Up the formation of a new government. General as of as albert ham has ordered the release of for civilian cabinet ministers detained in last months military take over. My protests are expected laser, those who are relieved are the minister of information, the minister of trade, the minister of and are of communication and the minister of youth and sports. The minister, the cabinet minister in the office of the Prime Minister, is yet to be released, as well as the minister of industry and the spokesperson oper dissolve sovereignty council. So its clear that there are still other officials who have been released, general abdel for that abraham on the day he took over when he addressed the media. And the nation said that those who do not Face Criminal Charges will be released while those who are not really is, are the ones who are potentially facing criminal charges. So it looks like those ministers who are yet to be released will be facing criminal charges. How the Un Security Council has said to me on friday to discuss the escalation conflict and ethiopia. International calls are growing for an immediate cease fire, and us envoy is now in addis ababa to push for d escalation. Rebels from the northern tiguan region. Say theyve taken towns on a highway to the capital, and the government has declared a state of emergency. The World Health Organization says europe is again, the epicenter of the coven, 19 pandemic. And currently has more infections than africa and asia combined. The top you unofficial in Bosnia Herzegovina says the p. Steel that ended the war there. 26 years ago is under threat. The bosnian serb leader mila duke has announced plans to establish a separate army within the country that violates the 1995 days in peace. Agreement, the Biden Administration has approved its 1st major on sale to saudi arabia. The u. S. Says the 650000000. 00 deal is meant to help re add, defend itself. Well, those are the headlines ill have more few after the stream. One day i might be covering politics in the next. I might be a revised quote, also from serbia, hungary, to whats most important to me, just talking to people, understanding what theyre going through so that i can be the head winds in the most human way possible. Here it is 0. We believe everyone has a story worth hearing i i have for me. Okay, welcome to the stream to day we up when you news and analysis from see dad can the minute she could be reverse, let me bring in him a morgan. Shes are out, is you a correspondent who is on that story . Hippa, what is the headline while its been fast moving back to this headline apparently is the release of for some of the Political Prisoners who are arrested on the morning of the takeover. So again, very fast moving developments here in sedan, but the latest we have is the release of the Political Prisoners. Although there are many who still remain under arrests. We have a lot to talk about in this show and i bring you not just keep up, ha, ha, lose. And also miss anne, nice to have both of you ladies with us, a hulu. First of all, please introduce yourself. Tell us what is who you are, what you do, what have you been watching the news in the past hour . So you would have seen how to do the analyses are right on al jazeera. Nice, go ahead. Welcome to the stream. Thank you, family. Hi everyone. Im for more than im the managing partner of a think tank, karen austin called insights trust you that we sent to support the transition, which is having an interesting if im at the moment at martin babson, i want to hear more about that in just a moment. Was an welcome to the stream, introduce yourself to our international audience. Thank you very much and was on a meeting, im a political activist, a co founder of the innovation science and technology thinktank for People Center development and a fellow at the hate institute from a delisa policy. As you can see, we have a very informed in the line up if you on youtube, right now, the Comment Section is its here, but your comments, your questions about c, dan, about sedans, coo and i will do my best to bring those comments and questions into the show we are going to start with a little bit of recap from the last couple of days. And to that im going to look to my colleagues at start here. Were going to take us back breaking news out of saddam, where the military has arrested several civilian ministers and officials, thousands of people have taken to the streets to protest against mondays military crew. This guy, general Abdel Fata Albert Han has taken control and kicked out the Prime Minister. People are really angry. Theyre back on the streets like they were 2 years ago. Thats when they brought down a president. They blamed for 30 years of a huffy museum. Im going to start with a tweet thats come in about this show about this half hour. We want peace in sudan. This comment comes from m d. Rackaboto has san your thoughts right now respond to that tweet. We want peaceful and peaceful on justice and we want freedom is one of these. Protestors have been repeating a long prior to december evolution in 2018 and they continued to show their interest in peace. Have been shown quick clearly and promptly the respond of the public to, to the cool and how early a, within the early hours of the cool people to cover the streets and started building barricades and announced their strike. Some of the strikes that were pre announced almost a month before the cool because the call was anticipated to anyone in sudan and also to anyone who, who would observe objectively the situation is and, and the partnership was falling apart. And it was clear that the path was not taken to a place of peace and justice and freedom that people have long a struggled far. It was being called the partnership of blood, since he was actually a compromise with killers and the killers have shown, there are 2 faces. Again, they have killed in the streets of sudan at least 18 confirmed death in the last 11 days since the cool though, sorry, the confirmed ones. And keep in mind that most of the cities of the quiet now has no access to internet to be able to access the internet and express yourself as its denise is a fixed ext, extraordinary measures and a good percentage of risks on oneself as well. And but many detained, including the workers where it went and on strike, the workers in the white nile factory have been detained. The staff of the 0 diversity have been detained. All of that is what is happening right now in sudan. It is clear that this is denise public, that the path to peace can only be done through a full revolution. And thats why them the thats what the for this thursday are saying in the streets right now, right . That we will not will no longer and accept half revolution, we will longer accept the compromise. Thats also the resistance committees are saying in their demand that derek calling for a full i want to share the conversation with your co panelists. I want you to leave them something to say, let me bring them in here. I lose. Thank you miss, im a come right back to you. I lose. What is the state of seed on it one week into a military coup . In the last few moments, were getting breaking news of Political Prisoners being released. What else is happening . Well, the interesting thing to notice that weve had almost an immediate shift in power off to the army sort of came in very often heavy. They arrested a whole group of when additions and activists, but immediately we saw as it was and said that response from the street. And so that has sort of, you know, tilted this power back on his axis almost immediately. And since then, see, you know, civil disobedience isnt now the largest protest of the globally in recent years with 4000000 people coming out on the 30th. We have seen the basis of this military to crumble also seen the regional allies are real sports that the crew have also come out publicly now to condemn the condemned, according to call for resolution to the crisis. And so were seeing this sort of shift away from our concentrated military hands, which obviously it has been the largest part of the past 2 years shift again interested in what that looks like and how to take that forward and how to reach the billing goal. Thats the challenge that were facing now. If i want to understand what its like for people on the street in sudan, if the ones that youve spoken to, let me start, hey, on my laptop, this is net blocks. Net blocks is a Global Internet monitor. And this is a fascinating, this graph that they put together. This is last week just before october, the 25th. This is the usage on line and then sunny the deep, the huge debt. There was a spike when the mobile internet was restored last tuesday and then here we are right here with virtually no connectivity. That is an issue. What else is happening . Heather . While there are so many things happening, when you look at it in terms of economy, there has been more goods, lets say, for available in the market. And its obvious that the military is trying to show that, you know, in the one week that we took over or in the 11 days that was taken over, weve been able to provide you with goods. Weve been able to reduce the price of fuel after the lifting of subsidies. But then i think one thing im impressed about is how people are thinking normally. I think you would see people quite happy that theres more commodities in the market and that theres been a drop in prices, but people are asking questions. You know that. And i was quite surprised what i wouldnt say surprise were quite impressed to hear, to hear people say things like it goes on to show how far the previous government, the government that has been out good by the military is not really to blame for the economic crisis, you know, when you have the military taking over an interest, a few days, the fuel price has dropped. We have flour in the market, we have more bread, we have the ports open. It. People are now saying that they believe that the military actually had a role in the comic crisis that was created during the the, the times of the Transitional Government. One thing were also hearing is you know, the, the lack of the freedom that has been taken away. People can express themselves freely. So during the 1st days of the call, you know, when we try to interview people to get their sense of whats going on, the 1st thing youd hear is, im not going to get in trouble with the military. And if it comes up, it takes me back to the days, you know, where we time people protesting on the street. And you sometimes find a few people like about 1520, maybe even 50. And i would always ask myself, what difference does it make, you know, when you have about 10 people protesting for a cause. But then since the military takeover and i understand that its the freedom of expression. And i dont think well be seeing that much people have already been expressing fears about their views. Dont want to openly express their, their views on the, on the, on the development. Some of them just say, you know, i just want to go on living. I but theres also the people who talk to us about how angry they are because of the take over. Yeah, sorry about this. Can say we have also seen the people actually have sort of traversed this point where they understand exactly what the dangers are, but theyre still pushing for their demands to be heard. So for the original demands of the 2018 revolution with the knowledge of what has happened since. And i think that, you know, this regime that we had before 2018 and to some extent its the same people that we see in this current qu, leadership are, you know, they are, they have done some frightful things. And yet you still see this result from the streets or i think youre right there is this awareness now, you know what, it means, what the duties as a citizen off and that have never really been cultivated before this awareness, right . Thats coming through and its, its really kind of causing that shit the minute you might miss you strengthen the truth. Propensity provider doesnt really scare people in the same way anymore. And i think thats a blue chip, which im really well ad here. If i may, is that while awareness, it is actually good to have, but i will put what i will put as actually the 1st reason why people are capable of facing the military core right now is the organization, the level of organization that were seeing with the resistance committees, the neighborhood resistance committees that are actually right now cover in the basic needs of the neighborhoods are doing the civil disobedience covering their basic needs. And also some of them are working on an elected and select and leaders. I looked in to look to members of the national parliaments, so they, so they are ready to take power and take over the governance of their areas, this level of organization that were also seeing just hours before the, the millions march on the 3rd of october. That kennedy neighborhood was a says committee put out its 7 demands that included no negotiation and no compromise with the military and no going back to military rule on within hours, it was adopted by more and more neighborhood committees. And we saw that before the morning of the 30th, he was already, at least for them and the tri, pirated capital. It was the demands of the capital and it was the demands. We also heard in the streets when we marched on october 13th. So this level of organization, keeping in mind that this is being done and theres lots of internet shut down radio stations or even being scrambled calls. We lost calls for the 24 hours of the 13th of october during the march, which with people and more risk. Because people who could not basically warrant there are other resistance committees. And the other professors that there, that Security Forces are coming. And due to that, we actually lost due at least 2 martyrs on the day of the 13th of october. So this level of organization is, was allowing this, it needs revolution to continue. And i guess the put on resistance committees and their big role on this, or let me suggest a, another potential reason why the Resistance Movement is doing well. And that may well be International Reaction and International Condemnation to the military. Cuz it may well be, im gonna ask lou about that. But 1st i want to go to a Senior Analyst at the International Crisis group. This is harness horner as soon as he finishes speaking, hello, please re at telephone. Here again, the withholding of aide by the United States by the world bank 700000000. 00 and 2000000000. 00 respectively. Is really much more aimed at avoiding allowing the military to accrue any credit for any success that they may have in alleviating the needs of sydneys. That aid was given in the 1st place with the strategic idea that it would improve the civilian led governments ability to show students that it could respond adequately to the needs of students. I mean, i think jonas is right. There has been a lot of National Pressure sort of being brought to back on the crew leaders. But i would say that its, its incumbent on International Leaders for support of in, in democracy to put pressure on those that dont. Right. Thats where that conversation is. Most useful and weve seen recently that the United States in the United Kingdom have come up with a statement of quad statement with saturday, basically each of the biggest supporters of the ministry and they have put pressure on them sort of bring it back. Now that is sort of satisfactory, thats fine. Terms of International Relations and, and being able to make things happen, but im not sure to what extent the street is going to say, yeah, thats fine for us. That we have to go back to the 24th of october and said there are lots of holes coming out from different cultures and societies saying that this is not what we want to want more than that. One full of anybody wanted a p, a that im not included in any of these condemnations of the coup. I would just like to add to that that the, the modest amounts of so called aide that was sent to sedan. They were mostly used and totally spent on the bureaucracy of argon International Aid organizations that we so and that we know very small amounts actually reached the people. So yes, maybe with hold on these funds will have an impact on the availability of hard currency for the, for the military and for their military council, the military co council. But in reality, for the people, these amounts were not just only modest, but also they come, came coupled and conditioned with economic policies that eliminated the government that were used as the narrative for the cool by the, by the military council. And it was not in any way that i see it or that i believe the public. This is nice, public sees it sees it helpful to this is denise people. In reality, even the statement that we heard from you came back, there are the special invoice, the special invoice, the u. S. Special envoy to the horn of africa actually called the killing of 18 mortars the injuries of hundreds and hundreds detained, a restraint and exercise of restraint by the army, while he called that the rightful demands of the sudanese people are unrealistic to expect of fully civilian government this is unacceptable as the way i see that International Communities interviews has been counter revolutionary. How, what i will say regarding the statements were saying right now is that the push by the people on the ground have forced those parties to utilize the language of their evolution. To try to pass the compromise. However, eventually, whenever they actually try to put a compromise on the table, i strongly believe it will be rejected by the public seen the reaction in the streets right now. Lets talk about the military, hipaa. How you do this. Im going to start on my laptop with abdur rahim, who told us just before we started this program, just military, go back to the border, forget political issues, and leave them to Political Parties that thought there also want to bringing to greet who spoke to us a little bit earlier on the video, the problem i think that actually goes to the situation was leadership, not meeting room, whether it was the civilian or the number, terry, without actually both sides seeing this issue. Because the most important thing right now is to get out of this military coup, the military, how much on good faith they started off entire process with this finally cracked down to death to tell us these injuries and mass times to ship of an entire country. So we can safely say that we dont have the military, we dont lead to democracy. And any issues that we have with the government, my government can be solved by means other than a military human. We actually approach the military. I know you have done as well too. So yeah. Company there has and they refused to be on the program. They wouldnt answer any of us. Weve spoken. Yeah. Go ahead. We will spoken to some of the military commanders and as well as the pro military parties that thats a bit, i guess im trying to wrap my head around, but yeah, well look into the military commanders in the military parties. And i think there is a lot of anger and there is a lot of presentment towards the army. And then you see, theres also, i think the military does have concerns about how about the status of taken and how far it will bring them when it comes to accountability, how far down it will bring them. So i think one thing that you get a sense of is that, you know, we, were the ones in charge. We should be responsible for the country stability. And that Political Parties have not been very united. And theyve not been very i think they stepped up to they gave when it came to the issue of leadership. So that, that, thats one thing that you hear repeatedly from them. But the issue of accountability as well. You know, when you talk about, when we ask them about the protestors killed about those who are detained in the sense that this is, this is our leadership were the one thing controls were the ones who brought this transition just because, you know, when protest went and set up that sitting in front of the Army Headquarters and on the 6th of april, 2019 we the one who are said bashir. Therefore anything else that comes after is our responsibility. So this sense of where the power were the control, were the ones with the guns, but were also the ones with the 4th and the minds. And were the ones with the authority because were the ones who took the step. Theres that sense that you keep getting from them. And then when you look at the st, just that every single time you hear that narrative from the military, especially in their statements, and you tend to the 3, the anger seems to keep growing. You know, like know if you did not over the rubbish here until we protested against the tuition. And so we voice our anger and this is something here from all protest. I knew we were the ones who did the steps were the ones who turn the wheels of emotion. And you guys are basically just a step into the whole and your role ultimately is to preserve the security of the nation. Yes, the best of the border is not internally and not targeting, as you know, processes were simply expressing their, their right to, to have a civilian Leadership Team to live in democracy, to have freedom be thing just as the most of the revolution. So, so again its, its very hard to get a sense of how far you can do with the military do away with the military. They seem to be very adamant that were going from a Transitional Government. Were going to have a sovereignty council. We will be in charge and we want to form a civilian Transitional Government led by Prime Minister of them, or anybody else who we choose. But they dont want to be removed from the picture. Thats something completely opposite of what we hear from people in the street and to complete it seems to be in line with what we hear from the International Mediate of a parent earlier from mother and pollute about the role of International Mediators. But the thing to get a sense that we can take the military out of the picture, and thats something you hear from the military as well. Were not getting out of this equation. If you guys want to call this crisis, youre going to have to find a way for with us in it and preferably having the upper hand. If not equal hands with the civilian and with the processors on the street. Id like to add someone to what he has said is that the military, in reality was not a step in the path of the revolution. It was, it was a compromise. It was a compromise that was pushed on the people and actually by mediators similar to the ones are war quiet. Now, basically the military was rewarded for a massacre by a power sharing agreement. Thats what happened earlier. And the people in sudan are clear that they will not repeat that it is, its very disappointing. You expected that the International Mediators will try to force on the compromise on this is denise people. And its also very expected and disappointing that International Media will keep ignoring the actual leader of the revolutionary movement in the streets, which is the resistance committees. You can watch International Media and Mainstream Media for days about that and not know that there is such a thing as a resistance moves on that. Does that have a difference to what is happening on the ground . If the resistance is happening on the ground . Groceries level . Does it matter what International Media site . What matters over here is that we will also, we are, if we had access to the internet, we will be sharing that ourselves, express into ourselves interior with our allies, and even sharing the experience with other evolutionary nations that are a working on evolution right now. And against dictatorships, and thats what, thats how evolution works, right . Thats it. You can not have a revolution in all countries doesnt work that way. There will always be counter evolutionary regimes and garments around you that strain to bring you back into a, under a dictatorship. If we had the access to express ourselves, it wouldnt have mattered. But the fact that we do not have the access and International Media that some of them say that they align with the values of this, of the nice People International organizations as well. Who have the capacity and the resources to carry our voices and amplifiers. While we are under internet shut down, they refused to do that. They carry a narrative that makes it easier for the military to jump in with a compromise than carry the actual narrative of Grassroots Movement and why it will not be possible to push such a compromise under the nice people. And im just looking at the title for todays discussion. Can the military coup in sudan be reversed . And then we start, i mean, i agree with some breaking news, which, which may be like, oh, maybe b. What do you think . I mean, the point isnt, can it, the point is, should it . Yes, it can be reversed. If an officer is a fight on all sides, on the civilian to compromise on the military, to sort of be incentivized to realize that that is one of the best option out of the question is should it be robust . You know that the previous sets up, as we know to do to this q, the school was not exactly successful. Its only a per se, pause on the, on the militarys sort of advancement in terms of wanting to take over the reasons why the ministry stays to school have not suddenly disappeared and will not to pay. It was under revert back to the 2024th of october. They did quote the questions and you know, and wasnt, its right. There is a lack of imagination from mediated both domestic and international, about breaking the sort of standard policy response to coups which is always say, you still need to have some. But in all, some, you know, contingent on the very presence youre trying to, to unseat you. Know theres not much room within that model of completely getting rid of for example, in the military. And so we need to have a rethink that community mediate, is where we and i dont believe that they have started that attention, but think that it would quit and often, but i had of any sort of thank you. 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