what about, though, the fact that at that stage we're now in the early eighties, liverpool is run by a militant with a capital m. in other words, derek hatton of the militant tendency who was alienated from the labour party and the enemy of margaret thatcher. what do you make of him at the time? if you want to know what not to do in life, how not to run things in life, how not to behave in life, you know, he's the guy. i have nothing really good to say about him. and you came across him, though, once, didn't you? idid. they were opening a wine bar. jack's in huyton, and there aren't that many wine bars there. i think it's fair to say there was none. there was just pubs and it was a room in a hotel. and my jackie was there, we were going in and there was a guy there. it was quite astonishing because there was a jag outside with a driver in and there was a guy at the door sort of saying hello to everybody with champagne. moet, you never saw champagne in in huyton in knowsley

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