstrong sound at his side declared a new dawn in human exploration america will lead in space once again. And this nation will once again astonish the world with the heights we reach and the wonders we achieve also on saturday 3 astronauts escape earths gravity to join the International Space station a russian an american and an italian now in the elite club of some 570 humans who have orbited the earth. In the face of this unity the u. S. Is declaring it will be every bit as a bishop and dominant in space as 50 years ago discover like the legendary apollo flight director gene kranz says now is over failure is not an option. Its now just a matter of making good on that promise russell jordan aljazeera washington. Lets have a look at the top stories here it is here britain is insisting a tanker seized by iran was in ammans territorial waters and its called for the release of the vessel in a letter to the Un Security Council after the government held a 2nd emergency meeting in less than 24 hours at least 8 people have been killed in 2 attacks in northwestern pakistan 2 Police Officers were shot dead at a checkpoint in debtor israel 6 other people including civilians died in the blast at the hospital entrance the Pakistan Taliban has claimed responsibility protesters in hong kong are gathering for another mass rally as they continue to put pressure on the government there demanding the official withdrawal of a planned extradition law and an independent inquiry into the handling of weeks of demonstrations robin wright has mall. It is similar to a lot of other marches what makes this different and in some in some respects quite concerning for the authorities is that they intend to stop this march about half way we are in the causeway barrier of hong kong these marches wanted to take their protest all the way to the Central Business district of hong kong the police in your storage fees here i have requested them are all telling them that their march will stop in one trial thats an area thats halfway between here and central and we have no idea at the moment whether the protesters will stop japans governing coalition is set to win a majority in sundays election but its still unclear whether Prime Minister shinzo rb will secure the 2 thirds majority needed for a constitutional change that could loosen restrictions on the armed forces British Airways and the German Airline of france or has suspended flights to egypts capital cairo because of security concerns the be a ban will last a week to allow for a security assessment the airlines given no details about what prompted the move all right joe today those are the latest headlines inside story is next. On counting the cost the trillion dollar lunar bounty 50 years after man 1st stepped on the moon we find out why theres a scramble to return and the number of people going hungry has risen for the 3rd year running we find out whats gone wrong. Counting the cost. Tensions between iran and the west our brains and another notch iran detains a british oil town for 2 weeks out in the u. K. Seized one of its ships while tehran and london find compromise but what is a situation going to spiral out of control this is inside. Now and welcome to the program and fully back when the u. K. Sees an Iranian Oil Tanker 2 weeks ago tehran warned of retaliation when it appears iran has carried out that threat Iranian Revolutionary guards detained a british vessel in the strait of hormuz on friday it was sailing towards a saudi port when it suddenly changed course a powerful council that works closely with irans Supreme Leader says a seizure is in response to the you came pounding any raney and tanka tehran earlier said the step in and para was involved in an accident with any rainy and fishing boat. Before we were informed that a british flag the oil tank it collided with a fishing boat which tried to contact the tanker and find out how the accident happened but unfortunately the british tanker didnt respond and changed his direction changing direction in that fashion is against International Regulations it could lead to new accidents therefore we requested help from military forces it should issue authorities in the region potential was directed to ponder about sports and history custody of the order of judicial authorities while britain has summoned irans envoy to the u. K. And its foreign secretary says hes worried iran may be going down a dangerous path need baka has more from london. Britain has said that there will be a considered and rebuffed response to the seizure of a british tanker in the strait of hormuz if according to jeremy hunt britains foreign secretary the tank isnt released soon there will be serious consequences the foreign secretary tweeted on saturday morning calling the seizure of the tanker illegal in sharp contrast to what he said was the legal detention over the rainy and vessel the beginning of july off the coast of gibraltar that vessel is accused of carrying oil to syria in breach of the sanctions and on friday the authorities. Also determined that vessel should be detained for a further 30 days this is very much being seen in the u. K. As a tit for tat seizure but as we know that the greeks one vessel off gibraltar is going through some sort of Legal Process its not as simple as simply allowing the grace want to go free and hoping that the iranians will will follow suit as well when it comes to the strait of hormuz well it is hugely important strategically politically and economically 18 and a half 1000000 barrels of oil a day flow through the strait in comparison to 5000000 that goes through the suez canal its hugely important for crude Oil Producing countries in the region when it comes to allowing their goods to go to Global Markets as well this will undoubtedly and will have a political and Economic Impact not only in the region but globally as well this is the parker for inside story. Well theres been a series of incidents around the strait of hormuz since President Trump all the u. S. Out of the 2050 nuclear deal and impose new sanctions on iran in may the United Arab Emirates said 4 of its oil tankers were targeted off its coast and saudi arabia reported 2 of its ships were attacked last month 2 vessels now we can end up an easel and were hit by blasts that cause major fires in the gulf of oman in june iran said it shot down a u. S. Drone which violated its as space this month july 4th British Royal marines seize any rainy and tanker brotha suspected of carrying oil bound for syria 2 weeks later President Donald Trump said the u. S. Military had taken down an iranian drone that came too close to one of its naval vessels in the strait of hormuz but iran denied that john was shot. In the earlier lets now bring in our guests for todays inside story joining us from london andreas creek assistant professor in the Defense Studies Department at Kings College london in tehran with. A political commentator and lecturer at the university of applied sciences and in washington d. C. Joel rubin president of the Washington Strategy group a National Security Consulting Firm welcome to you all gentlemen thank you so much for being on inside story mostafa what legitimate basis does iran have for seizing this british ship what rules have been broken for the revolutionary guards to seize this british tanker. Hello as a mother effect there are a number of reasons that could justify this seizure 1st and foremost as you heard during the package your reporter said theres been a collision and unfortunately the tanker has defied calls by that fishing boat it never returned the calls and it switched off this tracking system in then the rain in boat filed a complaint at this state poort shipping and Maritime Organization who asked the judiciary to issue a courtroom for the seizure of the tanker and the i i just the only comply with the courts ruling so thats according to maritime rules and Regulations International maritime rules and regulations in to protect safety of navigation and shipping in the strait of hormuz which is very much crowded you know these days especially we need to protect the everything in the strait of for most flight but let me ask you a voyage and unnecessary isolation scene for this british to any stack not retaliation for the grace one iranian tanker that was season gibraltar 2 weeks ago. I was explaining the same fact that as a matter of fact you know a several 100 or all tens of boats and tankers. Go through the strait of hormuz on a daily basis and some of them you know violate the procedures that are in place and have been in place for the last several decades but iran normally warns them and let them continue their voyage and sailing but when iran has been approached by the u. K. Through a hostile action and its ship has been supertankers been seized then there wouldnt be any reason left for iran to show kindness and therefore it goes for a serious practice of. Rick rules that are they need to practice actually in order to protect the lives of the people and the environment on the other hand according to International Law when a hostile actions are taken by a nation that would harm a 2nd nation that 2nd nation is entitle to take reciprocal action according to International Law as long as of the 1st nation continues to inflict harm on this harmed nation the only nation let me bring in andrea what they want honest done is totally justifiable you say what iran has done is justifiable andreas creagh in london the rising tension certainly couldnt come at a worse time for the u. K. Jeremy hunt the foreign secretary is in the midst of a Leadership Election Campaign to replace theresa may as Prime Minister hes one to serious consequences what do you expect those consequences will be and what can britain realistically do here were yes thank you i mean he said the response would be robust would iran not go further and actually release the tank immediately the question here is what can the u. K. Do at the moment i think theyre the u. K. Is obviously both down in a lot of domestic internal political allies where its very difficult to get out of that we need to look at the levers of power that the u. K. Has at its disposal at the moment in the gulf and so the Royal Navy Navy has a presence in bahrain they are sending another frigate and warship into the region but from a naval point of view looking at the platforms at 3 platforms at the royal navys not the royal navy will have its very very difficult to actually really you know make use make use of that power and and especially against an estimate rick threat that comes from iran and then looking at diplomatic leaves of power we shouldnt you know we need to understand that here from the Western Point to be more generally usually in this kind of situation youre using gauge me but you try to use you need to have a concept of component to actually put pressure on the iranians and that. Kind of course of measures these have been already kind of exploited to its maximum. Because of you know this maximum pressure complain and we have very very few means available now to bring more pressure on iran because the sanctions already have may be maxed out oh let me just ask you before i bring in joel in washington andreas why did the brits seize you any in tanker in gibraltar 2 weeks ago the Iranian Police at the u. K. Following us orders here what is the u. K. s role in this dispute i mean look at the maximum pressure compay an obviously is an american thing but it obviously brings all the parties to the j sapir way to the table and obviously britain is part of that a britain isnt a very ambiguous situation because on the one hand they do want to leave any back door open for negotiations and engagement with iran to make this a success despite all the pressure but on the other hand theyre also trying to suggest to to washington that they will take action whenever you iran is in breach of International Law and and sanctions and that particular the was the case with an oil tanker that went against your law and your sanctions to deliver all to the Syrian Regime so it was taking illegitimate unlawful actions in that respect and its also about signalling to the us that you know the britain will not be soft on iran when it is in bridge and the same goes to the hezbollah decision a couple of months ago to basically target as well as a terrorist organisation which again is in line with the truck ministrations hard line view on irans activities across the region but all that being said theyre trying to balance this with a diplomatic engagement trying to suggest to the iranians that were still willing to talk but there are certain red lines that britain wants to enforce and thats what they did all right i see must have a question in tehran doesnt agree with you ill bring you in in just a 2nd mustapha but let me just say get joel rubin is of you phrase joe how do you view this latest escalation in the region is it a foreseeable response to britain seizure of the iranian tanker engine brought to 2 weeks ago. Well this incident is not just and was not just foreseeable but the entire tit for tat explanation that we had earlier of drones being shot down both sides that was all highly predictable the american policy in this President Trumps policy is i believe ultimately to try to break the regime its a maximum pressure policy and it has not led to diplomatic engagement so were in a very dangerous spot right now were in a tinder box of this back and forth about whos right to seize whos ship and who has legitimacy and who doesnt is completely the wrong conversation for what we should be having you think but here we are adhesion behind your conversation about actually diplomacy now do you think this incident gives admonition to hardline voices in the u. S. Like john bolton who want to have on what. Without a doubt this is this is intentional to create this Pressure Cooker to try to see if if the regime in iran of into iran will do acts like this that are dangerous and risky and provocative and they are thats thats intentional to try to find a predicate to launch military strikes we have to remember here in washington theres not a lot of support in fact theres very minimal support for military action just last week the house of representatives passed leg which on a bipartisan basis requiring specific authorization by the president to go to war with iran so the temperature here towards war is very very cold but that means that there have to be other avenues and so the administration they see this is a win win for them iran behaving badly maximum pressure still on and hopefully from their perspective getting allies like britain who wanted to stay in the nuclear deal to change their attitude towards iran and get more bellicose all right lets take a closer look now at why the strait of hormuz is so important its the only sea passage linking the gulf spigot on produces to the rest of the world 17000000000 barrels of oil flow through this waterway every day thats a 5th of the well supply its only 33 kilometers wide and its now rests at its narrowest point and 3 if the brakes are temporarily holding shipping in the strait of hormuz this is a vital International Shipping route how can freedom of navigation be maintained now. Very difficult as i said before the iranians are not working in a conventional space of form of from a maritime point of view theyre not using merit and conventional maritime power so by just putting and i think its important 1st step that the United States already suggested i think britain will be on board as well is creating a multilateral Maritime Mission in the region to to basically create a deterrent regime against the r. G. C. As unconventional as symmetric methods and strategies in place but that on its own as i said is not going to be enough because you know if you use if you look at what how the iranians operate look using smaller skiffs smaller boats smaller vessels to harass a much bigger. Tankers and then looking at the limited number of capacity that the us britain and also the g. C. C. States have in terms of naval capacity and we need more than just having warships in the regions to build that the terrorist regime up i think in order to enforce certain red lines we need to have people on board the ships and i think you know vessel protection teams might be a way moving forward they could be contractors they could be armed personnel in uniform but thats the only way you can create a deterrence by denial regime because by just posturing and putting a few warships in place thats not going to stop the g. C. From doing what they have been doing over the last 2 months yeah i must have a question in tehran what is the overall iranian strategy here on the one hand you have foreign minister zarif was in new york talking diplomacy and on the other hand you have the revolutionary guards making all these moves in the strait of hormuz what is iran trying to achieve what is the message here. Or 1st and foremost this is a wrong understanding of the situation this is not the i. R. G. C. And remember they just say that spin fishing boat from the private sector filing a complaint to the state run shipping and Maritime Organization the judiciary the court has issued a ruling this is the state that standing behind this is stands and ill explain it why but before that as you just mentioned mr zarif he just a few minutes ago he posted it to eat where he asked the british to stop their aid and help and assistance to the United States economic terrorism against iran if they want to see their you know if they dont want to see any similar events in future because the point here is that iranians have shifted their strategy since a couple of months ago iranians waited for talks busy and they had talks for decades then they waited for the merits of the nuclear deal and they show tolerance that they call strategic tolerance but they came to realize that they are just in compliance with the nuclear deal that was supposed to be a win win game now it has become a win lose game so theyll rush if that strategy to show that the time and the air of heat and ron is gone that its not just in the military field but in Political Economic and it is right at the rio going on eof at a time when when iran was was it seems that gaining allies with the with the germans and the french who were trying to find a way to 2nd vent the u. S. Sanctions do these moves really pay off. They have never ever done anything theyve just been expressing Political Support for the nuclear deal but as a mother effective done nothing in support of economic moves to coppered with iran despite all their 11 promises of cooperation after the nuclear deal was abrogated by the United States and thats a violation of the nuclear deal by the way tehran rest assured that if it doesnt change this balance the situation with continue as such i mean similar to the status quo and it would be forced on their pressures to comply with the nuclear deal it is sending a message to the europeans that if the nuclear deal is valuable they should do something and make the cost pay the cost to keep it alive otherwise they may not pressure to iran and expect iran to do nothing and endure the pressures in exchange for not telling the royal is sending this great message to the europeans ok joel rubin a your response to what missile a question has just said on the iranian strategy is iran being counterintuitive here. Well its hard to see what alternatives the iranians believe they have but they do have alternatives and. Attacking the europeans as the foreign minister just is not the right approach if you want to build alliances against the american policy theyre actually pushing the europeans towards the american policy which i think is a wrong headed policy i see our policy right now is driving this conversation in this direction and there are no good military solutions the this idea that somehow ships and planes and drones are going to resolve the long simmering tensions that we have with iran related to its Nuclear Program related to its regional activities thats just a fantasy we need hard headed diplomacy we need to be engaging but for iran to undermine its european allies right now this is not going to help advance its cause right but the iranians are saying that for any talks with the u. S. To happen because a Top Administration of course has said that he wants to negotiate renegotiate the nuclear deal with no preconditions but the iranians say that for for that to happen that the sanctions need to be lifted some sanctions needs to be lifted do you see the administration giving up giving away or you know some of these sanctions at some point. Well i think the trumpet ministration should go back right now into the nuclear deal and get to a next wave of Nuclear Negotiation so could there be improvement yes will there be will it help ministration do it there are no signals that they want to there have been some tiny signals though and thats for example senator rand paul a republican ally of the president did speak with the foreign minister and who knows where theyve come out on this but we need to find paths to get into a discussion this president has said he wants to talk i dont believe its fully genuine that said maybe the iranians should try it but were in a space right now where the United States the same is that we have an active in violation of the nuclear deal they are causing this situation but this situation as were watching it is leading us into a direct military conflict that really is not going to have any winners and craig in london where does this leave the europeans especially france and germany who have been trying to keep the j. C. Peel away alive theyve expressed solidarity with the u. K. In the states a sense that ends what happens now as far as a european 2nd set a good question is i mean we all agree i think that maximum pressure lead to maximum resistance and thats not going to go anywhere and the problem is that weve exploited all other means of diplomatic engagement and i think the europeans realize that and the reason the iranians are behaving the way that they are behaving is because they feel like theyre with the back against the wall they have nothing to lose anymore because you know theyre living on the maximum sanctions it is hurting them its for them they consider it an act of war and terrorism as theyve set publicly so what can the europeans do in order to selvage that deal is basically allowing the benefits that were promised to the iranians to actually trickle down and and get to the people of iran that hasnt happened so far the in this. Index. In the decks that they were trying to set up. This kind of mechanism to allow for funds to come in bypassing the sanctions regime by the americans by passing dollar sanctions hasnt really worked so far it is a concept that nobody knows how it whether and to what extent it is actionable considering that companies in europe will have to faced with the question if they do business with iran they cannot do business in dollar markets particular knighted states and they know that there is very little in terms of incentive in doing business in iran because businesses there will be relatively limited and at the same time they might lose out on a lot more lucrative contracts in the United States so that in itself hasnt worked out this meccan i dont see whether there this mechanism can actually get of the ground and by just talking and not delivering they havent given the iranians a lifeline and i think to run for the most but as given up the hope that there is something coming out of europe from the eve 3 that might be actionable all right must have a question. Andrea says that tehran has given up hope so how far they willing to take on this will iran go as far as closing up the strait of hormuz well 1st and foremost what would a what what were of people in london thinking when they seized the iranian supertanker at the request of the United States what did the expect iran to do did they expect that iran would sit i believe and do nothing would of course iranians tolerate it that for our few days and there was a good hope that the u. K. Could reverse the whole situation and course of actions on thursday through courts ruling by the Gibraltar Court released the uranium tanker and that would be escalate the situation now the u. K. Seems to be very much worried about post brics it economic problems that it would have saw it needs the United States march right and they are dealing with this it with the u. S. Thats run by the president. So they are i mean President Trump and they are treating the right now german hunt is approaching to iran with an arrogant language are posing very serious threats to tehran that they would show a robust response that is not going to work it would backfire if any would you know i create the situation let me give joe robotically washington let me let me give you the final sentence yes and go on final sentence of the last sentence is whats wrong with the language of respect if the u. K. Shows Good Intention releases the iranian supertanker and shows that its willing for diplomacy i believe then iranians would try to have a positive look at the situation of this stand arrow tanker joel rubin in washington you have the last word careful calculations right now by the british authorities at the same time the u. S. Defense department has confirmed that its deploying u. S. Forces in saudi arabia to provide an additional deterrent they say to to the threat in the region you know does this deployment not fuel risking not fuel the risk of a full scale conflict. Well its all heading in the wrong direction and the signals of sending military forces to the region is completely counter to the idea that were going to increase diplomacy these arent forces that are going to lead to a Ground Invasion its a small number less than a 1000 the danger here is that Something Big is going to happen it was Something Big happens that mobilizes the forces in a bigger way and then we have a real major conflict and theyre running as they have other cards to play they have the Nuclear Program its restart even more aggressively in the u. S. We have other cards to play the president believes that he can use our military in ways that he has publicly stated would be overwhelming and so this is a danger moment and this is where the europeans should be stepping in more aggressively diplomatically rather than creating more tensions and more dynamics on the shipping lanes i will leave it there gentlemen thank you very much for a very interesting discussion. Andreas creek and jill valving thank you very much and thank you as well for watching you can always watch this program again any time by visiting our website at aljazeera dot com for further discussion go to our Facebook Page thats facebook dot com for slash insights joey you can of course also join the conversation on twitter handle is that a. J. Inside story from the fully back to one whole team thank you for watching life and. I. Behind the scenes of one of mexicos most. 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Tens of thousands of prodemocracy demonstrators a back on the streets of hong kong to keep up pressure on the government. And the skate park giving syrian children the chance to dream of a limp dick oh. Thanks. But 1st britain insists its oil tanker that the seas by iran lives in amman the territorial waters and is called for the vessel to be released in a letter to the Un Security Council a man has also to run to let a tank a go it comes after the British Government summoned tear on stop diplomats in london on friday a cargo ship was making its way through the strait of hormuz heading to saudi arabia when it was surrounded by 4 iranian boats and a helicopter tehran says the tanker was violating maritime rules. We will go to tear on the door sir just a moment though 1st lets go to nadine barber who is covering the story from london and the dean the fact that the british are now saying that this tanker was in ammans territorial waters makes a huge difference what is the significance of that. Well the 6 significance martin is that theyre saying this was clearly an illegal ads the line 1st came from penny morton britains defense minister on saturday it was taken up by jeremy hunt the foreign secretary later that day and now as youve said britain has officially written to the Un Security Council and in the letter it says the ship was exercising the lawful right of transit passage in an International Straight as provided for under International Law and it goes on to say that International Law requires that the right of transit passage shall not be impeded and therefore the iranian action constitutes illegal interference why does this matter well on saturday demerged from tehran that the of thirtys were portraying this as a tit for tat action which allegation for the seizure 2 weeks before by britain of an iranian vessel in gibraltar which britain accused of breaking ease sanctions on oil going to syria whatever the truth of that britain is now pushing back and saying that iran had no right to seize this vessel on friday they say their response will be rogue considered but robust jeremy hunt spoke to his counterparts and serif on the phone on saturday said he was extremely disappointed but its possible now that the pressure could be runts up further in the coming days and dead do we have any idea any indication as to what that robust but measured response could be well martin we are hearing from at least one u. K. News paper on sunday that the government is considering reapplying e. U. And United Nations sanctions on iran which were lifted in 2016 after the socalled nuclear deal with iran the j c p a way which has been under so much pressure. Jeremy hunt will be speaking to Parliament Outlining his response but weve also seen 2 at least meetings of the emergency Cabinet Meeting cobra over the weekend theres also a lot of warnings going out from former military officials to whoever the next Prime Minister is likely to be Boris Johnson that they will have to start taking this dossier a lot more seriously some are accusing both mr johnson and jeremy hunt the foreign secretary of taking their eye off the ball and in quote lots allowing this to happen in the gulf because they were too. They were too busy with the tory the conservative Party Leadership race that may or may not be the case but there is a lot of pressure on the government to show that it is taking action. Live in london thank you very much for that now lets get a dos or. Correspondent whos in the iranian capital tehran and 1st of all they have been comments coming from a senior iranian. Which established beyond doubt it would appear that this is indeed action taken by iran. Reciprocal action if you like in response to the seizure of that iranian tanker off the course of gibraltar and july the 4th. Well its certainly not a coincidence that officially the government has not said that that is why this act was carried out on friday in the strait of hormuz what weve heard from the speaker of Parliament Ali larijani when he was asked a question by reporters in the Parliament Earlier on sunday and you responded that basically the british committed piracy and the revolutionary guards responded just one sentence but it sums up exactly how many feel here about what has to transpired between the 2 countries over the past few weeks the iranians feel that this seizure of the grace one tanker on july 4th was unjustified and you legally all levels of government including the Supreme Leader himself has spoken about it saying that it is and acts of maritime piracy and theyre demanding the release of that tanker which was carrying 2000000. 00 barrels of Iranian Crude Oil the iranians say that this nation was not syria therefore the seizure by the british navy is illegal we also heard from officials from almost on province this morning who have this tanker inbound there are a horse with a 23 crew members the official there says that they are carrying out what they call a technical investigation because they believe that this tanker was without a transponder signal for 8 hours in the strait of hormuz and they believe that this could have caused some very serious accidents with other vessels because this british ship was not had its did not have its transponder on so they couldnt communicate with them and this is why theyve seized it they say that they will continue their investigation in the coming days as well and we learn the most senior diplomats in the u. K. The show as a defense was summoned to the phone and Commonwealth Office and the show has been letting us know a little bit as to what went on in that meeting. Yes certainly hes tweeted this morning saying that the u. K. Government should contain those Political Forces who want to escalate tensions between iran and the cake beyond the issue of ships this is quite dangerous and unwise at a sensitive time in the region iran however is firm and ready for different scenarios this is the general feeling that the revolutionary guards to control of a situation that could have easily gotten out of hand in the strait of hormuz on friday and the Media Relations department of the revolutionary guards released the dramatic video that weve seen over the past 24 hours about how this mission was carried out the rain is believed that it is their duty to protect these waters in the revolutionary guard has said that the strait of hormuz is there is to protect them they will do everything they can to make sure that they passage of ships that go through this very busy passageway is secure and this is an example of what theyve done on friday despite the criticism that its stronger from the British Governments. Live in the iranian capital tehran thank you. Now at least 8 people have been killed in 2 separate attacks in a city in northwest some cocky 2 Police Officers was shot dead in the 1st attack at a checkpoint in dead. 6 other people including civilians died in the blast at the entrance to a hospital where the injured were being taken to has the latest from the pakistan capitalism about. A deadly attack on a police force. Claimed the life of 2 policemen. A number of other people the wounded were being rushed to the hospital by the. Bomber struck outside the main hospital where the rig damaged were being brought. To the number of. People are wounded in this attack and therefore dead. Tactic in place less than grant you for our. Election and the tribal areas that have been merged into the. Province that they could. Begin responsibility for that attack. Right lets go live now to hong kong where protesters a gathering again its another mass rally as they continue to put pressure on the government there demanding the official withdrawal of the planned extradition or as well as an independent inquiry into the handling of weeks of demonstrations police banned protests as for marching all the way to the government headquarters citing security concerns rob mcbride is our correspondent there in hong kong lets go live to him or are they the team. Thats right yes the march has started its a very familiar scene here on the streets of hong kong another sunday afternoon sweltering temperatures and thousands out on the streets as you mentioned there still demanding the complete withdrawal of this controversial extradition bill now the march has just started from Victoria Park is the traditional place that marches start from about a block or so from here there are literally tens of thousands of people on the street what makes this march different is the fact that the police are going to try and stop the march in a place called one choice halfway between here and central which is where the marches wanted to get to down joining me here is a well known protest leader just to warm just what do you make about this decision by the police to try to stop this more to one side of the reason us and reasonable suppression from coal is forced to stop other protest or central a phone call that we as you know that for the past of what we hope that you will show i would request us the government headquarters but when the rally stop at watch high we can express i would have to terminated a bill delivered to our voice to government you have tens of thousands of people here on the streets what is going to happen when police try to stop people from much unnecessary and Excessive Force might be used by police soon within todays protests when we experience pepper spray and tear gas or Police Brutality we urge you to. Around the world keep guys in a hot car and let the force be used by the protest we hope sure persis on pisco and nonviolence way however governments do. Aipac spec 100000 people who show our anger and discontent government again this is another weekend of protests they seem to go on and on are you getting the sense that people are getting tired of this theres a frustration that support is drifting away i am tired and really hope to take a rest but it is time for it is time for us to continue and now is the summer 2 of this contest so sure thank you very much indeed well martin at the marches have stopped at the front of the march is actually just about 100 meters or so and there are still literally thousands of protestors in Victoria Park waiting to start the march what typically happens here is it could be a couple of a