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Dave Ramsey your host this is your show America thank you for joining us open for a triple like 8 to 52 to 5 you jump in we'll talk about your life and your money Triple 88255225. Kyle is one of those in Great Bend Kansas. David you know him better than I deserve what's up. With a lot of the dog to you to know well my wife is doing this multi-level business thing and. Just keep dumping money into it. I don't think it's going anywhere and I came here to quit no money into it. Our standard it's not making money she's spending money. There probably since she started it is only over a $1000.00 and. It's supposed to be building her stock she said to make a business. I don't know where to go with how much I should hold. I have seen probably $20.00 come back out of it. So why is she not selling anything. She says you've got to build it up or more now she doesn't know dropship turning have a turn today. And besides that are down lines probably are up on from I got a garage full of it that I'd love to sell or. Say Yeah you're heavily invested enough end of this that. You know a Aside from the fact that your wife which complicates things are right but in a business analysis. You know if this was a sales person working for me I would say no we're not spending any more money on this campaign until you actually sell something and you've got to you know you're out to sell your way out of this hole and that's a reasonable response I mean by that nose in there at multi level knows that she needs to be out there selling and recruiting. That she needs to be doing both and if she's going to make it. Most people don't make it most people don't make it in business but most people don't make it in multilevel. As a high fall out ratio a very high fall out ratio and I don't want to end up with erasure full of stuff when she does quit so she needs to you know. She's get out there and make some sales. Now how to convince her of that sort of thing but I you know. I think I think this is a discussion like you know let's say that you are. Spend all your money spend all the household money on hunting gear you know and you're going to oh well you know I'm going to we're going to need a lot of deer of this when are you know you need to kill one son you know because you don't you have. A rifle here so you need to you know it's the same kind of thing you know what amounts to you don't have a business to jointly put money in the business that you only put money is not a business it's a hobby. So I think the 2 of you have got to come to some conclusions the problem is that you're facing is how long you've been married. For years and. The problem that you're facing is that people's and those the asm inside of a multilevel gets so high that sometimes they suspend good judgment and and some of these things will actually try to drive a wedge between a lady and her husband and go Well your husband just to understand but we've got your back. As if you're some kind of because you don't get there multi-level hype you follow me and you're not so I you've actually got a good head on your shoulders and you're accurately saying this I'm not saying the multilevel is completely invalid I'm saying that she's being hyped and it's blinding her and she needs to go make some real sales to prove that this thing is real. And if she can't prove that it's real She needs to get out of the business if she can prove that Israel and you know let's say she brings in 5 or $10000.00 a lot think you'd be Ok with investing some money in that business wouldn't you yeah I would toes of the dad blame things where you'll go prove it but otherwise it's a bunch of smoke and mirrors and yap and and that's true in any business that's true of any business whether it's multilevel or not I mean it's like she just took a job with a quote regular company and they just told her every day how much she was going to sell and she never sold anything you know how long before she'd figure that out right. So she needs to make some sales and she needs to recruit some people on her stock is not her problem. That's not our problem at all she had made the sales and she had recruited anybody and if she starts doing that she can prove that this multilevel is real but I gotta tell you man you're out to get him but you have to let her realize you are on her team and more than the multilevel up line is on her team you love her more than they love her and you know you've got to get back in between them and you not to drive them away but to keep them from driving you away . So I make sense. Or if you're running into it you're running into a lot of emotion aren't you. Oh yeah. I thought I thought I could smell that so that's what I'm saying now again I'm not saying the multilevel is not good I'm saying she hadn't sold anything it may or may not be good that's yet to be proven this particular one the she's in but but she's not any good at it yet. And it is not lack of stock that's just complete b.s. And that's her up line trying to sell or some stuff she's the only sale they're making they need to go make some sales and some real sales in a real world business model and if you do that then you can prove the validity of your multi-level plan but otherwise it's just a bunch of crap and it's a bunch of hype and you know you've got decide which it is and honestly there are some of both going on here open phones a triple 882552255 the way those of you that are multi level some of you are in such that you got your head stuck so far up your multi level that you didn't hear a thing I said all you heard was negative because you're in a freakin cult mentality and so if you're one of those in a freakin cult mentality jump in the Crake I could care less what you think Ok but if you're a legitimate multi level operator I didn't just say multi-level are all bad if you're a legitimate operator you don't have to hype some housewife and drive a wedge between her and her husband for you to win a chair business that's just pushed right up evil and wrong crap and those of us that aren't in your little deal are sick of you when you come at us with your little cult mentality so jump in a creek if you don't like it if you're in one is legitimate you're really doing some good stuff I'm fine with that I got no issue I got several friends are doing some really cool stuff the beach body team is doing some really cool stuff I'll a. 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Is most trusted senior care provider and host of Senior right here on News Radio don't forget to How can I help. Right now 20 years old. About $20000.00. $18000.00 of. Credit card and I don't make a lot of make right about 3331 year depending how much overtime I work so no wonder exactly what's the best route so I. Just quickly. Well there's 2 or 3 components to this one is the 1st step is to get on a written budget each month a written game plan where every dollar has an assignment because managed money is more efficient you'll find that you'll feel like you got a raise when you start doing that you can do that with our online budgeting tool for free at every dollar dot com. And the app is free for your i Phone if you have one then then the 2nd thing is you walk what we call the baby steps because we've learned that when you focus on something you can do it but when you try to focus on 10 things you can't do any of it Ok so focus on one thing in the 1st thing is you squeeze every dollar out of your budget that you can find free while paying minimum payments on your pay. Months until you get a $1000.00 saved a bug ganar rainy day fund a starter rainy day fund. Only a 1000 to start with then you to list your debts smallest to largest You pay minimum payments on everything but the little $1.00 and I want you to attack the little one with a vengeance I want you have a garage sale in which you take 3 extra jobs I want to sell so much stuff the dog shotting Ok get engaged or get fired up and wired up I mean over time delivering pizzas cutting grass I don't care whatever you can do to make money is legal get after it and kick your income up and your work hours away up temporarily to be able to get this stuff kicked in the teeth fast because there's nothing in your with your income a $1000.00 a month changes the figures dramatically. From a part time something now paying off the smallest debt which is going to a credit card and pay off your smallest debt 1st you're cutting up all the credit cards are never going to use them again you can't get out of a hole while digging out the bottom and when the literal is when the little one is paid off you take the payment you used to pay there and anything else we can squeeze out of your life and we dump it on the number 2 debt when that's paid off you've got yet more money freed up the snowball rolls over again it picks up more snow and you attack number 3 and you keep squeezing every dollar out of your life until you can do that so with $20000.00 if you raise your income by a $1000.00 a month by working like a crazy man and got up to 40 that would put you at $45000.00 you would be debt free in a little over a year right around the year probably 12 or 14 months Ok that's Ok well here's what I'm doing Ok 12000 dollars a year is $1000.00 a month right you owe $25.00 of the 20 I just got rid of 12 so out of your existing income I need you to get another 8 squeezed out and that does it in 12 months. Ok that's why that's why I said 12 to 18 it's very doable you have no life during this year that you're not eating out if you go on a date it's at the park with a Frisbee Ok. You know and that's what you're doing and so I mean because you know you're And by the way you know a man that gets control of his money and as a destiny is highly attractive because there's so few of them left. That's a good points man thanks for the golf. Open phones a triple 825-5225 Brenda is with us in Kansas City Hi Brenda how are you trying to game I have one. How can I help 6. Ok 60 year old I want to retire but I don't have but how do you credit a lot of Bill and my coffee or you know absolutely I didn't hear the last part but I have. Windows Why does it need Windows. They are all out and if I have to I think I don't think I have forgotten oh yeah you probably need Windows Ok yeah I do know so I've got a bit on the windows I haven't yet I don't know what to do well you can get a bit on it gather up information what do you make you're sure I got 43 Ok and how much is the home equity line. I have a crime. How many square feet is your home. Ok let's pretend that the windows are 6 I just made that up at my table might not be right but I'm just making that I don't architect I do that all the only have 6 windows Yes Oh then it won't be 6000 and they'd be more like 4000 Ok or less right so in your car why do you need to replace your car what's wrong with it when you have. Well Ok So much so I wanted to check into I can tell you Leon I have that check does that work. Safe too tired I just think about it we've got to do it. And want more sort of what is it or what is it worth if you sold it by car. Probably about I don't know maybe salvage say again. Maybe 300-3000. Or 7 Ford Ok Do you have any money saved No I do not. Have any my save for retirement. Yes I knew how much they're going to shake. Ok And you said you're 60 as I would you said yes I am and you're single. Are you and your single Yes Ok I don't know if there are any Well I think what you've got to do is just decide which of these you're going to do 1st because you need to do all 3. I'm in agreement with needing to do them it's just a matter of which one you want or need to do 1st and you know what's going to help you on your journey the most. I you know again like the last caller I'm probably going to try to get your income up as much as I can in your out go down so we can accomplish all 3 of these because 4000 dollars cash added to the car that you have will put you in a pretty decent automobile and so if we use that and we use 4 for the windows that's a an 11 puts us at 19 so you need $20000.00 while making $43.00. Ok And so if we did that in 2 years that's $10000.00 a year out of your $43.00 so you should be able to do this easily and 10 years I'd like to accelerate it and do the ball 3 of these things faster than 2 years that. While I do you have expected part time job I work I was dirty jobs under turned out to pay my house. You know and my house you know now it's going through my life threatening. Your house payment is going to your what line of credit Ok and how much is your house payment and it was only $300.00 Ok. But so so basically what I'm saying is if you do something like a $1000.00 a month toward the east 3 things they're going to be done in under 2 years if you do more than if you do $2000.00 a month you'll be done in under a year. You know that would be also doubt that they can you find $2000.00 in your budget by either working extra selling things or whatever but what you need to do is gather up information on. The price of cars that you want to move to what your car is worth so you got to save the difference you need to get some bids on the windows are not going to do the work today you got to say about the money to do it get some bits on that and then we know the other figure it's $11000.00 then we know your income is currently $43.00 child we just start to lay that down in a game plan and say All right we're going to attack one of these and get it done which one is it and I'm going to I'm going to save up and move up in car and when I get that done. Then I'm going to finish off the home equity loan I want to get both of those down then I'm going to put the windows and or monitor the windows far's I don't care but you need to lay out in order of which one is going 1st and then began to attack them. Ok what I thought about this too hard my windows What if I got. A lot of company. You know if you don't want me and you know the interest rate that you asked Dave Ramsey to borrow money. I'm. 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Monica still struggled with you know while the role of the stepfather Jerry parsley said they knew about her struggle with addiction but her family believed she would recover and one weekend she checked herself out of rehab to spend the night with a friend the call to Monica's mother carrying partially when Tommy was only 10 and a half. Months lavish Ok a shame that you days later Veronica's pronounced dead from a heroin overdose she was gone or dollars she was dumped in day it was Veronica and parents warn tomorrow it could be your child in fact insane one. Painting your child. Maybe seen spirit a Ramsey here and you are on k r d o usual Radio one o 5.5 f.m. 12 40 am and 92.5 f.m. . Please Alex are with us I want to. Welcome welcome where you guys from we're from St Louis Missouri very cold Well welcome to Nashville we're honored to have you with us so you're here to do a debt free scream Yes and how much have you paid off you paid off $80000.00 Dave. And how long did that take felt like forever but a list 33 months 33 months that's close to forever and your range of income during that time we started at a $100000.00 a year and are now at $120000.00 the air great very cool shot you get a raise and you heard the economy was bad guy Who are you going to go there it is very cool what I'll do for a living I am a legal assistant and I'm an aerospace engineer of course you are Ok we have a rocket scientist on the side yes I love it good Good job guys very fine so what kind of debt was the $82000.00 a day and that was our mortgage you paid off your house yes you are going to. Say you're not old enough to have a paid for 2 for $26.00. How does so what's the house worth it's about a $110000.00 nothing fancy but it's ours that's paid for by you know I'm not we're not talking this down it's paid for that's right oh you very very cool man so what in the world inspire you a 26 years old to have a paid for house. And this happened 33 months ago so you start working on this and like 23 Yeah my sister actually introduced us here plan and. We had just gotten the condo and I shared a story with Alex when I was 8 years old my mom paid off her house and that story stayed in my heart forever so I thought Do I want to paid for a house too yeah wow so Alex how did what was your reaction when you hear that you did you not say like other people do well so what everybody's got to. I just thought that was amazing and you know over the years of our marriage everything closer to saw his mom than I've seen you know how God has blessed there and I know that it's paying off and where he is that many years ago just help set her up so much for now you know years later an hour ago we can follow in her footsteps so what's her 1st name my mom is Gloria Gloria so I'm guessing Gloria is one of those people that is just wise. Really just the wisdom and that witnessed her you knew it was this a wise person then this wise person paid off her house and I left a mark on her daughter saw me and that's what you were saying and I guess I'm like yeah Yes very cool that's very good I can just kind of see her face right now wow that's an a that is very very neat you know I don't know if I've ever heard the story told this way I've often told people when they bring their little kids in here to their dad for a screaming kid is standing here that you change their family tree but that's what your mom did she left a mark on you when she paid that house off so do you or what do you remember about that that's interesting I remember raisin beans and potatoes for 2 years and I remember being told that I was going to get it one day Ok All right you get the house one day that I was going to understand why she was doing well you want to understand it Yeah Ok I want you to get the house you know you will someday probably but oh my gosh wow Ok you may not. Now but you'll understand later yeah as the man now but then there were some did I celebrate or what was that how did you remember that being 8 years old being the specific time that was paid off honestly I think that a lot of things changed around the house I remember my mom being a lot more relaxed and that ease and just that kind of peace. And that stuck with an 8 year old yes I love this because when I tell people they're changing their family trees this illustrates that for these parents out there that are listening there on your mom's side of the equation you know and they're looking at that 8 year old in the face that's you can see Kid grown up now and I'm such a legacy that is so powerful I love it love it what a great testimony to her so what did you all do to get out of bed and $33.00 much $82000.00 was impressive in 33 months Yeah Alex and I delivered pizza. And there is ice engineer bring me my pizza Yeah I say really funny we have a little nephew who is thinking about engineering and when he was we were delivering pizzas he says I'm not sure if I want to do engineering anymore you have to deliver people. Alarm. Bonds or you left a mark on him the most years ago but. Yeah it's good so you worked extra How much did you make delivering pizzas in a month average. If you did it. To me but he would deliver in our. Neighborhood so I would see him yeah it was it was a few 100 days by I was also going to grad school part time so I pretty much had nights and weekends Ok just a few 100 but it did help a little bit and not only that but just being strategic I mean one of the biggest sacrifices Dave is so when he walks to work every day oh and that was huge for us is still is huge for us how far oh it's about a mile Oh just a mile Yeah Ok. It's Ok it's very fluid forming the winner. How you guys are impressed if you are a President this is a glorious got to be had here. Very cold this is very Nate very good but what's the hardest part of the 3 of those 33 months. It was probably knowing that we could be spending so much more and not doing so we have very basic phones we got made fun of. Those basic phone. No cable and I don't think we're going to get cable but. Well you make 820000 hours or you know. I mean if you want to Ok a little better phone you're ready now you have like no one else now you can lay of and give like no one else well I'm impressed you guys are very very Your heroes you're absolutely amazing 26 years old paid for houses and you could have been out there spending like a crazy yuppie all over the place I mean you all could have been because you made you make the normal money are little better than normal money and man you could've killed it you could've gone into a real disaster instead you turned it the other way yeah and you're going to be so wealthy it's amazing. Because you're in control and you're obviously in communication with each other about this just very well done all right we're going to give you a signed copy of Chris Hogans retire inspired book number one bestseller and that's the next chapter is to continue to build wealth and give and you're going to be wealthy and I'm going to come out at the commercial break and sign a legacy journey book for Gloria because she has left a legacy I mean this is pretty incredible I like her and every matter. That is very very cool stuff very neat All right it's Alex Encel Any us St Louis Missouri 88. Paid off every varying making did that over 33 months making 102120 count it down let's hear a debt free scream 36 do one. Very very well done. Well there it is there's the proof the proof is in the putting right and an 8 year old little girl went and paid off her house when she's 26 years old making 120000 living in a 120000 our house 110000 our house. 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A show Lisa next in Reno Nevada Lisa how are you. Are being taken by car and I can't stand and hear the reason that made. About the payouts are the more you get. For that but I would say that and I know what we'd like to do is the thing that's been cast so we could try to rent for property to add to our retirement savings that we already pay out a lot of it Mike I think and how in the we are to save that cat and if we don't plan to increase the 15 percent that we're currently putting into retirement we can think about that past that year or we could just keep it at that they pay it or you don't own a house by many more. Truly you know we were also trying to cash flow are so in college. And so we are going to be putting more money over the next 2 years not going to have. 3 inch How is the overlapping at the same time so I don't even need to cancel their holiday now. I do want to borrow but I've personally been slow down the 15 percent I had cash flow the college and then just watch what happens with the income whatever money you can throw at the Baba House plan that's fine because say you're a baby step 7 now baby step 7 is max out all retirement and if you didn't want to do that and you want to hold only at 15 percent and throw what would have been maxing out retirement towards buying a house or in a house that be fine but I want to keep at least 15 percent going into mutual funds for that retirement build up because you're going to want that in addition to the rental house what'll happen because what's going to happen how do you gosh where 47 Ok what will happen is when you're 67 the track you're on 20 years from now is you're going to be very very heavy real estate. And I'm trying to keep that from being so heavy and have a little in. Way heavy real estate and the reason is I just roll stuff into real estate and I just kept funding my for a one k. But the amount of money that's gone into for a one k. In these last few years as I got past the edge of the curve and there's just lots of money being able to thrown into investments is on the internet real heavy in real estate because the 15 percent is nothing hardly You see what I mean right now the president's everything but I'm trying to keep you from ending up 90 percent real estate in your portfolios not that evil about that but I just want more diversification than that so let's hold 15 percent let's do the kids' college anything else we can find will throw it gladly and what I've done there is I just opened up an s. And p. $500.00 index fund that's a no load fund and I just throw money in there and when there's enough money on our family to buy another property I buy another property out of that cash that usually that money sits around there for a year maybe $2.00 the 1st time you do it and that right it's subject to long term capital gains so any growth that it does have is only going to be taxed at 15 percent and have pretty good growth usually depend on what the market's doing but you can make some money that way so I'm going to be a 15 percent plus kids college plus anything else I can find him or start throwing on an s. And p. And we're just going to call that the real estate fund real estate savings and investment plan and you'll get yours from real estate and in some of those kids clear college you're going to be so used to throwing money at those universities you're going to throw money in that fund and buy those left and right you'll be able to. You'll be amazed and course the more houses you get the more cash flow you have the faster you buy more houses and so had the whole thing just snowballs to your favor now that you've learned to control money why did God man you're killin it 47 of the paid for this is paid for house our I like it very cool the couple's 26 this is good stuff you guys this is what happens when you decide to take control of your money that's the deal Holly is with us in Orlando Hi Holly how are you. Doing Rob thank you so much for taking my call it's a privilege to talk to you know you too what's up. I want to ask you how encouraged by Have we been on the f.p.u. Program or excuse me 14 months and we live moment 10 baby set to and train from there had encouraged by have been trying to move forward since we had to hit her you had to hit pause. I'm 13 weeks training then I did and then I have in the past 2 months and were 2000 dollars out of pocket medical bills. And then just a variety of other major expenses coming our way in the next few months and he would not excited about it people at all I literally had to take him to go to class and I created a monster out of him. I'm confused what do you mean you create a monster you mean it was me body when he bought in the body and all that. Absolutely I said why isn't his courage then he's going to stop right now to take care of his wife and unborn child right. And we were going to we're I'm going fix $1000.00 away from. A law school that you know and so it's pushing it out and he's like it doesn't look like we're making as much harder because you're not. All right we heard more pollen out money for a pregnancy right and had shared some unseen hits I mean I I listen he's you know want to do you don't want to encourage this guy he's not all slow down you're going to be fine just I don't know what you tell a mother then the 2 of you just sit down and look at it and go hey babies and Family is why the flip we're doing all of this where they are just so we when as a family we weren't doing it to occur during some artificial bell we were doing it to change our family tree that involves having a tree. So you know you were stopping and taking care of mom and baby that's what life is all about how and it's a temporary it's temporary it's temporary it's temporary I mean all the only delay I'm hearing here is about 23 months right there about 6 months. You know but I mean the money's all going to be piled up when the baby comes in here just write a check. But that's what were anticipating so I'm not sure why anybody's discouraged here Ok I wouldn't be a big one I just have a different goal my goal isn't tech baby and Mama and as soon as that says By becomes a Mama's here Ok and baby's Ok when Pola my eyes thing to make out with pay off law school debt bone we never even lost any ground right so I think part of it he's also concerned because we had this a while before we got married. At that point I would stay home we grew our family and everything so just looking at wanting to pay what does seem. Or does he make. Me $75.00 and then we are going to d.c. For his settled and then. Looking forward to. And becoming a federal judge in the next couple of years blah Well I don't pay 75 that pays a lot more in that so I'll have an aggressive down very cool good for you guys not here's the deal here's the deal just you just have. You just your goals are just going to come out in different things and listen if you guys want to do what you want to do I'm Ok with it at the Ramsey house if we trade paying cash for a house later in order for mom to be home with kids and that's what mom wants to do we'll make that a trade every time babies overstuff every time. And we did make that trade by the way. Sharon stayed home with our kids and that she could have made good money you know and so we made a tradeoff on that and what does that do automatically mathematically it slows down financial goals worked out Ok I got great kids. You know it's Ok you get a house you know your kids it all comes out in due time just it's just a matter of if you're his little plan didn't work out exactly like he thought Well welcome to life. He's going to be Ok this guy is a smart guy he's a hard drive and guy you just keep looking past 20 minutes from now and that keeps you encouraged That's all I know to tell you I think you don't smart stuff on the Get on the right stuff and I think you're right on track and you can tell him I said so if that encourages him I don't know if it matters or not but if it does have added because that's the truth I think you're right on track you're not going to slow down you're going to have lots of things you can do it's Oh Ok it's Ok. The best laid plans of mice and men you know things change and babies are more important than any of that other stuff we're talking about the rest of us just stuff get your stuff but don't trade stuff for babies oh my goodness no never do that never. Open our this is the Dave Ramsey Show Tim is on Twitter would you ever consider opening a bank I don't trust anyone would you trust me. 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