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Government to also runs but they alone china alone this in charge of hong kong and the situation is home to noncon as part of chinas internal affairs whats happening right now is the protesters are carrying on pushing down the street actually pushing back the riot police. And then to the Police Station house member being moved around we go 10 minutes to back to you now all right thanks for that area certainly a very fluid situation there on the streets of hong kong we hope youll stay safe for us also ahead on calling for change hundreds turn out in serious family problems to stand up against russian airstrikes. American dorian weakens after battering the u. S. East coast and causing destruction across the bahamas. Hello again its good to have you back well we have been watching our typhoon lingling make its way towards the north you can see it on the satellite image there pushing up through the rico islands its going to be moving quite quickly we could be seeing some storm surge across eastern china as well were also going to be watching for the possible development as we go from saturday into sunday they have a new system just to the east of taiwan now going to sing some very heavy rain in that area as well but notice the circulation if you can see it here on the edge of our map with the circulation there pushing through the rico islands we do think its going to be a much weaker system but it could be tracking in a very similar path as typhoon lingling for the rest of china though it is going to be mostly dry out here towards east shanghai plenty of sun few at 31. 00 degrees here on sunday and down towards hong kong it is going to be a sunny day at 33. 00 degrees there well we have seen credible amounts of rain across parts of western india over the last few days particularly here towards mumbai more heavy rain is coming in across central india as we go towards saturday as well up towards the north though along the highlands were going to be seeing kevin do at about 26. 00 degrees there with rain in your forecast new delhi at 33. 00 but down here towards the south colombo is going to be mostly cloudy and staying about 30 degrees there with tonight a partly cloudy day for you at 36. 00 degrees. Is a dialogue let you decide not to have. It take is really human survival everyone has a voice that must start with our community because of course this is a debate and its a heated one this itll be asia and literally be able to look at each and ideally join the global conversation with people i think if only they knew what is happening to. They will be with us and they will be outraged on out is iraq. Again youre watching edge there are mind of our top stories this hour Robert Mugabe the former president of the bar has died at the age of 94 for health in a singapore hospital gabi had been leader of zimbabwe for nearly 4 decades before being deposed in a military coup in 2017. Protesters are setting fire to make shift barricades on the streets of Hong Kong Police officers have fired tear gas and rubber bullets at demonstrators who were surrounding a Police Station. Where the british opposition says it will continue to reject the Prime Ministers call for a snap election until he is asked the European Union to delay brags that Boris Johnson was in scotland where he announced a 200 1000000. 00 pound. 1000000 pound boost for farmers there a bill requiring johnson to ask the e. U. To delay brags of preventing a no deal will likely become law early next week he was asked if hed choose to resign instead. That is not a hypothesis i am willing to contemplate i want us to get this thing done they dont want to have an election they want to move this thing forward far and we will get a deal on october the 17th 18th and then well come out of the e. U. Has more from london friday the opposition parties have been talking about what to do about Boris Johnsons aim to try to call or snap general election on october the 15th hes expected to do that for a 2nd time early next week if the delay bill the legislation going through the house of lords to force him to seek an extension and to ward off a no deal if that does actually wrap up on friday its pretty certain that Boris Johnson will try again to trigger a snap general election and now the opposition is saying that they wont grant him his wish they want to make sure that theres no way that britain can be taken out of the e. U. Without a deal on october the 31st they want to guarantee the either he goes to brussels and seeks an extension because theres still talk among the opposition that they dont trust him and that he could simply try to ignore that legislation or they want to force him to resign which under the law would see perhaps a National Union National Unity government formed Boris Johnson is still insisting that he will get it on time and that he wont be resigning hes in the last few hours said that he hopes to get a deal at the e. U. Summit on october the 17th but given the fact that the negotiations between britain and the e. U. Are thought to be basically at a standstill its hard to see how thats going to happen. Thousands of protesters have turned down to Northern Syria to stand against russian airstrikes more than 500 people have been killed in the province over the last 4 months russian backed Syrian Forces have been trying to capture the countrys last rebel held stronghold since the offensive began air raids and fighting of displaced half a 1000000 people protesters have also condemned the International Community silence over the violence. Has more from turkey a province on the syrian border. For the 2nd week in a row protests have been held in Northern Syria namely in the areas or the last remaining enclaves held by the rebels those opposed to the regime of bashar assad these protests they are being significantly smaller than last fridays one continue to be just as loud and clear in their message calling for International Intervention to put an end to the continued targeting of civilian areas namely in italy province as well as the countryside of aleppo when the reason why these protests have been taking place is that since the sochi agreement that was made several months ago between russia and turkey and obviously with raney an agreement some sort of the escalation zone would be established despite agreements up until the end of august more than a 1000 civilians have been killed by the russians as well as by the regime of bashar assad so the Syrian People calling on the charts as well as International Community and those who have been behind these agreements to find some sort of way to put an end to it this coincides with the increase rhetoric by certain sections of the turkish political spectrum that has been quite frankly anti syrian refugee in its nature has been calling for some sort of a solution to the more than 2000000 possibly even 3000000 refugees in syria for these protests albeit not massive a number but the fact that it is the 2nd week running is significant and will have a lot of people monitoring to see whats will develop in the coming days thousands of algerians taking to the streets to demand an end to the current regime algeria has been without an elected president since demonstrators forced former president bill to flee cut to resign and i demonstrators want to completely change it is the 29th straight week of protests in the algerian capital. Sudan has its 1st female foreign minister a small adult is among 4 women a clued in the cabinet that is separate from the Sovereign Council that will lead the country until elections within 3 years morgan reports now from the capital khartoum. After days of deliberation by the countrys Prime Minister the names of members for sudans 1st cabinet of ministers appointed since the ousting of longtime president s ahmed bashir were announced and the value that is that if you know us and knew that you know. Someone. We start today a new face for a country of free manage well it will pave the way for us to build a sudan that we are all proud of the 1st priority of the Transitional Government will be ending conflict and this decree confirms the appointment of ministers for the transitional period sort of through the cabinet made up of 20 members include sudans 1st female foreign minister along with 3 other female ministers. The Prime Minister said it was a recognition for the role of women in the revolution which started in december with antigovernment protests and led to the overthrow of bashir by the military april he also said that 2 seats in the cabinets will be filled in the coming days with further consultations needed to ensure representation of every region in the country the cabinet and bill by sudans Prime Minister will ask for the transitional agreement implemented the vision of the protesters those include justice and accountability for the alleged crimes committed by for sure the government since it came to power in 1989 theyre also calling for peace in the conflict zones in the country but implementing these changes may come with some challenges. Sudans revolutionary front a coalition of armed groups and a part of the forces of freedom and change coalition that signed the power sharing agreement in august had previously expressed reservations over the agreement it says the deal signed it needs to address the core issues of the conflicts and the impacts of war but i do know neither here nor here to go we need refugees to be able to return home and we need them to be compensated we want to rebuild sudan and restructure its economy and the issue of bringing pace is a long one and will take effect from all the countries including the International Community. And hours before the announcement protesters took to the streets once again. Hundreds demonstrated in front of the countrys High Judiciary Court urging on an independent judiciary during the transitional period to ensure their demands during the 8 month protests are not forgotten little are not infallible about youre part of it was you know today we came out demanding an independent judiciary to represent us and were anyone who turns to that can get their rights not like the former regime where your rights were oppressed and the judicial system was bribed and politicized. Here. Today were demanding justice for those whove been killed weve got in the civilian government some people gave their lives for it to happen that shouldnt have been the cause so those who are responsible for crimes must be trite thats what i want from the Transitional Government. The government says its working to build a new future after 30 years of rule under the former regime and present sudan in a new light protesters are not about to forget what it took to bring about that change people morgan to 0 or to. A large areas in south africa are being offered free flights home thats after the violent anti immigrant immigrant riots in johannesburg this week they targeted and burned several foreign owned businesses protests then took place in nigeria and zambia against the attacks in south africa tens of thousands of nigerians live in south africa. American during his battering the east coast the United States off to causing destruction across the bahamas at least 4 people have been killed in the United States and 200000 homes are without power the storms now a category one hurricane but coastal areas of North Carolina and virginia remain on alert as it moves northeast but far the biggest impact though has been in the bahamas where at least 30 people are confirmed dead the bahamian Prime Minister has called the devastation a historic tragedy these are satellite images taken before and after dorian made landfall and they give you an idea of the scale of the destruction in the island nation in the home of the homes on the worst hit on. Ground by houma are either destroyed or severely damaged my want to pull out has more on this from treasure key in the abaco islands in the bahamas. Were on treasure here on the island of abaco which is one of the northernmost of the bahamas and certainly one of the worst hit areas by Hurricane Dorian again this was a category 5 hurricane wind gust up work of 330 Kilometers Per Hour and it took 36 hours for that storm to make it across abaco make it across grand bahama i want to give you a sense of where we are right now were sitting right on the tarmac of it airstrip that was just cleared only a few days ago on wednesday so airplanes are just now starting to arrive through to evacuate people off of this island we visited mark harbor which is just about an hour east of here and its absolute devastation its about as bad as hurricane damage yet but estimated upwards of 13000. 00 homes that were completely destroyed so what were seeing here if you behind me these are rescue teams that have just arrived on the island of treasury there are there are people behind those rescue teams that are waiting for their turn many of them flood here on the tarmac last night there waiting for their turn for their opportunity to get a flight and. Even though there are concerns that there will be sort of physical or tortoises of medicine as well as sort of this of rather the milling priority right eloquent for search and rescue for the people that are still accounted for the main priority is just getting the hundreds of people off of this island many of them desperate to get out the island. Of colombia peru and ecuador to coordinate efforts to stop the Record Number of fires in the amazon rainforest brazilian president jailed both joined by Video Conference and many of blame his policies for the problem both are not of deployed 44000 troops to help but turn down funding from g 7 leaders saying it would turn brazil into a colony. The u. S. Economy added 130000. 00 jobs last month thats fewer than expected experts say it may be a sign the president on trumps trade war with china is to blame alan fisher has more from washington. Its a growing company one of the fastest in its state one of the fastest in the country but with most of the production centered in china everything has taken a hit because of Donald Trumps trade war thats put a hold on investment and on hiring were confident that we can stay in business you will do ok but its definitely going to affect how we do business how profitable we are how fast we can grow how much we can provide the product that our customers want at the price that they like it donald trump impose another round of tide of some 300000000000. 00 worth of chinese goods at the start of this month that adds to the title of that were brought in last year the president believes the deal with china is close but he said that before they had the worst year in over 50 you know they had a a year that was a disaster for them millions of jobs have been lost their supply chain has been destroyed or soon to be destroyed i dont think they can continue onward like that. One california suffered maker supports the president hes been losing out to cheaper chinese boards im a proponent for as high as possible because then it becomes competitive for me. The new jobs figure doesnt fully measure the impact of the trade war but it comes as an official report reveals the u. S. Created half a 1000000 fewer jobs in the past 18 months than previously reported dont trump see short term pain for long term gain believing hes going to kick start American Manufacturing unlikely says stephen session we would love to be able to manufacture domestically but its literally not possible for us to make our shoes domestically in the same way that its literally not possible for to find a domestic version of the devices you and i or is it the speaker peepers in our cell phones the straw. Just doesnt exist to allow us to act or donald trump says trade wars are quick and easy too when he has to make that true if you want to take a Strong Economy into the 2020 president ial election alan fischer aljazeera washington. This is 0 these are the top stories the former president of zimbabwe Robert Mugabe has died at the age of 95 hed been in poor health and singapore hospital gabi led the country for 37 years before you moved in a military coup in 2017 i dont want to answer has more from johannesburg people praised him for trying to roll out health care to poor blacks involvements he was a teacher and when he came into power in 1980 really tried to make sure as many black people as possible got a good education which is why some people in africa still say zimbabwe is where the highest literacy rates on the continent and hes also credited for taking that the white minority and giving it to blacks but then his critics Say Something went wrong the land that was taken a lot of it is a list of gone to senior ruling official parties some of his friends some of his family and children its also alleged that he presided over decades of corruption in states stretches and some people also say he was behind a lot of the alleged abductions and alleged human rights abuses and of course the biggest thing is that a lot of people blame him for ruining what was once a prosperous economy for the british opposition says it will continue to reject the Prime Ministers call for a snap election until years after the European Union to delay briggss Boris Johnson was in scotland where he had announced a 200000000 pound boost for farmers there ago were quiet johnson to ask the e. U. To delay breaks in preventing a no deal will likely become more early next week he was asked if he would choose to resign instead. That is not a hypothesis i am willing to go to play i want us to get this thing done they dont want to have an election they dont want to move this thing forward forward we will get the deal of october the 17th 18th and they will come out of the e. U. Police officers in hong kong have fired tear gas and rubber bullets at demonstrators who had been surrounding a Police Station earlier in the protesters were gathered in a train station nearby forcing its closure theyre demanding the release of Security Camera footage of a a violent confrontation which took place between police and demonstrators last weekend of his work used of using exists Excessive Force in that and those are the headlines the stream is next. The cost of a priceless resource on the threat the amazon rain forest is a blaze in its links to brazil strive for the production of the best ways global ambitions which have left investors since a big loss. On aljazeera. I am finding out and i really could be here in the stream today roasted into these years of west palm has led to renewed calls for the independent state of the area remain part of indonesia we want to hear your questions and thoughts on this tweet them to us or comment on our live you tube job. I park im the president of the Harvard Asian American Alumni Alliance and you are in the stream. On the 1st day in tunisia partially lifted into that blackout in the countrys east and most region of west the restriction was imposed after some of the most serious civil rest rest in. Her. Protests began a maid or gustav to the spread of a video showing indonesians security forces. And students monkeys demonstrations have now turned into renewed calls for an independent state protestors have marched with the morning star 5 a symbol of the west Papuan Independence Movement out across the west Regional Government buildings have been set on fire around 6000 police and military reinforcements have been sent. This is said at least 6 demonstrators and one soldier were killed in poplar province but the government denies the incident took place so today we want to look into whats happening now and west papuan and what should be done to resolve tensions between the region and the indonesian government well here pop one perspectives in a bit but. 1st lets go to ottawa where were joined by after the cards are jelani indonesias ambassador to canada welcome. Im going to start with because the west is not in the news very often i want to a lot of International Audience where it is im going to show the map in the great khali you will see the area thats known as the west papuan region the all in geria is the rest of it. Youll notice that sort of by is. The place where the regional instant of the monkey name calling happened and then the areas that we have to areas where there have been big protests also areas where theyve been limited amount of connectivity with peoples mobile phones and the internet and thats something to go 1st of all to your president this is him about 2 weeks ago on what was happening in the west papuan region having this says you got a lot. Thank god the situation is back to normal again and an apology has been issued this shows the greatness of our hearts that stand united together and the Mutual Respect and value we have for each other as fellow countrymen and as. So as you again may already have ordered the police chief to take legal action against racial and ethnic discrimination in a strict manner and please take note of this i will also invite leaders from and west papuan traditional Leaders Community leaders and religious leaders to come to the president ial palace to talk about the acceleration of welfare and. Ambassador present this song thank god the situation is back to normal again that was 2 weeks ago maybe he was being a little bit too optimistic how would you describe the situation today you know from the information that we got some of the ground conditions. But i know its not perfect yet. I think we are very optimistic the country starve the situation and the security. Optimistic but i want to bring this in this tweeted from virginia really sharing something that came out of the u. N. This from the u. N. Human rights chief michel battle that were seeing an outpouring of popular discontent and mass protests or their suppression with the firm hand of the state listing indonesias popular province among regions where dialogue is needed to prevent rest how did it get to this point ambassador. Read know about the situation in poor taste not is not perfect yet as of to be but as im telling you now. Of course there are some. We need to do we need to restart that and the 2nd thing is a dialogue i think it is clear from the put a statement made by our prasad that we are willing to go out with other Community Leaders with local leaders so it sounds a strong message that indonesian government is very willing to listen all the aspiration and of the wishes of the puppet people one of the things that you do is your job is to explain into these are to the rest of the world real still are very curious about how do we get to the situation where police according west papuans monkeys west papuans are protesting and you in a situation where you need to have dialogue with your own citizens im still not clear how that started from your perspective ambassador there is one thing that we must be bearing in mind you know what happened wed never gone beyond what happened. As such racial slur is unacceptable and. The statement meet would happen in just not only hurt or hurt the feeling of the populace but the whole indonesian as a one nation. To some extent it is indeed it is indeed. An expression that. We will be against our principle as you say and. Theres clearly grievances there and i wanted to share this video youll just see scenes this is from the twitter account free. Incredible scenes in jayapura west as the indonesian flag was torn down and the west pop one flag the morning star is to raise thousands of people can be seen below chanting for freedom so easy those scenes right there that i want to switch over here to where someone with that handle morningstar rates and they say should australia rule hong kong because they had the same colonial master popy. And indonesia have nothing in common except the same colonial masters its racism to support this nonsense and that is referencing the idea of the question should remain part of indonesia clearly there are grievances here clearly there are people who are upset what would you say to people who say there needs to be a referendum on independence. One thing that we need to remember. I seem stupid the beginning is always the immense part of indonesia. And the fact that the popular as a part of a lot of the ability it is peace on International Law it is justified by International Law there is a principle at the posting to this but a principle so you are starts a statement as a. Hong kong and are ruled by the sea mustnt it is just as twisting a statement. Once against the op why so are the ability is it justified by International Law this is the 1st thing the 2nd thing is all the south determination has been internally and externally exercise. A master abdul could do it johnny thank you so much for joining us on the string today we appreciate your time thank you thank you and we want to move on to share more perspectives on west pop west so we are joined by many when the chairman of the United Liberation movement the west papa he joins us from oxford in the u. K. And job jakarta indonesia yet the way he executive director of the heat institute a group that campaigns for religious freedom and a Melbourne Australia a victim or a journalist based in a west palm thank you very much for joining us so eager to get in our community in this because we got a couple of video comments from people and i want to share just one of them giving an insight into some of the grievances that people are sharing and we tried to ask the ambassador there what led to this we didnt quite get that answer so benny im going to share this from leeds gay shes a ph d. Candidate at Murdoch University and here are the grievances from her perspective. Toward. An isolated incident this is something that has occurred for decades students studying but one student studying outside of. Youve always heard stories about how theyre called monkeys. Of course also has impacted. Also have been called. Who have been called monkeys or nuclear. Before. This one incident where an appeal was actually thrown into the field so betty you can hear some of the hurt in her voice there commute describe for us what its like to be in indonesia. 588 years weve been under suppressed by indonesia illegal occupation thats ambassador to say that. Its part of indonesia but not west proper never part of indonesia weve been separate weve been separate we had different graphically culturally linguistically we had never been part of indonesia thats why they called us a monkey from the beginning when since theyre. Going to occupied our country 96 to treat since then blasted beginning 500000 men a woman has been killed up to now so in the news ambassador he claimed that was popular part of indonesia never in the west but was never a part of indonesia we 20 years we separate indonesia got independent 945 west but when they were part of indonesia well call it Dutch New Guinea thats why dutch gave a independent 90616263 indonesia illegally occupied thats why thats the beginning of the massacre up to now so indonesia claim over west palm is illegal so they say cleaning is continuing rape torture imprisonment people just coming out and wrists read peacefully we demand our right to selfdetermination 9069 indonesia and we are called up to pretoria we call actually doing choice that is why we dumped or claimed that you know new youll agree men 66. August 96 somebody were number one bringing the International Committee out today with a story that as you have said can spot for many many decades you any please jump in here because what that hes saying is that we dont even belong to. Do you have no claim to have for us this is the root of the question. Here i. If you want to look at the roots of these are what i think is simplifying the issues just to aid and issues Human Rights Violations there are many structural issues that have been happening in part one and that has led to the sense factions and grievances that many have feeling to this day i think. The process of creation process is not yet the process is not finished yet and there are many things that the Central Government should have done better to integrate the pup once more into the society but i would i dont understand i am saying so i is the answer you get teaching me a lot of things today as well i dont understand what integration means in the context of indonesia and the west papuan region can you give us an example yes but what ben you mentioned before about the york. 69 basically that gave grant it only shows. That the police part of the leisure and. Not us was a large part of indonesia you are wrong it is recognized by no. Means 9 to 68 by Solution Programme was. Only took the note United Nation on little bit north africa cut again country rejected your claim by the african so he were hearing but then again you have come to me and many this is a perfect example of why there is a dispute internees here right now because were hearing the claim in the celtic lord i was i was just very curious if you could give me one example and getting out quickly about what you meant by integration. Yes. Become a became part of leisure then theres a problem with. Building more of one problem the other problems that thats happening here but its not just because of the way current mishandles about the issue here but its also due to a mission of this well and the issue of lack of prosperity issue of. Not not very good Good Governance there in public what we actually done by the part one themselves so get its a very complex issues and populous a truly has a special autonomy granted to them which is not enjoyed by other problems. Basically the special autonomy grants once great people it is for example are only public ones can one for office in what but also it can also run for office in other provinces even for the highest position if you know if they want to and so we mostly dont know. How many people will be i missed the last. Almost half of the 1000 been killed and it is still autonomy what youre talking about there. Yes. There are government cannot just save their lives while its you know cycle of violence i mean if youre on it absolutely anybody got any i didnt ask you for it is lost forever any im betting ill bet also from polls from ive picked i think tight for a 2nd a little i do want to take a victory see you trying to get in there and i want to bring you in a couple of comments here because there are voices that people online are telling us that were not hearing and that is because government and acted a shutdown data for the most part of Internet Data and so its been hard to get those voices out this is what one person on twitter says he says this means that we are able to verify facts it means there was a chance of more fake news getting out of hand in tunisia handles this all wrong all because they were desperate for control so thats one persons perspective but then news broke just today this from stephen who says intern egypt has partially lifted an internet blackout so we can see that they are in this of course was on data thats whats being reported victor you are a journalist based there and the west papuan region talk to us about what people there felt and what voices were not hearing because of this blackout. I want to talk about. A lot of this but what is. The mis understanding. Which youre not going to know i mean. You know. The internet in which. We. See the. For our experience when the internets down we cannot carry. Any information. This is a problem for us is not only to prepare him but also because we are based in online. So what. People say than to do this i think is very true. So when we. Were in america before. The fall of the intervention. Of the government and rick we want to you know we were working pretty hard to do a little angel. Because you know no more. Media. Publish this story which probably is only some media like us. But its very hard ok to be honest i think its really. Ok not only to be united but also to work. For the news. Let me just move on a little bit i want to show our audience bennys twitter page and the 20 trip profile he calls himself a west Point Independence leader this is really important in the context of this conversation because after this violence. Complaints about discrimination betty youve been asking and pushing for the independence of west papuan region for a very long time does this latest series of protests does that mean that youre closer to independence than ever before. Im confident that this is the time to you know change now because you know a world is finding out wall in watching what happened and what happening because the last 50 years in and he said do not least im honest the International Rescue and International Peace brigade so thats right now world is finding out because. Because indonesia stigmatized my people that monkey i think that sentiment collectively come out peacefully last 2 weeks then what happened indonesia start shooting day i 6 people were killed by Indonesian Military and police that is what happening there is also the Militia Group created by reid and tell himself because we dont all wars in east timor he said whoa crime wanted by United Nation now least are talking personally attacking me and him and this is general so we lets we talk about this situation in response bring the peace only to bring the peace people people always pop what if any many fold and i think our our you talk about in a similar land to his security minister let me just share with our audience one of the most recent things that he said it was a great importance to the state have a look. Grab hold of them to vote for. Your money the Popular Police chief bans demonstrations that will lead to anarchy and individuals or organizations a prohibited from carrying out or spreading separatism or expressing opinions in public and violations that will cause separatism no one saw me talk im going to. Have to look at upward there is no nation in this world that doesnt have an issue with separatism its an average of all there will always be a group in a country that holds sentiments different from the majority of the people it also happens in indonesia and not just here in papua it could be anywhere else that is exactly why we must fight and neutralize any bob war any of the feeling it into these here for an appetite for a referendum what you say there is one. You dont for some so i can feel. But barely babies pain when it talked about the racial slur and i think this is a pain that some not only felt but once but the whole ignitions i mean theres so many supports him sympathy expressed the words well if you know more than im sorry im sorry but. Yeah. Sorry allow me to think i said i had to finish my thought and then you can interject but getting finished ok but die 1st ethnic groups doesnt mean that it cannot live in harmony its just what we need is a political process so i mean. First groups of people from different. Backgrounds can coexist peacefully and i think this is what this is the cause that we need to push for more dialogue more. And eventually better a Common Ground you know and i think the Common Ground for me and me is very clear that we both want the best but the ones we want prosperity for the public ones we want. You know democracy for public ones and i think the way to do that is to list them. And for me the problem now is really no value occupied our country thats killing us thats why you are calling your government calling you want yeah nor the killing just me but id like to know how youre going to quote you know its not just theres not theres a great of a trade after all going to the kennedy document but i think they. Better hope. That perhaps were trying to. Give a pause in the conversation 70 cant get in that like i have so i hear both of your perspectives i want to bring this in this from twitter says in indonesia allowed to vote on their freedom it could in the protests tomorrow but jakarta know is that was popular would immediately vote to have their freedom back so keeping that in mind i want to play a video comment from someone who sent us his start this is a victor is an International Spokesperson the National Committee for west papua and her stake. Was popular is lost on me in the city was pup was still fighting for the write offs of intimidation from all the alleys and indonesia we have been treated like animal discrimination is still going on and we have become a minority in our own learn that is why people of us but we are still continuing still fighting for the right course of the commission saw we did in the militia to bring the case of us puppet bear to the United Nation when it unite the nation for fighting in what does the best solution for the people of this popular and here the daughter of the 4th president of indonesia a. Man what he do you think his legacy had high Approval Ratings in this region do you think that legacy is carrying on and what should happen to make that happen. Well i think what it was before that we should push for more dialogue peaceful dialogue and along with that we should also improve Service Delivery but once one of the problems in power is actually there is this cycle of violence thats happening now its not just done by. Somebody treated like just there but also done by the armed groups peer the Independence Movement there were cases in which a many civilians were killed and also cases of violence between. The and we must now also we must understand also we try to understand. Also need to understand that part of what is very diapers so yet i cannot speak on tribal groups here and they have their own the only any customs and they actually cannot speak and we have selective hearing one of the sudden you have a very yes sorry given us insight into a very complicated situation in Western Papua off and we really appreciate you helping us understand the story a lot better thank you very much nic and i will always stay online at a time stream on twitter t. N. X. A modern and open minded woman who feels ethiopia is poised to develop rapidly aljazeera goes on a journey with the 1st woman appointed to the position of chief justice in ethiopia i knew that this is going to be a difficult assignment. Expect that to be corrected envy wants a change to more of them wanted to be. My ethiopia on aljazeera. As a weapon of war leaves the very deepest scars. Scars so rule that the victims men and women can barely talk about it. 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Open final preparing to battle bianca and reese to a player how her age. He led zimbabwe to independence from whites minority rule and presided over a Success Story in education and health in his early years in power becoming an inspirational figure across africa but Robert Mugabe went on to symbolize economic mismanagement and political turmoil as he stayed in power for nearly 40 years the only leader most zimbabweans had ever known until he was deposed and 2017 has died in singapore at the age of 95. Has more on Robert Mugabes life. Deliberate or who turned into a tyrant the man who destroyed a promising country through his determination to cling on to power. By some but the despised by many. Of the widely admired across africa as a hero who fought colonialism and stood up to the west. 965 and ian smith says white settlers declare independence from britain an event that defined Robert Mugabes life and still holds his country. The black majority resisted races in the cities and out in the countryside where vicious bush will reach 4 years. Robert mugabe a teacher turned activist emerged from prison as an articulate leader of the independent struggle we started the. Country and we have a country they did get their country at lancaster house in london in 1979. And when zimbabwe celebrated independence. The overwhelming winner of elections was in power. And soon showing the bible liberation fighters what hed do to keep it matter bill and in the early eightys the opposition crushed thousands killed in ethnic massacres atrocities that were barely noticed abroad. But there was also much to admire racial reconciliation education and health for millions of zimbabweans although later the economy declined and the invasions of white farms in the year 2000 were turning point this time the world did notice. People said that this was going to happen it was going to turn into a bloodbath turn into another congress maybe this is it were going to have to get out. It was a destructive process but they said he was correcting an old injustice and in many ways still fighting the old colonial power the land is ours we give it to whom we please its not the business of britain you see to tell us who to give land they do not wear that those who are given members of my by my party is relevant to britain. By now opposition was growing despite murder and many many zimbabwe seemed ready to throw mugabe out they had a new hero morgan who said Robert Mugabe is early achievements will always be overshadowed by the years of oppression. Do we put the great liberator or do we put somebody who has betrayed the liberation that the food. I think the little prevail the 2 rivals ended up in government together although mugabe made sure he kept the real power and chunky violator returned to a position where he would eventually die without being is constantly sharing how hypocritical the west is and africa loves that and for that reason and i think he will be judged alternately as being a more important figure in africa than simply this party isnt as part hes a dictator hes a tyrant hes anywhere you want to threaten but its something more than that he says hes the wrong messenger with the right message. By now his wife grace 41 years his junior had emerged as a political player who got be well into his ninetys seem determined to go on and all. Those you know. That the Robert Mugabes still here. But not as strong as he thought in the citys anger boiled over a new generation demanded mugabe go its time for you to resign its time for you to step down. In the end it was the army that pushed him where he the point grace as his successor a former colleague and then leave rival of graces emerson women took over it was more palace couldnt revolution although the joy mirrored that of zimbabwes original revolution 37 years earlier who got the retreated to his mansion bitter to the last we dont deserve. We dont deserve it but please tell me. The real tragedy Robert Mugabe could never bear da da or of his country enjoying a 2nd freedom from his ruinous grip. Nelson chamisa is the leader of the official opposition in zimbabwe the movement for Democratic Change and is joining us live from hard out here we appreciate your time since thank you very much indeed Robert Mugabe had a reputation in the latter part of his role as treating the opposition in zimbabwe brutally how is the opposition going to view his legacy now that hes dead well we you know the latest of mr mugabe there way to ease there is nothing that we can add or subtract to work done is commissions and omissions are clear and. Our position is very clear as an alternative and indeed the incoming government in zimbabwe that we are knowledge their contribution made by mr mugabe to the liberation of our country and also his contribution to the early days when he contributed to education and health but he also acknowledged the reality that there were all so negatives in terms of detainees that people had to go through or not congo is all missions and commissions in government. It seems that Robert Mugabe is still widely held in positive terms by many of his supporters many zimbabweans particularly within the country itself how frustrating is that to the opposition. Well we are not frustrated because mr mugabe had a global footprint he also had an International Presence he had a contribution internationally but what is gratifying to us is the fact that at the end of his reign when he had been. Out of office even voted for change for myself incidentally someone got is one of the few people who did not hide their votes he clearly and those there were tentative it clear then goes. Not even part of them or change and we are excited that there was the end of his reign in the country senses on the need for democracy the need for justice the need for freedom the need for accounting for the past transgressions what you call again is the eyeless involvement in the human rights in humanitarian issues and for that reason we celebrated in fact we have lost of what we have lost their supporter we have lost a citizen and african son. How confident can smart and day zimbabweans be that the country has the correct checks and balances now politically to avoid a situation like the last 2 years of Robert Mugabes rule happening again. Yes we have seen that here we had many twists and turns many gains and pains but more pains particularly on our count of mr mugabe so activities during his reign and we are fighting so hard to make sure that we gate or those are transgressions that resulted in the loss of lives loss of property loss of time loss of opportunity for many zimbabweans most of the zimbabweans are now in that yes on account of missed opportunity or neglected when it is in their country but only someone got there is not helping matters their exit got him some god there was supposed to hear out a new dispensation a new era but we have not seen such in fact we have gone back to the dark days of the past where we are seeing an increase in escalation in human rights abuses in the human heart in crises in the economic mismanagement corruption and or other such crises that we have been trying to get and this is why it is in bucklands looking at mr mccarthy we are drawing a line in the center said this far and no further lest we forget we cant afford to look back in the past and repeat the past in a replica of the past or the past is simply horrible horrifies as weve been covering the story since the news broke of mr mugabes death many people have been saying that he was such a strong driver of the formation of modern day zimbabwe that he created the basis for that and he never lost that vision although the way he delivered the message may have changed do you think that there is a misunderstanding by many other parts of the world of the way that Robert Mugabe was trying to achieve what he set out to achieve. Well me someone got there was a human being is now it is now a part of this economy you could not have been docked perfect because he was not an engineer you made mistakes he had strengths and weaknesses but more importantly as far as we are concerned we threw that in left the nation divided 11 the nation and more disunited he left the nation in difficult seconds and especially in the breakdown of the rule of law the breakdown of governance system and those are the issues we need to correct so mr mugabe is an indicator of what we should do right the fact that he has led to pass on in foreign lands is something that points to the problems that we have in our country we can have our leaders in africa being treated in foreign lands we must be able to fix our politics fix our governance institutions fix our governance systems so that we have big ideas not just big men big institutions not just big is in our personalities that we will be airboat to be proud of ourselves so i totally understand those who think that mr mugabe did not probably do what was supposed to be done but he had good intentions i suppose for his country but all thats it is an african for us to start to focus on the negatives with my