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Hi, im Steve Clements and i have a question as binding leaves out a red line with israel and then he says, oh, there are no red lines with israel. What impact is whitehouse confusion having on the war and gaza . Lets get to the bottom line. The was to realizing that hes losing a good chunk of his electro base. Us present, joe biden, and other Democratic Party leaders have turned up the heat on his really Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in words, if not necessarily in actions bite instead, netanyahu was hurting his real, more than helping is real. And a few days later, us senator Chuck Schumer, whos also been one of the leading supporters of israel for decades called the as really Prime Minister and obstacles a piece. And actually said he needs to step down. But does this just make netanyahu more popular in his own country . And how does this public spot do anything to end israels more on gaza now . And its 6 months of starvation, disease, and total destruction, the millions of palestinians who just got nowhere else to go. Today were speaking to professor jeffrey sachs, the director of the center for Sustainable Development at Columbia University, and one of the worlds leading economists, dr. Sax. Thank you so much for joining say, where is the conscience and where are the policies that are focused on the potential a war crimes every day in every way that you see out there and what should be done about it as well . What should be done about it is straightforward. Of course, what the government of israel is doing is unconscionable. A World Opinion is united against israel. The problem is the United States remains complicit in these war crimes because its traditional and us politics, that politicians show no space between the United States and israel. Now whats interesting is that we have seen i verbally by who i am schumer, i have, i been pretty explicit about the absolute unacceptability of the Israeli Government policies, but they havent acted. But of course, a strong, effective view west president would do, would be to stop the flow of munitions if those munitions are being killed, they use for slaughter, for killing tens of thousands of innocent people, which is exactly whats happening by them is a very weak president we dont even know his real mental state, frankly, but hes a terribly weak president , so he rings his hands. He complains, but its as if i dont run this the Us Government actually its, its something i cant recall you in this way where the president says our policy is so one. So and that the offices know its not i. And in fact, netanyahu way is the one that seems to be calling the shots day by day. My question to you is, could he lose the election against donald trump over this complex . As ive been telling guy i friend is i dont know whether they would count me as a friend any more. But ive been saying to a Democratic Party leaders actually for years that the, by the Foreign Policy, not only these of the israel, thats more recent, but also the ukraine work and other tensions. Absolutely, i will hurt them terribly at the polls. I said that in the mid term, so when the republicans captured the congress, ive left the party because im so unhappy with the war monitoring of the Democratic Party. But its basically a war monitoring. I think i in support of a president whos a warm minder, but is just generally weak and, and i think you incompetent frankly. So people see this, they dont want binding even to run for reelection. They think hes too old to infirm. And his a display of in confidence on these Foreign Policy issues is that it is clearly i a very much hurting him. I, you know, these opinion surveys and in his approval ratings, which are awful going into a re election campaign. But to give the president and element of the i dont know whether to call it credit, but to kind of note some things have done. Theres clearly a shift in the rhetoric. Clearly a shift where, you know, even Chuck Schumer has come out and said, you know, is really fine. Mr. B meeting, you know, who has to go that youve got a um, a commitment. Now although its taking 60 days or so to build a portal and i mean, i dont know whether that is sounds like a good thing or the world this thing. Wow, the United States cannot build a port very quickly, but 60 days to get materials in who they are. Are there any net positives you see in the shift in tone, the commitment to try to get another aid portal into gaza . Then they have now as well, you know, this port, the thing is a, a tragic comedy because why are they building a port when they have a road . Theyre building a port because the is really government is blocking the road. We dont need to build a port to get aiden. We need to stop the absolute, the more crime policy making of the Israeli Government. And that can be done by say, as the us has on other occasions, no more arms for this kind of policy. We dont want to be complicit in genocide. You know, the genocide charge use in front of the International Court of justice for those of what us who watched very closely those proceedings, read the pleadings and know the 1948 genocide code. Its, i think quite likely that the International Court of justice is going to find that he is real is in violation of the genocide convention. And does the United States want to be complicit in genocide . This is a pretty straightforward question. I. All of the rhetoric shows the pain, but also the weakness of the us in this is, are we really simply following the line of the israel lobby . Is that what this is . Or is the president so weak, maybe incapacitated . We dont know that hes not able to effectively be president of the United States. I dont know why, just watch it along with the rest of us and i dont much like what i see. So yes, rhetoric is one thing i and to me blinking has been ringing his hands in pain. Saying we want the israel is to do this and that. And then in the same breath saying, no red lines, no red lines wont come on. Thats complicity in these war crimes. When youre an expert in development and youve been talking a lot about famine conditions, i want our audience to understand what would be possible. If you had a true fam and condition you had true starvation, real starvation. How that scales in terms of the potential casualties of those conditions. Well, 1st let me say that we are seeing a massacre in front of our eyes. It is a is absolutely easy to main. Uh, it is absolutely war crimes. It is arguably, i personally think likely genocidal. According to the legal standards of the 1948 genocide convention. And so all of this is shocking to me that this does go on day by day in full view. We havent had their genocides by captured by your video feed day by day. We have id f forces. These rarely Defense Forces standing. There is psalms up as they blow up, universities, mosques, hospitals, apartment buildings. Its unbelievable. We have members of these really cabinet preaching, hate. We seen these a religious nationalist extremist rabbis talked about killing all the people in gaza and asked, do you mean the children grab . I says yes, the children, they can grow up to be terrors. Were seeing things that are absolutely unconscionable, and we need is railey leaders and intellectuals to stand up and say that is not acceptable for our country and our society and it, were not seeing it, but we need to see that. So this is the 1st point on the scale. Well theres, theres no limit to whats possible because there are hundreds of thousands of people who are profoundly undernourished. Right now. Food rations have been to a minimum or not a rations. Actually, we have seen emaciated children come to the remaining hospitals and died in the hospitals. We see peoples warming be for relief and then being killed. We see people being killed by this novelty of a mirror or dropping the packages and killing people underneath by the weight of these packages fall into the earth. Rather than a decency of opening up a supply line. Busy or food fuel water, which is absolutely a necessity under the conventions of war is real plainly violates day by day. And the us remains complicit. So itd be the scale if, if its real attached rafa where it has pushed the people of gaza. They unbelievable concentration of people in the south. Id say thats where youre safe and then start. So a or an encouraging and to wrap up. God knows how many more thousands, tens of thousands will dine. If there is no aid relief, heaven knows whats going to happen on all of this. And so this isnt something that we should be pondering as an intellectual or forecasting exercise. Its something that should and today, and it could and today it could and by the United States government saying we are not providing the munitions for slaughter period. That what ended israel cannot do this one day without the United States. But all the hand bringing all the complaining, all of the supposed i statements by, by the net, the i was in high school and im quoting him. Im not making that statement. Im quoting what has been in the papers thats meaningless. If we continue to provide the munitions and we have the statements by, by the blinking, that there are no red lines for israel, its meaningless. So its, its really amazing to me that if youre, youre, youre eval all over the world. Talking to leaders all over the world. People are still on this continuing in this way day by day. They dont understand whats happened to the United States of america, israel. They, they, they dont like what they see. Right. But the United States of america, they dont on while i want to, i wanted to ask you a question about your interaction with leaders around the world because i know you interact with him. Ive seen you do this. I mean, just saying as they are looking at what you just said, are apparent, inability or unwillingness to pressure israel to open a road gate to get more substantial supplies, medical and health and food in you know, it. What does that say about the conversations about trying to deliver to a state solution or trying to accomplish anything . I think, are they seeing a centrally or United States that is completely impotent in this . Yes, and what are the ramifications for american credibility globally . Americas isolated, it is a, on the losing end of every vote in the United Nations. We may say, oh, who cares where the United States, you know what its like to be on a boat, where the world says palestine it deserves firms, has the right to political self determination. And for countries in the world for vote against that israel. Naturally, the United States of america, micro needle, which by compact is bound to vote with the us. So its not even a choice. And now right now, room is a very nice island of 12000 people. Thats americas allies. This hurts badly, and so the reputational costs are enormous. But the sense that americas rudderless liter list is very wide spread. Let me ask you about the un relief and works agency for palestine and right. Now 3 countries, canada, sweden in australia, have reversed their positions that they had stopped supporting and right in, in there was an investigation going on looking into potentially 14 individuals who may have conspired or been part of from us when this went on, thats out there. Thats public um united nation. So said it is investigating this been very forward with that. But and right employees to thousands of people, 16000 in gaza alone. Im just interested from your you know, title which is Sustainable Development. Is there any development . Is there any ability to economically support and sustain the people of a palestine after this . If one rush does not get support from the United States, there now is now a bill trying to make american suspension of a permanent actually, im just interested in your thoughts on that front on right. Does her role with work in a the award zone and it has lost a huge number of staff to this war . Is real targets. The United Nations i is really use is the united nation. So as its punching bag and honora has taken the brunt of this, israel make some statement about on. Right. And then all of these politicians run into immediately cut off the a, they see a genocide or massive war crimes going on before their eyes for weeks and weeks and weeks. And they take no action at all. But israel makes a claim about on roth and within hours. The aid is cut off. Is the word is shambolic, meaning the to be shamed. The idiocy of these politicians as they scurried around to try to win favour with this lobby. A map lobby is disgraceful. Thats all it is. This is they, they play a game in their politics where its life and death by the hour. Thats really at stake. And the attack on, on roy is despicable action by israel. Which of course should know better on that account. But its a country after all of its just killed 31000 people, most of the women and children. So it doesnt seem to know right from wrong on many other things as well. What are your thoughts, jeff . On the appointment of someone, i imagine, you know, mohammed, most of us, the new Prime Minister of the palestinian authority, passing the 40 from my book is an interesting organization. Because in a way, part of his job is to manage the occupation of palestine. You know, under israel, in, in, in a certain way, but also to look in the past. Any interest. But youve got another World Bank Economist who is now in the mix here. What are the um, blind spots of that, or what are the opportunities . Well, the opportunity is the following. Every bodys other than israel, everybody in the world including the United States, says we need the 2 state solution implemented. This is actually even the United States, this is Chuck Schubert present and by base say it. Okay, lets do it, because this has been talked about for decades. We dont need any more piece process. We dont need any more discussion. We need to implement what is already International Law in the form of repeated Un Security Council resolutions and Un General Assembly resolutions. My recommendation to cut through this here is that the United Nations immediately recognize the state of palestine as the 100 and 94th un member state with capital in East Jerusalem with the pre 1967 borders. And that we dont say that thats the end point of some vague Peace Process which has been the dame and the claim for decades. But that is what is needed for peace. Now, interestingly, in september 2011, palestine, which is a state recognized by a 140 countries, but it is not a un member state applied to the United Nations for membership. And when that happens, it goes to a Membership Committee that these constituted by the members of the Un Security Council. And that Membership Committee looked at the qualifications of palestine, looked at the claim and said, yes, this is a valid application. But the United States, of course, blocked it and talked the palestinians into accepting a un observer status. That was 13 years ago. They set up a time by the way to the palestinians. You dont com, itll come give us time. The United States is not an honest broker in this, the United States has been an agent of israel. Israel absolutely is blocking the 2 state solution that the whole rest of the world wants and that is International Law. And so my recommendation is vote the 2 state solution, the United States, my recommendation. Dont block what you say you want. Well then lets move to it. Well, let me ask you about that part of a palace on the west bank that, that has, you know, i think broadly, people see often either a mazda is not in control, but you have re, 1476 new home units that have just been approved in the middle of this crisis. I would say you have harassment. You have detentions, you have checkpoints, you have ongoing land fads, you have, you have that area of it. So many of these countries have recognizes the state under that sort of control and management of bias really of Security Forces right now. And thats not from us running the show as it was in gaza. What is the, what are we missing in this equation, jeff . So what were missing is that starting at 1970 is real deliberately and illegally began to occupy. Itd begin to settle in the palestinian territories. And i, i 1st saw this and learned a bit, a 197252 years ago. This was what at the time was called the alone plan. The idea was, well, you know, it may be illegal, but were going to do it any way because we, meaning israel will make facts on the ground. And they started this illegal settler movement. And it grew and its now hundreds of thousands and it became a major extremist political movement. And a religious extremist nationalist movement with representation like a a bed is allow it as well. A smoke rich in the cabinet who is one of the most extreme is politicians in israels history. And of course, thats the goal. They do not want any palestinian state, but thats illegal. And to run an apartheid state or an ethnic cleansing, or a genocide or whatever they have in their minds, which is, who knows, it will never lead to peace. And thats what were talking about right now. So what are we do with it . Its clear, this is an extremist, is really government that does not want a palestinian state. And the whole rest of the world says the only route to peace is a 2 state solution. And my view is, we cant leave this to israel palestine negotiations. We know what thats going to deliver. We need to put in place, but to state solution. Thats a vote that couldnt happen today at the Un Security Council today. Well, well have to leave it there. I really appreciate your candor, Columbia University professor jeffrey sachs. Thanks so much for joining us. Great to be with you. Thank you. So whats the bottom line . Well have for a year into a war where israel has killed tens of thousands of innocent people and destroyed the infrastructure of a closed off area with roughly the population of an american states like connecticut in direct talks between hamas and israel are ongoing. With the biggest and most influential player, and all of this is the United States, which is simultaneously shipping bombs with no conditions on their use and taking 2 months to build a port of entry into gaza to deliver supplies, food, and medical. But lets just face it were desperately needed, months ago, like the president s before him, 5 and sees and one and the risks of allowing israel to continue with war. And then the other hand, the political consequences of stopping it, especially in an election year. When will he decide that one out ways, the other, thats when the war will end. And thats the bottom line. The, the east timor use of storage, the catholic nation, but scandals involving high profile priests. Plague the charge of us goes back. We were all abused. Its almost the countrys talk, the just openly stopped by the clerics, even after one was sent to prison. 101 east investigate east t most priest candles on out just sierra in the land of palestine. 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This is exactly the kind of thing. It is real discharge israels motives or clear rate campuses suppress students, fresh hopes for a Better Future by trying to deplete power. Steins greatest resource. Its people of bruce, coal occupation resulting in a her wrist take your time. Ill just say it was investigated units tara gates, the evidence, and reveals voltage presented to the world to justify these rails the soaps on garza, dozens of children bound them up during them and executed them. This information has been used by official supports person october 7th. On tuesday or years from ill just say on the go and meet tonight out is there is only mobile app. Is that the, this is where we just fix allies from out is there is a mobile app available in your favorite top to just set for it and typed on a new app from out to 0 new at you think is it the israel strikes in a distribution point in northern gauze, as warnings grow about the di, shortage of food across the street. 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