Indian Prime Minister in the end dr modi suggest a meeting of minds all perhaps egos im femi oke a. N. U. In the stream so your thoughts for today show through twitter. Donald trump is making his 1st visit to india as u. S. President but state coffee is not as important as showbiz perhaps hours after arriving in the city of armada bad on monday you know go right into a new cricket stadium joining the range of modi in front of 100000. 00 people heres a taste of what both feet as set. I learn only. Just learned that the. Good that. Religion. America loves. America respects india and america rowers be very loyal. To the people. But the visit has divided opinion on social media a platform that both leaders are expert at navigating hashtags or trying to visit range from the mast a trump trump india visit to india reject trump visit even before trump there was criticism that poor is a lot about what being hidden by war was on the route to the stadium but others in the region say that trump is the 1st us president to deliver such a huge speech in front of so many indian people or member of our Like Community however says the trip is little more than a Public Relations exercise and opposition politicians have also weighed a. Good move in the. American role not imposed by well well i will hear what. I mean is that you sort of the only look what i want on the recent us succumbing to demolish it all years. For more on trans visit were joined from a lot of our pilots were poor and im shes out his ear as india correspondent right here in the studio we have to get out his White House Correspondent as sutton and do a is a cone this wall street journal and everybodys really good to have you elizabeth lets start off you are there in im out of by those instant reactions to what it was like to see President Trump enter a stadium was so many indians in there cheering for him. Well femi it was really quite something not just to see i think there were at least 110000 people in that stadium that is how many people can fit but we have heard even you know large numbers 100 up 2125000 perhaps the biggest crowd to greet President Trump outside of the United States but as much of a spectacle as the crowd was for me it was really something to see the look on President Trump face the sheer happiness on his face before he addressed that crowd because you know this is a president as you mentioned who does love these big stadium events and you know he certainly got that we were here weve been here for the last few days before his arrival and even before he got to the stadium femi he would have he would have been met by billboards every few meters certainly in the city center with has with his face on them so its really i mean there was an actual red carpet at the airport and in every way. And india has really laid out the red carpet for President Trump. Yeah this is definitely i think one of the in your intro there you talked about this being a Public Relations exercise thats exactly what it is because were pretty much expecting theres not going to be a trade deal thats going to be signed this is something that donald trump had hinted that we certainly saw a deal with regard to sort of closing or inking a deal on a 3000000000. 00 in defense but in terms of something broader its not really materializing right so what this comes down to is a lot of pomp and pageantry and crowd size is very important but this is these are crowds that this president has never seen in the United States i mean possibly 3 to 4 times larger so this is a very expensive colorful pre Election Campaign effort for u. S. President donald trump whos trying to win reelection look the one thing that india is really good at delivering is lots of people. And india has delivered a lot of people yes i dont think. We can say the sort of. Sort of its only about symbolism and not about substance and the reason is the in many ways Foreign Policy symbolism doesnt matter the fact is that this is the president of the United States he does not like to travel a lot he has traveled across the world and hes gotten out of his car and gone straight to the stadium where he stood hand in hand with the indian Prime Minister that is sending a Foreign Policy message and the messages i think 1st and foremost to china it shows the importance of india and how the importance of india has risen in u. S. Foreign policy every u. S. President since bill clinton has been to india theres a reason for that right is because indias own weight is being felt more due to the larger point that look we can have sort of you can you can go and do want to go into these visits and get more out of them or get less out of them but i dont think its i dont think that this is confined to the pageantry because the pageantry itself is sending a signal. But i think yeah go ahead. Well i was just going to say that i think well have to wait and see what comes out of those bilateral bilateral meetings tomorrow but there are so many questions being asked certainly by those who arent blatant government supporters why did he travel so far for a 36 hour visit when none of the you know really big sticking points in this relationship trade is the biggest one where theyre not expected to make any progress on that theyre not expected to make any progress on the visas for indians who travel to the United States for their big differences that they have on the pharmaceutical industry so really people are. Wondering if there is going to determine if you are going ok and then i saw your follow so let me quickly jump in look especially you have 3 traditional pillars of the u. S. In your relationship youve got trade economics youve got the strategic and defense ties and then youve got values and democracy theres no question that 2 out of those 3 legs have been weakened in recent years were not getting the trade deal even though overall create volumes of reason were not getting a trade deal in that these trade disputes and its also true that on the Democratic Values side theres been diminishing however youve got to be fair and a college that on the defense side the relationship is actually deep and youre going to see this deal signed for 2600000000. 00 with a force for 4 u. S. Helicopters you have seen india sign a series of these socalled foundational agreements which deepen cooperation between the militaries so what youre seeing really is a relationship in the obama era was kind of more balanced it had these 3 legs in the trump era its become much more about defense and strategic cooperation however the differences are today cooperation has deepened kaminey if i may let me just put in just this little quote from President Trump when he was talking about the arms still that is going to happen with india same as heavily and is having less. As we continue to build our defense cooperation the United States looks forward to providing india was some of the best and most feared military equipment on the planet we make the grade is weapons ever made airplanes missiles rockets ships we make the best and were dealing now with india but this it glutes. Air Defense Systems and armed and unarmed aerial vehicles. He says the case is just going to Say Something exactly thats what im kind of pulling my hair out about right now i mean come on lets not just take everything that spoon fed to us i mean the bottom line is the white house was suggesting trump was suggesting a very big deal is coming its not happening on this trip yes there is and its certainly the counterweight to china is important me just finish my point but lets remember donald trump isnt the only one who flew a very long way for a very big rally back in september we had the reverse we had how the motive we had originally modi in houston why is that important because there are 4000000 of the diaspora here in the United States 80 percent of them did not vote for donald trump last election this time around they like some of the hardline immigration policies highly educated they feel that this is a president who is speaking for the Small Business owners and that is very important to a president who has just come out of an impeachment battle needs every vote he can get in pivotal states and i think we to ignore that is is really a mistake i guess let me just go via a huge. Audience thank you for chipping in had one to proxy as trump attention its all a political stunt by trump to win the indian vote how is that even possible when votes by going to modify. Or answers we dont know i call are we skeptical 1st of all my. Most indian orders most Indian Americans theyre overwhelmingly democratic it is one of the most demos democratically leaning groups in the United States the Democratic Party number 2 many of them the vast majority in fact live in very solidly blue states they live in places like california new Jersey New York now its possible that trump thinks he can make these inroads im not ruling that out on the trade deal there was never a big deal on the on the cards from says big because he called everything big absolutely absolutely it was a very modest deal that they were trying to hammer out the pantry they got close enough but they were not able to get to even this sort of very kind of you know they were not able to cross the finishing line even with this man i think its interesting shes met his opponent its sort of a mirror of him a tough negotiator hes even said hes a very tough negotiator and you know you have a sort of i mean without getting into the weeds on trade policy you basically have both of these countries in many ways moving away from the air of globalization you have both these countries that are raising tariffs and so its harder and harder for the them to get to any kind of you know trade to get to a trade deal but i do want to stress that the strategic significance of the visit still holds elizabeth im just looking at the end of modi social media and also present trump social media in this they are very alike because they know twitter so this is what i mean so maybe share it and you can tell that there is genuine genuine. What should i say kemp i mean shit between the 2 theres handholding this bear how this. Complet all the greatest now youre the greatest. And trump was all that he said his team relishing the clouds and what it means for trying to be in india how i want to do you think those 2. Well you know this very alike in that populist leaders they are more right when leaders them masters of using technology and i think if i can just go back to the point earlier about you know Indian Americans about whether trump can get some of them to change their mind from the way that they usually vote which is you know 70 percent i think of it in americans the last election voted for Hillary Clinton well this time around they dont have henery clinton there are a lot of Indian Americans that do like Prime Minister modi and Indian Americans and even indians in fact who like loyalty like trump and. Again they dont have clinton and so this time i think modi does trump rather does see an opportunity and he is going for it there. I think it this is sort of going on a different tangent but i think another thing that we need to bring up is the fact that how controversial modi is weve talked about you know theyre both great negotiators 2 theyre very popular but they also are magnets for criticism i mean we we have to bring up the criticism that modi has received over kashmir the cutting off the internet i think its month for now donald trump has received similar criticisms for some of these same hardline policies and so its kind of ironic that in the midst of all of this that were talking about donald trump wanted to go there he was when these votes but it could blow back as well i mean i think that it probably wont the United States because most americans are that well informed about these policies but he does gravitate to these hard line leaders whether its. Modi whether its russia heir to one whether its Vladimir Putin whether its chinese president xi he calls them all his friends so im not im just wondering about the way that the 2 leaders approach terrorism and that seems to align them very much so so let me just play another clip from the stadium speech and he will present trump says about terrorism and see if that weedy aligns with how a promise a mosey thinks about a terrorist havok the United States and india are also firmly united in our our glad resolve to defend our citizens from the threat of radical islamic terrorism. Both of our judges have been hurt by the painted german of terrorism that terrorism brings. In terrorism well you know theres a sort of theres the political aspect to this and then theres the policy aspect the policy aspect theres nothing new india and the u. S. Have been cooperating in terms of fighting terrorism for a long time at least since 911. 00. And you know the u. S. Intelligence sharing has been quite deep they will share concerns about similar groups and so on what is different is the political rhetoric this kind of language the sort of more strident more apt top language is something that obviously appeals to President Trumps base in the United States it also appeals to Prime Minister more these base in india and so what youre seeing is a kind of shared language in when you approach this issue rather than sharply divergent policy because policy that has been pretty much the same no matter who has been president for several years now. And that if i can just add on that you know President Trump speech was all about knowing his audience i mean praising all things indian from spiritual leaders and Mahatma Gandhi and the bollywood Film Industry and cricket stars you know of no matter how badly he he but should words and names but the biggest cheer that he got he got many cheers but the biggest one was when he talked about you know fighting what he called terrorism and working with pockets and fighting terrorism so he really knows his audience here and hes hes appealing to them thats absolutely strategic like its not fighting terrorism its fighting radical islamic terrorism that is the word that phrase in its exact form is exactly what many donald Trump Supporters under the Obama Administration felt angry that wasnt being used they pushed him to say it he said it down in houston for the howdy modi rally where the 2 were last together and he said it again that is 100 percent deliberate on the part of the white house the speech or. Writers knew what they were going to get they wanted that applause line they got it they got the chair and thats 100 percent likely to be played in ads moving forward because it plays to the base and they hope will translate into both their bases guy from similar says on twitter as hes watching all 3 of you seem to be a grind meeting of egos will be interesting to see who strokes whose ego best and gets the most out of it for their respective countries well so far its been a love fest i mean if you saw. The you know he not only did he but he he name checked molony and. He said that like this is like a family visit this is this the relationship like a family relationship and he was really quite you know quite quite quite quite normal you got believable did you find that genuine. I think its part of the trauma offensive as is the hunger in 25000 people i dont ever find any 2 Global Leaders saying nice things about each other believable because its their job to do it they do it well yes yes they did whoa. The little i think i think i think these 2 leaders are really fond of each other the only question i have in all this though is you know you mentioned elizabeth the butchering of the names i mean you know you can you go to all this effort to have the pageantry and people the dancers and the colorful costumes and then you butcher some really important names how does that kind of undo is that sort of like damage when youre trying to get just the exact opposite thats the one thing im how did that play you know what for people who like its the same as in the United States for those who like trump they like trump regardless of what he says and it is the same thing here so they you know he he has good speech writers that really did their research i mean he was listing the best bollywood films of all time the greatest cricket stars the biggest spiritual leaders and i think those who like him appreciated that he made the effort let me share this with you because in the early hours of the morning Donald Trumps present Donald Trumps team what editing a beautiful mash up let me say because it shows that they have a likeness of power and they dont leave either. The soul of the spirit of the people. Is they care its down to progress a miracle of democracy extraordinary diversity and above all a strong and noble people. This is pretty moving and this is. Yeah you know what its moving but what it makes me think of as as they were in. Getting that video of what is happening in the capital new delhi as the editor in that video is exactly what the Indian Government didnt want to happen on the u. S. President s visit the worst violence since the protests against the citizenship law began more than 2 months ago. People dead including a Police Officer i dont think there have been they had been any deaths in these protests so far so. Its going to be a very different mood i think and day when the 2 leaders sit down tomorrow can you tell us a little bit about tomorrows agenda because im looking at so well today for you and im looking at whats happening is signing it 10 am local time ending up 10 pm local time so thats a full daves worth of what should we be looking out for what should we be looking behind the scenes or reading in between the lines elizabeth well you know what femi people are really wondering if there is going to be anything behind the curtains because so far there has been no indication and we are expecting. Pomp the u. S. President is meeting the indian president and then hes holding these bilateral meetings with Prime Minister modi and and different Business Leaders again he President Trump announced you know the big. 3000000000. 00 defense do today so were not sure what else will be said. At the press conference and he is making even though he went to Mahatma Gandhis home and i am the bad today it is good your art is where Mahatma Gandhi is from hes going to another memorial for Mahatma Gandhi in the capital new delhi but ill ill be interested to see if any of that program tomorrow will be curtailed because of the real violence i mean there are parts of new delhi the northeast that are literally burning right now that im fired because of rioting. So. Im looking at the Bigger Picture from this. What would you say i take away should be place for it because. The u. S. India strategic relationship remains on track driven mostly by china thats the piece that i wrote in the wall street journal on friday the 2nd takeaway is that this is a big domestic political victory for Prime Minister modi at a time when india has come under withering criticism both for its policies in kashmir and for the citizenship law to actually get a u. S. President to come and stand side you know stand with him is a huge coup im a little bit skeptical on how much donald trump gets out of this domestically but you know people we can agree to disagree on that. I think elizabeth really had an important point that we have to take into account that is the split screen reality as she talks about you know were seeing what these 2 leaders want us to see our interest very quickly i experience this how do you modi we happen to be there filming some counter protesters and the organizers that were supportive of neurons or modi they tried to seize our cameras it became a physical scuffle thats what were protected by the 1st amendment and for press freedoms here you know its a little tougher in india and so i think we have to remember that that you know there was an attempt to get elizabeth mention this put up a wall to kind of hide the nasty messy parts that they didnt want the cameras to see so we have to really ask questions constantly about this visit because right now you know again were seeing what they want us to see and you have to lift up when there is a. The i was going to say that you know i read sad and sad and article on the wall street journal on how trump and modi and similar are similar and how they differ and i completely agree with him on the fact that as can be he was saying they are protected by the 1st amendment in the in the United States but the institutions here and india whether its the judiciary or the media have been weakened so in march and that in the more d. And the big j. P. Over the last 6 years lisa thank you so much i doubt youll be going back to bed ice show that youre studying on your new day of work for us were looking forward to seeing you on aljazeera dot com on aljazeera as well your reporting from President Trumps visit to india continues for the next 12 hours also came to me thank you for joining us thank you as well for you to be active really appreciate you and if youve been on live us on you cheap appreciate your feedback and i will see you again online at a. J. Stream by phone. 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