A secret agreement that will shape the middle east for the century to come world war one through our eyes. I have to be ok youre watching the stream home edition we are talking about zimbabwe today because you asked us to you send us hatchbacks including zimbabwean lives matter pray feels embark way and freeze him bob what hes going in. We are asked who is correspondent in southern africa. The mood in zimbabwe changes depending on whats going on at a particular time sometimes people say they feel relatively free to express themselves but sometimes they are reluctant like u. B. S. Days you ask someone to comment on the state of the economy in the person to say im too reluctant to do so im too scared to do so because what if i Say Something that someone doesnt like what could happen to me or my family but its safe to say the mood of the economy is that of general frustration this is what you see every day outside banks across the country is a serious cash shortage in zimbabwe which means people can wait for hours outside a battle trying to access their money but when they get to the front of the line they sometimes told the moneys run out inflation is now more than 800 percent that means the price of almost everything in the country keeps going up and a lot of people are saying they actually card to survive under these Economic Conditions members of the Catholic Church and human rights lawyers say this has been an unprecedented attack on dissent tier for weeks dozens of people have been arrested for trying to protest. Over the economy and corruption in government but the bobbies government says they is in no crisis here then 1st those people attacking them are being nice by western embassies who are trying to undermine the state and stop the bobbies economy from recovering. We see you audience already standing by on you cheap are interested to hear your comments your questions are also on twitter joining this conversation say you can t. You too can be part of the story. Welcome guest im going to get you to introduce yourself to International Audience hello fads i tell everybody. Hello everyone my name is for the sign my hand and i am the National Spokesperson of the main opposition m. D. C. Alliance good to have you welcome to the stream introduce yourself. To give very much my home is already over them but i am good director of information and bubbly said was. Its good to have you day well welcome to the stream and tell everybody. My name is theyre all marketing and its with an africa character its human rights watchs thank you good to have you guess so the reason were having this conversation is because were hearing news out of zimbabwe but not just in the news for lines from actual zimbabweans who follow the stream who want to talk to us and want to talk to the world about zimbabwe so you have a look here on my laptop hyphen yeah ok can you help us bring global attention to the human rights abuses in africa another tweet. This is what is commonly happening is in a more to be honest if youre not in same or not Zimbabwean Police still helps in bobby and spike bringing awareness to this and it just let me have a look at the human rights pay. For play and im just going to get down here some of the stories that were looking at end here in the prison conditions of activists in zimbabwe zimbabwe should denounce crackdown day well. What is the situation like in zimbabwe if hes just feet old to always see something that has changed too recently to make citizens want to speak out. War zimbabwe is in crisis. Over 60 percent of what wins the military now of course they need food aid they must sooner or option of the us there wasnt government. Because nessus doctors do not have enough to work they do to. Over 1000. 00 protective equipment and when they complain when the court says the government is not listening to deploy is heavy handed Security Forces to crash in crypto or critics so what we have is an escalation of abuses and if failure by the government of zimbabwe to resolve very genuine issues that citizen and this is what is no results in you know this becoming going to be an important course in risky government is to tell you to order one to delete but i see not in doing it. I could not agree more just be on the better 1st of july i was one of those citizens who stepped out and they are looking not as enough we are sick and tired of hunger crisis as dual pointed out 8600000 zimbabweans. Hyperinflation currently sits at 840 percent its day 62 of the nurses strike where in the Global Pandemic if this doesnt spell crisis to one i dont know what if instead of the government ing gauging with this crisis you know they respond with haley handedness of the most inordinate kind youve got soldiers everywhere instead of the government facing citizens who raise concerns and say look weve got wage erosion prices are going up we cannot afford to live they come down with Police Brutality we were protesting the other days and i held up a placard in my neighborhood that simply stated no levi lentz save the baby treason by our way and after that peaceful protest that was socially distance that was completely say in war are you get arrested and you spend the night in jail having spent the night in jail you all your lawyer has made a simple request can you please fumigate the jail cell the police refuse which is a complete ass because the very charges that you face a bench of breaking coagulation congregations and so you see that even though the pretext of the lockdown the de facto state of emergency. Even though the government is that look the reason were doing this as covert 19 you can tell that its a desire to clamp down on basic freedom and so when we say zimbabweans in crisis them vote with an ice pack and what we mean. And when 160 people are abducted terrorized young women are fictionally assault or rape guns bishop speak out and instead of a Government Order for an independent investigation into the torture was very catholic bishops are labeled a long line dirt are labeled genocide or whatever highly problematic similar. Government Spokes Person in this conversation we should allow to that to actually speak so were really aware of the economic challenges in zimbabwe but that is not the critique not to the greatest critique the greatest critique is how you deal with people who are speaking out who are protesting who had. Thank you for my show on death and over much to our desire for giving us this honorable opportunity except in a time of to maybe make this very clear its quite unfortunate you have brought into it to visit from the simple to go party one disguised as a Civil Society activists but now the tone of the language speaks again to this and one thing which is going to unfortunate that means to take some time to respond to people was quoted from the same Political School of thought which of them dizzy quite unfortunate but may as simply said as well unfortunate that you know i look at the father mona quite an upcoming politician or as you know one of the simpsons have activists if you weeks ago if i mean a few months ago shes a president that is just a joy to them dizzy as it were and despite assurances just in time to make sure that she becomes irrelevant in a new political. Found a political now that she was quite a woman is if your mother will wins a contested elections not as an end deceptive it but as an independent official the president has just been picked from that is to become spokesperson of what she calls as i did the 2nd imagine a Political Party in the country so let your attitude i just wonder what they want us to waste our time and i dont want to i dont interrupt you even when i dont waste your time picking on the particular gas the gas did not suggest a program symbolically and suggested the program so recent to me is serious so my question wasnt my question was if it i mean it is irrelevant to restate your time because if you have that conversation with friends i any time we can have this conversation or touch the requests she was their response to the protests the response to people speaking out but the early in his analysis is locked. Literally there has not been an significant protest in this country want to do what it was just talking about now you say i have worked with some other time to talk with for they but were loaded to refer to or circumstance when she said she was arrested while ordering a placard but you know that across the world we are jurisdictions all nations across the world in look bones of one where all of the others are but was not an exception when the south africa where people are rubber bullets and for engaging in unnecessary crowding and where demonstrations have literally been a suspended letter to ensure that the government the jurisdiction is running i mean or rather the mission against this and them a call to cover 1000 now if i were going to ask you what was father doing of this just now she goes about letting a little alone it is poignant that they have been abductions in this country when we know that there have been affecting abductions that have a spouse in a desperate attempt to recover the result to one of the relevance the Political Movement has suffered 2 things which i need to bring to the tension of this discussion one that built this method by a court ruling which nullified the president of the present that she thinks or she can have too little else knows and number 2 theres some Political Parties looting and it has been splitting several times and recently they dont have a headquarters and she can testify to that said the other source kind of leader now that the m. D. C. In the sympatico but theres a club to come from they have disappeared 12000000 years but i will take a lot of the 2000000. 00 from the Political Partys finance eggs which you cannot account for now she thinks that while im on an international to add to the to undermine the efforts of our government on the efforts of zambia way no it doesnt work zimbabwes as a citizen who has accepted this will say it is a ravaged by private 1000 but not to the extent that other nations even within the fringes of our good doesnt suffer where peaceful people we are under disturbed by it does but at the click of section 6 us and the relevant cigars we have read well it doesnt take into account. The mystical take of course what you just have to think and what you hear you had a government less and he has an opposition is less obvious. There is a different i want to bring in nigel hes a media l. Intrapreneur and hes a political activist so you know where hes coming from but he says what happened that he has difficulty in even just voicing issues that he would like to bring up his nigel so my experience who the police were crazy. Are. The most original visitors trying to train the. New of the it was going to open to read because. We are in the Silicon Valley give you can create express and there and. It are with the. Present case because ready. 2 hours a day 4 ready am in the morning and then they took me to his division hordes as forcing because. The words people are not free to express that themselves d and that what we and. To savor the moment. They are this is problematic if people cant speak out in zimbabwe this feels like it is not zimbabwe 2020 that its him up and from the past. Youll feel its absolutely and you. Even worse because you know youre ok one year to produce a new democracy a problem you. Change from the mugabe government well we have sinned and. Theres been increasing christian. State institutions that should be protecting human rights if. There is no freedom there has been in cases of duction church and sexual abuse of. All these cases notice that its been tortured. To turn against the government and in many cases they dont only stations in charge of their government they have been mauled to why distant and never without me its never been tested. Before. Or christian or no and wonder if you zoom in to do voice of the people dream again with june and since there has been. What you. Call it and then we have a 6 dispute is going to sell outs and. Prominent journalists. Were exposed to high level corruption in and instead of being protected or that they have been outed as to what is been in jail since july 20. Second to commit violence simply because you spoke out and saves not or option so there has been an increase in the use of institutions to out of us citizens with you are going to be. No way to tend to because. Courts. Against them. Tonight that. Is quite unfortunate this is what im talking about you need to know that what i said where have said what we have seen this since as well as issues of social media and the deliberate spreading of fossils nephi us propaganda of that d ended ensuring that the image of this country and its leadership is undermined when the global stage and mad just to bring this to your attention of the attention of the listeners that the 2 guests are that you have brought you here to represent organizations that have been part of the you is for import is projection with regard to this country that part of that for them or her to come from is called them disallowance it is the party that invited im sure that this country selling the successful clearing out of the litter form into those it should not jaded about arsenal that did not cut it in the election in analogous even you can have alternative voices it would be ridiculous if we put free people to zanu p. F. The idea that you cannot have a conversation with other voices that is not democracy let me let me let me push on a little bit because you started with that point and were not with us with the show and are still making the same point let me bring in Something Else because there are really the real challenges are challenges that symbolically has right now sure instance theres still a problem you want to lecture me on what you have to talk about you dont have to give me an opportunity to answer im talking about the what is it that it was a definite when theres a website i mean really i think im ambivalent as you know ricky you already said i want that. I hear you and you already said that once and i dont feel that we spent the entire i dont know remember were going to go i dont remember about a 9 hour on a bed would say loans but remember given what the family of america you had the majority of the conversation divides are moving on im not having a conversation about the conversation how do look here i am to sit by our way imposes curfew to spiking coronavirus there are some real challenges in zimbabwe and let me share this with you these other thoughts not from the guests in the lineup of but from other people who are in the same so chris sensed that the covert response there is no coherent covert response no input from top Health Professionals and woefully low uncoordinated testing. Musume the Health Delivery system is completely collapsed or only coping by morning our loved ones many coping by morning i loved ones and burying them some of them are dying in hospital car parts this takes us beyond opposition politics and zanu p. F. This talks to how youre coping with a crisis that many countries a struggling to cope with divides work ahead. I dont think i need to go ahead probably i did probably get this interview because youre not having a conversation with me and im sure jennifer you as well respect just as a lover that youre choking me you dont want me to turn we were to us didnt you want to be to keep what we keep asking me or do we have a conversation will competing to each other i dont think this is all you are to other guests well but to tell you what we know about the organiser that ive said all that a single social media didnt deliberate attempt to sensationalize nonexistent crisis is a right he has really made actually until at least 3 times so i am trying i am trying very hard to push normal and i dont think. We can ever to be gagged im telling you what you dont know and what youre going to want to hear now that may 9th a problem because it limited you if you have friends that have established that you want to listen to yourself becomes a problem would you like to talk about current fire so shine is on to that. I mean i want to hear about the good of others but so far i have a little bit about everything because you can allow me to answer please go ahead talk about current price and the challenges that are having. Thank you very much like any other country in this world there is no country that has not been ravaged by call of viruses and the disease or the pandemic has left untold suffering political social and economic as well as it an exception given from the country from which youre broadcasting it is not an exception our neighbors it is not an exception but this is what we have done with the little that we have as a country that is one under sanctions invited by the 2 individuals that are in here with this endeavor im talking about them because this at the end of his thing as an it is on Foreign Relations to decide on continuation and extension of sanctions against this kind it is the reason why our list because of recent challenges it is the reason why i want to quit his present judges was there where peoples of made an exemption is what ensure that we screw i mean our economy is crammed our economy is bentley damaged and when that happens they then support of the people from zambia in the niger religion change and now is what unfortunately the 2 individuals of this interview want to should quote out just by appearing or wedding to pretend and lets go to israel settling for the best and hunt for what they are this is only human terms that are in reality you are irrelevant as an average. Manatee on the way out by just an exception because we are repeating ourselves we can round and round in circles so let me just bring in a new voice when tatting is talking about the way forward. Is an answer i. When she would like her country to be and right now this is a listen but of the Biggest Challenges we have right now as a country is the should get to their attic space to team pins even toilets in london to. Give an example of how much how the milk i mean is so damn are you going to missile 60000000. 00 worth of call it not been the farm and any given to the military is one of the 3 men and then you can serve you. Well in others ministers are not the government for failing to deal with. This current behind it of the day we cannot. Continue to push them to get. Them suited to the whole entire council that. In this kind of loop in addition to their hunting. For safe this is been an interesting strain conversation because we spent so much of it talking about the lineup which is a very unusual thing to do if with thinking about what its real issues when the opposition. In a sentence what would she say. I think the critical thing is that for once there is a need to put the people. As you conceive them where it is on in schools because of poverty and Justice System corruption the bad governance crisis that has been caused by the regimes like have pointed out the Public Health system is on its way and didnt. Home and you know the public how they call them wildly and kind of after they have Public Health care at the moment weve got a very uncoordinated testing system which has seen you know the cost of a diagnostic test as high as 16 u. S. Dollars better than less than a nurse earns and currently as ive pointed out that stay 62. 00 of a mess a strike the minister of Health Community appointed hasnt used them match those nurses so as a way or the need for urgent political dialogue number one big need for the leading Political Parties as well as Civic Society a need for everyone to come to the table theres a need for Regional Intervention in this crisis even if you look at the rhetoric thats coming out of the regime you hear that mr man that was speaking of the need to flush out of comments speaking of position and government critics as being dark or its a bad apple speaking of you know if the night i mean i didnt bring in the books and i want to be in the press. I hear i would win the president s race into the conversation this is preston of zimbabwe because he pushes the conversation just a little bit forward so we hear what the opposition is talking about and hear the response from the kind of history have a listen to the press and it will become a terms that this debate as it. Did but who futile rogue. Acting in league with the doctors the blood that to him attempt. To divide our people. And we can our systems will be flushed out so im just looking in some of the comments on. It and its all of what matters to me who are here in the gulf but. Around so gilbert schools are in shocking state doctors and nurses run away to other countries to earn a living im looking for some pros and p. F. Comments and im not finding them you know its really hard for discussion to lanny says that count you see that yes its making people suffer zimbabwe is on sanctions because a sunny yes and so on and so on this is a difficult conversation to have because we have opposition voices here we have government voices here and it is difficult to knew she would i think. The more challenges that zimbabwe has right now and divides well i do appreciate you being in this conversation but sipc in day one thank you and each of us well this is very r. K. Signing off and didnt mean to chip and i discussed. Just what. Its. Mental disease because 50 percent of the deaths of children. But. Its lack its bad childhood education that. Used. To. Cease. To it. 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