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Has been published in the last couple of hours. Reaction is still coming in but we have already heard from some of the families of the victims. They have called for criminal prosecutions. A Human Life was never a priority, and we lost friends, neighbours and Loved Ones in the most horrific way, through greed, corruption, incompetence and negligence. Also on the programme this lunchtime. More migrants trying to cross the channel from france, despite 12 deaths yesterday. Channel from france, despite 12 deaths yesterday. State pensions look set to rise deaths yesterday. State pensions look set to rise by deaths yesterday. State pensions look set to rise by more deaths yesterday. State pensions look set to rise by more than deaths yesterday. State Pensions L Look set to rise by more than £400 deaths yesterday. State pensions look set to rise by more than £400 a year as the row continues over scrapping automatic Winter Fuel payments. And it is the same old Story Dame Sarah storey strikes gold yet again at the paralympics in paris. And Coming Up on Bbc News Jack draper prepares for the biggest match of his life with a first appearance in a grand Slam Quarterfinal to come at the Us Open. Good afternoon. The Grenfell Tower Report says all the deaths were avoidable. The report says there were Decades Of Failure, while successive governments ignored, delayed or disregarded concerns about safety. It accuses Cladding Manufacturers of Systematic Dishonesty. Here is our correspondent graham satchell. It is seven years, two months and 20 days since the fire at Grenfell Tower. 0n the streets faded with time, memorials to the 72 people who lost their lives, and questions which today, finally, are being answered. The public Inquiriess Report is 1700 pages long. It concludes. The fire was the result of Decades Of Failure by governments, and the Construction Industry, stretching back to the 19905. , ,. , 19905. The simple truth is that the deaths that occurred 19905. The simple truth is that the deaths that occurred were 19905. The simple truth is that the deaths that occurred were all deaths that occurred were all avoidable, and those who lived in The Tower were badly failed, over a number of years, and in a number of different ways, by those who were responsible for ensuring the safety of the building and its occupants. Grenfell tower was refurbished in 2016. It was covered in insulatiOn And cladding, the grey panels seen here. The cladding was by far the largest contributor to the fire. The inquiry says its makers knew it was, stubble, and were engaged in what it calls Systematic Dishonesty. The inquiry found faults with the companies that produced the insulation used in the refurbishment, saying both made misleading claims about their products. The web of companies and organisations that oversaw the refurbishment are also criticised, the architects, contractors and subcontractors all share responsibility, it says, in what the inquiry because an unedifying Merry Go Round of buckpassing. There had been previous warnings that cladding used on high rise blocks was dangerous. A fire in South London in 2009 killed six people. A decade earlier a fire swept through a Tower Block in north ayrshire. The inquiry says there were many opportunities to take action. When the Coalition Government came in, in 2010, ministers were told to cut Red Tape to free up business. The inquiry says this dominated thinking to such an extent that even matters affecting safety of life were ignored, delayed or disregarded. The Fire Service is also criticised as complacent for not planning and training for high rise fires and for not changing its Tape Put Policy sooner. Forthe not changing its Tape Put Policy sooner. For the families and survivors of Grenfell Tower, the inquiry paints a complex picture of collective failure every level. Stay put policy. Collective failure every level. Stay put Policy Stay put policy. Human life was never a Priority Stay put policy. Human life was never a priority and stay put policy. Human life was never a priority and we stay put policy. Human life was never a priority and we lost never a priority and we lost friends, neighbours and Loved Ones in the most horrific way, through greed, corruption, incompetence and negligence. The recommendations published today are basic safety principles that should already exist. ,. ,. ,. ,. , exist. On railings at the foot of The Tower. Exist. On railings at the foot of The Tower, the exist. On railings at the foot of The Tower, the names exist. On railings at the foot of The Tower, the names of exist. On railings at the foot of The Tower, the names of the i exist. On railings at the Foot Ofi The Tower, the names of the 72 people who were killed. Still, no one has been held responsible for their deaths. 72 innocent people killed by incompetence, Dishonesty And Greed. And still, the wait for justice Goes On. Graham satchell, Bbc News. It is more than seven years since the disaster. This is what remains of Grenfell Tower Now. It is a daily reminder of the 72 victims of the fire there. Our correspondent Tom Symonds has been at the inquiry this morning. Talk us through some of the reaction to that report . Weill. Morning. Talk us through some of the reaction to that report . Reaction to that report . Well, ben, if ou are reaction to that report . Well, ben, if you are going reaction to that report . Well, ben, if you are going to reaction to that report . Well, ben, if you are going to look reaction to that report . Well, ben, if you are going to look at reaction to that report . Well, ben, if you are going to look at this if you are going to look at this report and look for the person or the company or the organisation, or even the government, that is entirely or mainly responsible for the deaths of those in 72 people, you wont find it in this massive report, because this was a systemic failure, a failure from top to bottom and across the board. And so, lots of companies find themselves accused this morning, or this afternoon, in this report. The main one that i think well get a lot of Chatter And Discussion is the company that made the cladding used for the outside of the building, it was the main source of the fire spreading. They still deny this lunchtime that they sold an unsafe product. They say that what made it unsafe was the way it was used in the refurbishment at grenfell and other projects. The company which made the insulation also has a similar position, saying that decisions about the design, Construction And Selection of materials were made by Construction Industry professionals. Kingspan, which made a small amount of the insulation on the Grenfell Tower, said that it had made all sorts of changes to its business because of historical failings changes to its business because of historicalfailings in changes to its business because of historical failings in the changes to its business because of historicalfailings in the past. We have had a response from the London Fibre gay, who say that they have revamped their procedures over the years since grenfell and that that has saved hundreds of lives. And the police, as graham said in his report, there will not be prosecutions in this case for some time, that is because the police took a decision at the beginning of this case to delay prosecutions while the inquiry did its work. It is a highly complicated process, there is lots of detailed evidence that comes out of it, and the police say, we need 12 18 months from Now to consider what we do next. But the police say, we will be as thorough and diligent in our investigation, while moving as swiftly as possible. This will lead to the strongest possible evidence being presented to the crown prosecution service, the police say, we own it to those that died and all of those affected by the tragedy. I have been talking to many of the people who have been directly affected by this fire. They say, this is what we expected. We have sat through those hearings, we have sat through those hearings, we have heard this evidence, we kNow a lot of what is in this report. But they are pleased, i think, they feel it is hard hitting, they Now wait forjustice, that has always been the thing that they wanted most of all. Just a final thought about The Tower itself, there is a Memorial Commission which is looking at what the future of that building and that piece of land might be. Lots of people in the community do want a fitting tribute to those who died. Tom symonds, thank you very much. And the Prime Minister, sir Keir Starmer, has been giving his reaction to the report our political Correspondent Nick Eardley is At Westminster for us. Correspondent Nick Eardley is At Westminsterfor us. What Correspondent Nick Eardley is At Westminster for us. What has the Prime Minister been saying, nick . Ben, among the litany of criticism that you were just hearing Tom Talk about, there is some really significant and considerable criticism of how successive governments failed in their duties when it came to fire safety. The report talks about, from the mid 90s, missed opportunities to identify risks and to act on them, significant criticism in particular of what used to be the department for communities and local government, saying it was badly run, that its attitude was complacent and defensive, in particular, there was also criticism of the Coalition Government under david cameron, for its deregulation agenda. It saw, this report says, Red Tape as a bad thing, and that dominated thinking, to the extent that safety was sometimes disregarded. The Prime Minister this lunchtime has been speaking to mps about the report, about what the government will do next, saying that he was promising the victims of the grenfell fire justice, and issuing this apology. It should never have happened. The country it should never have happened. The country failed to discharge its most fundamental duty, to protect you and your loved fundamental duty, to protect you and your Loved Ones. The people that we are here your Loved Ones. The people that we are here to your Loved Ones. The people that we are here to serve. And i am deeply sorry are here to serve. And i am deeply sor. ,. , sorry. The Prime Minister also talked about sorry. The Prime Minister also talked about visiting sorry. The Prime Minister also talked about visiting grenfell. Talked about visiting grenfell recently and being moved by what he saw there to the extent that he says is a profound and personal determination to make changes. This, of course, ben, is not the first apology we have heard from politicians, it may well not be the last, we may see more of that in the coming days as well. And as ever, with apologies like this, with promises that justice will with apologies like this, with Promises Thatjustice will be delivered, it is the actions of government that will ultimately be judged by the families. Nick Ea Rd ley, eardley, thank you very much indeed. More migrants have been trying to cross the channel from france this morning, despite the deaths of 12 People Yesterday when their dinghy capsized. A pregnant woman and six children were among the dead. Up to 65 people were rescued. 0ur Correspondent Hugh Schofield has the latest. Just up the coast from boulogne this morning, another group of migrants makes haste to get aboard. French police give chase, but once boats are loaded and in the water, policy is not to intervene. So, another Human Cargo sets off for the english coast. Yesterday, thats how things would have started, too, for the group of mainly eritrean migrants. But theirjourney ended not in an english el dorado, but in disaster and death. Their overloaded boat started to come apart. The swift arrival of french rescuers saved many lives, but 12 drowned, most of them women. Hungry for a new life, migrants keep arriving here on the french coast, bent on crossing the water to england, and they dont seem deterred by the growing number of boats that are sinking and people that are dying. So far this year, more than 21,000 people have made it across the channel in small boats. Thats more than in the same period last year, but fewer than in 2022. The number of people drowned this year is Now at least 37, compared to 12 for 2023. The fault, says the mayor, is the overcrowding of boats by unscrupulous traffickers, and it cant be allowed to go on. Translation either the uk| completely closes its border, or they do something to make the crossing safer, because we cant keep exposing to such risk all these Freedom Loving Men And Women who fled war and whose one desire is to reach england. 0ver his shoulder out at sea, another odyssey is unfolding. Under the eyes of the french navy, another migrant boat is edging its way up the coast to england. Hugh schofield, Bbc News, boulogne in northern france. Hugh schofield joins us live Now from the french coast. And it seems hundreds more people, according to some reports, trying to make the crossing today, despite what happened yesterday . Indeed. As we re orted happened yesterday . Indeed. As we reported there. Happened yesterday . Indeed. As we reported there, just happened yesterday . Indeed. As we reported there, just from happened yesterday . Indeed. As we reported there, just from where happened yesterday . Indeed. As we reported there, just from where we | reported there, just from where we are sitting this morning, standing, this morning, doing interviews, we looked out to sea and there was that boat with the navy patrol trailing, making its way across the channel. Further up the coast, Reuters Tv were out and got those pictures of people charging onto the boat along the beach. It Goes On. And i suppose the beach. It Goes On. And i suppose The Point is that even though were reporting the deaths, the Sad Litany of deaths were continuing, the bigger picture that is certainly going to be the wait is going to be framed by the traffickers, the bigger picture is that most people are getting across. And their Sales Pitch will be to the migrants, look, yes, there are some small incidents here and there, but by and large, you will have a greater chance of getting to the other side of the channel. It Goes On, it Goes On. And despite the terrible news yesterday, it shows no prospect of easing off. Hugh schofield, thank you very much. A 14 year old boy is being held on suspicion of murder after an 80 year Old Man died in leicestershire. Bhim kohli was attacked while walking his dog in a park in Braunstone Town on sunday evening. Four other children aged between 12 and 14 who were also arrested have been released with no further action. A british hiker has been found dead and another has been reported missing on the Spanish Island of majorca. Both were reportedly swept away by water and disappeared when a Storm Hit a mountainous area. Emergency services have been looking for them since monday. Sir Keir Starmer and Rishi Sunak have clashed over the decision to scrap Winter Fuel payments for some people. Our correspondent Iain Watson has this report. Sir Keir Starmer made its way to the commons for only a second pm accuses Prime Minister and Now has to answer the questions rather than ask them. This Afternoon Conservative mps begin the long process of choosing a replacement for Rishi Sunak as leader of the opposition. In the meantime he wanted to turn up his heat on his success was Prime Minister. , heat on his success was Prime Minister. ,. , w minister. Government is about Making Choices on the minister. Government is about Making Choices on the new minister. Government is about Making Choices on the new Prime Minister. Government is about Making Choices on the new Prime Minister choices on the new Prime Minister has made a choice. He has chosen to take the Winter Fuel allowance away from low income pensioners and give that money to certain unionised workforces in inflation busting pay rises. ,. , workforces in inflation busting pay rises. ,. ,. , rises. Our first 0b was to audit the books. Rises. Our first job was to audit the books. And rises. Our first job was to audit the books. And what rises. Our first job was to audit the books. And what we rises. Our first job was to audit the books. And what we found | rises. Our first job was to audit the books. And what we found was a 22 biiiion the books. And what we found was a 22 Billion pounds black hole. No point 22 Billion pounds black hole. No point complaining. In a 22 Billion pounds black hole. No point complaining. Point complaining. In a Show Of uni The Point complaining. In a Show Of unity the lib point complaining. In a Show Of unity the Lib Dems point complaining. In a Show Of unity the Lib Dems also point complaining. In a Show Of unity the Lib Dems also raise i point complaining. In a Show Of. Unity the Lib Dems also raise the political temperature overWinter Fuel. Political temperature over Winter Fuel. ~. Political temperature over Winter Fuel. Political temperature over Winter Fuel. ,. ,. , fuel. What advice to the Prime Minister have fuel. What advice to the Prime Minister have two fuel. What advice to the Prime Minister have two norman fuel. 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Im not pretending its not a difficult pretending its not a difficult decision, of course it is, because we have decision, of course it is, because we have to decision, of course it is, because we have to stabilise the economy. And some we have to stabilise the economy. And some Labour Mps are also uneasy about the loss of Winter Fuel payments from pensioners. Some say they have had hundreds of E Mails from concerned constituents but that doesnt necessarily mean well see much of a formal rebellion. It was called for the postponement of the cuts, but so far its only attracted the support of a handful of colleagues. Mps vote on the Winter Fuel changes next week but a Government Victory is unlikely to quell the criticism. In the wake of that growing criticism of the government over its decision to axe Winter Fuel payments the State Pension could rise by more than £400 a year according to treasury figures that have been seen by the bbc, the rice would match average Earnings Growth because of the triple Lock System so lets get more from our economics editor. This would be an above Inflation Increase in the State Pension . Above Inflation Increase in the State Pension . Yes, as he said there, State Pension . Yes, as he said there. The State Pension . Yes, as he said there, the triple State Pension . Yes, as he said there, the Triple Lock State Pension . Yes, as he said there, the Triple Lock is State Pension . Yes, as he said there, the Triple Lock is what. There, the Triple Lock is what determines how much the State Pension goes up. That evaporating has been determined right Now. And the internal treasury estimate is that its next weeks figures on average earnings for between may and july that will be the determined point, 4 rise, in the State Pension but for those on the new State Pension, post 2016 arrangements, that would be over £400 taking that p that would be over £400 taking that up to £12,000. It is less if you are under pre 2016 arrangements and that would be above inflatiOn And you can see this argument, on top of a £900 increase last year. Now that is the clear argument we are Now hearing from the chancellor from the Prime Minister that they have had to make a tough decision on the Winter Fuel allowance to means test it, but the way to support Pension Incomes is via the State Pension. And that will continue under the Triple Lock to go up continue under the Triple Lock to go up ijy continue under the Triple Lock to go up by at least inflation, at least 2. 5 , but this you are highly likely to be confirmed as being the earnings figures. Those figures are clarified next week and a final decision will be made by the work and Pensions Secretary Liz Kendall ahead of the budget next month. Thank you very much. Our top story this afternoon. A damning final report into the Grenfell Tower disaster blames it on cladding companies, successive governments and the Fire Service. Dame Sarah Storey wins gold in the womens Time Trial, securing Her 18th Paralympic medal. Coming up on Bbc News, all 23 players that remain in the England Squad have been training this morning as Lee Carsley prepares to take charge of the team for the first time since becoming interim manager. There have been fresh russian attacks on ukraine with at least seven people, including three children, in the western city of lviv. It comes after 51 people were killed yesterday in strikes on an Army Training Camp and nearby hospital in the city of poltava. The deadliest single attack of the war this year. 0ur Correspondent Nick Beake is in there. What Nick Beake is in there. Can you tell us about the latest what can you tell us about the latest Attacks Today . What can you tell us about the latest Attacks Today . Well, we kNow theres been latest Attacks Today . Well, we kNow theres been so latest Attacks Today . Well, we kNow theres been so much latest Attacks Today . Well, we kNow theres been so much suffering latest Attacks Today . Well, we kNow theres been so much suffering in i theres been so much suffering in this war but this particular story which has emerged from a Lviv Today is horrific. A mother and her three daughters were all killed in their apartment in the early hours of this morning. The father survived in some very harrowing images have emerged of him bloody and bewildered. This was a city which largely is spared the onslaught from russia, only 40 miles from the polish border, 40 miles from the polish border, 40 miles from the european union, and the nato military alliance, but clearly, that was no deterrent for the russians today. Meanwhile, in this city, poltava, weve been talking to officials who have been trying to make sense, trying to investigate what happened yesterday and of course this was the single most deadly strike in any ukrainian Town Or City this year. More than 50 people killed at a military academy, a lot of those dead are presume to be young cadets, and President Zelensky has said that they will be a full investigation into what happened and he has taken what happened and he has taken what happened here as more evidence he is presenting to its western allies, the uk, americans and others, to say that really Now they need to be giving permission for the ukrainians to use these foreign made long range missiles to hit further into russia so that they can pre emptively stop these sorts of strikes which are so devastating. Yesterday it was two ballistic missiles which came in with hardly any notice at all and so many people were killed. Weve just been getting an update from the emergency services, but more than 300 people it seems were injured yesterday. 300 people it seems were inured esterda. ~ 300 people it seems were inured esterda. ,. Scotlands first minister John Swinney is setting out his governments plans for the next year. He will address the Scottish Parliament this afternoon, just 24 hours after his Financy Secretary laid out a stark financial picture for scotand and announced £500 million worth of cuts. 0ur Scotland Correspondent Lorna gordonjoins us Now. Lorna, what are we expecting to hear today from John Swinney . Yeah, John Swinney is relatively new as first minister and would probably like to make his mark in a Space Programme for government as first minister with some Big Policy Ideas but those kind of ideas often necessitate large amounts of cash and its hard to see how hes going to be able to pull a rabbit out of the hat. Because of those financial constraints, half £1 billion of cuts announced by his finance secretary yesterday. He doesnt look like he has got a lot of room for manoeuvre. When he took over of lead as the snp he said for him the main area to focus on was to tackle Child Poverty and he has made clear that he is going to emphasise that this is also his government biggest priority, there are Policy Areas in scotland different from elsewhere such as the scottish child payment, payable to the families of each child under 16 and in a low income households. Campaigners say the Scale And Pace of the action of letting young people out of poverty has not been nearly enough. Heres this afternoon expected to say he is optimistic, the government can go further to enhance the lives of young people, and expect also to see whether he announces policies in the area are growing the economy, supporting care services and developing Renewable Energy projects but of course the wider context for this is that the snp had a bad General Election and are facing an election at holyrood in two years time. John swinney will be under pressure to deliver. 0k, lorna, thank you very much for that. Its the second day of an inquest into the death of a man after he failed a Lie Detector Test on thejeremy kyle show. Steve dymond is believed to have taken his own life a week after appearing on the Itv Programme five years ago. 0ur Correspondent Duncan Kennedy is at winchester coroners court. Bring it up on what the inquest has been hearing today. The bring it up on what the inquest has been hearing today. Bring it up on what the inquest has been hearing today. The inquest has been hearing today. The inquest has been hearing been hearing today. The inquest has been hearing this been hearing today. The inquest has been hearing this morning been hearing today. The inquest has been hearing this morning from been hearing today. The inquest has. Been hearing this morning from Steve Dymonds Gp Who First Saw Steve Dymonds Gp Who First Saw Steve Dymond in march 2019, two months before he died, and he said steve was very depressed, suicidal, and urgently referred him to a specialist mental health unit. He then said steve reappeared at the end of april a few days before appearing on thejeremy kyle show, demanding a Gp Letter to appear on a Tv Show. He said Steve Dymond was very aggressive, he kicked a door, and the doctor said initially he refused to write the letter but when steve told him he was no longer feeling depressed, he was happy to be back with his partner, he agreed to write the letter. He said he didnt ask any questions about the Tv Show itself and in his letter he wrote that steve had a history of low moods, and depression. When Doctor Raymond was asked byjeremy Kyles Barrister why he hadnt included in the letter the fact Steve Dymond had a long history of depression, he taken at least four drug overdoses, been suicidal a few weeks earlier, Doctor Raymond said he accepted what Steve Dymond had told him that he was no longer depressed, not taking any medication, and he was happy because he was back with his partner. This inquest continues this Afternoon And Jeremy kyle is expected to give his evidence tomorrow. Qm. Jeremy kyle is expected to give his evidence tomorrow. Jeremy kyle is expected to give his evidence tomorrow. Ok, duncan, Thank Ou Ve evidence tomorrow. Ok, duncan, thank you very much the paralympian Dame Sarah Storey has won her 13th Gold in cycling, and her 18th medal in total. It means she has won the womens Time Trial at every paralympics since 2008. The 46 year old is taking part in her ninth games the most for a british paralympic athlete. Sally hurst sent this report from paris. Shes the athlete with a target her back. Commentator The Greatest L British paralympian of them all. Dame Sarah Storey may have won this c5 Time Trial at every games since beijing 2008, but facing younger competitors ramps up the pressure. Commentator will it end in glory for her . I ever the perfectionist, though, Dame Storey had done her homework to make sure every corner, every Hill Climb, was expertly paced. Its and attention to detail that had won her 17 golds across swimming and Cycling And Today she made it 18. Commentator getting every last ounce out of herself to claim the gold medal. At 46, she may be the oldest competitor in her category, but shes still the strongest. Her long lasting career an inspiration to team mates. I always say for as long as sarah is going, ive got to keep going. Shes incredible. I think her first games was after i was born in � 92, which just sounds unreal. Shes got her kid, shes got a family, shes got all the other stuff shes doing, and she still able to come out there and get on top of the podium. And perhaps also taking inspiration was fran brown, competing at her first paralympics in the C1 3 category. A Silver Medal for her. A debut to be proud of. One week into the games, and gbs athletes continue to shine in the city of light. Lets go live to sally in the city of light. Sally, Sarah Storey Goes On and on, so whatever action should be Look Out For Today . Yes. On and on, so whatever action should be Look Out For Today . Be Look Out For Today . Yes, 18 gold medals, be Look Out For Today . Yes, 18 gold medals. Nine be Look Out For Today . Yes, 18 gold medals, nine paralympic be Look Out For Today . Yes, 18 gold medals, nine paralympic games, i medals, nine paralympic games, record, quite something. Dame Sarah Storey� s only complaint though after the race was she wanted the course to be longer, two laps instead of one, the same distance as the men which has happened the previous games. She said it was appalling in fact that this was the shortest course they had ever been because she wants to showcase Womens Sport at its very, very best. She was happy to share the moment with her family and said last night her 11 year old daughter louisa had said, mum, this is the first games i will remember you at. Zach shaw in athletics who originally finished fourth in the T 1200 In Athletics who originally finished fourth in the t1200 metres has been upgraded to bronze and that is after a retrospective disqualification of the turkish athlete, so a Bronze Medal for him and the turkish athlete, so a Bronze Medalfor him and Karim Chann missed out on a Medal Byjust one centimetre in the t 38 long jump, fourth place for him. In table tennis, blithe to me, just 14 years old, already a Bronze Medal winner from earlier in the week, she was through to the semifinals, a brilliant debut for her, lots more to come and we are into week one, can you believe in, day seven of the paralympic games here in paris. Qm. Paralympic games here in paris. Ok, sall , paralympic games here in paris. Ok, sally. Thank paralympic games here in paris. Ok, sally. Thank you paralympic games here in paris. 0k, sally, thank you very much. A reminder of our top headline this afternoon. Victims of the Grenfell Tower fire were failed by dishonesty says the Inquiry Report and says the deaths were avoidable. We ll have a full forecast in the next half hour. But its time Now for a quick look at the weather. Heres louise. Thanks, good afternoon, everyone. Its basically a day of sunny spells and scattered showers but its been and scattered showers but its been a beautiful morning on the north devon coast. A little bit fresher for all of us today. But the story is set to change across the South West and we are looking at a Cut Off low developing through the early hours and tonight and its going to sit across the South Coast for a few days. Its going to dry in some heavy persistent rain for Southern England and parts of South Wales, but that means these areas could see as much as 80 100 millimetres of rain before the system clears away. Further north, we are not done with some yet, though. Lots of Heat And Humidity building. We could see 25 in scotland. More details on that Coming Up shortly. Scotland. More details on that Coming Up shortly. Scotland. More details on that cominu u shortl. ,. , Coming Up shortly. Louise, thank you very much as weve been hearing this lunchtime, a damning final report into the Grenfell Tower fire that killed 72 people has concluded that all deaths were avoidable and blamed dishonest companies and indifferent authorities for the disaster in 2017. The inquiry found that the manufacturers of the cladding products were the by far the largest contributor to the fire, and that they had engaged in Systematic Dishonesty over safety. Successive governments missed opportunities to address the risks posed by Flammable Cladding culminating in Decades Of Failure. The London Fire brigade lacked training and a strategy to evacuate the building. And the royal borough of Kensington And Chelsea council and the Tenant Management 0rganisation was found to have a persistent indifference to fire safety. 0ur Reporter Tim Muffett is at Grenfell Tower for us such a huge day for the relatives of the victims of this tragedy have been waiting so long for this report . Been waiting so long for this re ort . , ,. , report . Yes, hugely significant day so many people report . Yes, hugely significant day so many people and report . Yes, hugely significant day so many people and for report . Yes, hugely significant day so many people and for many so many people and for many families, the report confirms what they have been saying for some time that the 72 deaths were avoidable and that they were caused by a mixture of incompetence, Dishonesty And Greed to quote the report. This Morning Weve heard from a number of Bereavement Support groups, grand folly mode, one of them said they paid the price for Systematic Dishonesty, institutional indifference and neglect, justice for gran. Read the metropolitan police Now had a duty to examine the evidence and those responsible should face justice without a veil to hide behind. Another group, next of kin, said this was a Milestone Moment but the only thing they have asked for is justice and that would involve Manslaughter Charges as far as they are concerned about so many people have said that more than seven years on, the effects of grenfell are still with them, the sense of loss has not gone away and i have been speaking to two people whose lives were devastated on that day. Right, how many people are in Now . Six people, three kids, three adults. Is your wife pregnant as well . Shes pregnant, yeah, and shes asthmatic. She Cant Deal with the smoke. As flames engulfed Grenfell Tower, Marcio Gomes called 999 from the 21st floor. The fire is here. The fire is in the house. The fire is in the house Now. . He was with his pregnant wife and their two daughters. I said, we need to go. Theres no turning back here. We alljust went through the darkness. And when i tell you its Pitch Black its Pitch Black. I mean, i was in the stairwell for half an hour, but then i panicked because i didnt kNow where my wife at the time was or where my other daughter was. Now, come on follow my voice marcio, his wife and two daughters did manage to get out. His frantic calls were shared with the public when he gave evidence at the grenfell inquiry. Started then, the curtains, which was around the window. Erm. The moses basket. So, my wife at the time was seven months pregnant with our son logan, but due to the poisoning, cyanide poisoning, and all the other chemicals that were involved in the stairwell and the smoke, he passed away that night. Theres not a day i dont think about logan. You kNow, you get emotional, like i am Now. Its still quite difficult. Probably always be difficult to talk about. Erm, and you Cant Help think certain situations where, you kNow, Somebodys Birthday or an anniversary. He would have been seven and a half Now, if hed have been born. What do you think should happen to The Tower Now . Well, i think it should stay up. It needs to be a symbol. It needs to be a symbol of hope. It needs to be an educational element to it. And i think if you knock it down, its out of sight, out of mind. And all those organisations that were involved will be getting away with it. Seven years on very tired, very worn out. I wouldnt say im coping. Im fighting, struggling. I lost my mother, my sister, my Brother In Law and three nieces. Six members of my family. Erm. Nabil was living in East London when the fire broke out. He met his brother at the base of Grenfell Tower as the horror unfolded. We were going round and round, trying to look for ways of rescuing our families. Theyre some of the regrets that you have to live with. Shortly after the fire, nabil co founded the Grenfell Tower trust. We set this up to have the voices of the next of kin, Bereaved Familiesm heard because it wasnt being heard. Helping other families dealing with their problems is easier than having to deal with my problems and my family problems. What do you think should happen to The Tower Now . The say. It should be given to the next of kin. If it gets knocked down, i would like there to be a legacy. Like, a museum that remembers our Loved Ones and talks about them and who they were and what they did, and what we changed and what we achieved. Tim muffett, Bbc News. You can get the latest developments on Bbc 0nline on the final report on the Grenfell Fire Disaster on Bbc News online and on the Bbc News app. Still to come on todays programme. The number of people complaining about financial scams, that set a record high this year. Now its time to join our colleagues with the news where you are. Hello and welcome to sportsday. Im hugh ferris. The headlines this lunchtime. Dame Sarah Storey further cements her legacy as great britains most successful paralympian with another gold on day seven of the games in paris. Training ahead of the first match of the New England coach. And Josh Hole is to make his England Debut. Josh hull. Hello again. Day seven of the paralympics have started in a way so many others have over the years. Sarah storey was already britains most successful paralympian, but her record breaking exploits have continued in paris. The cyclist has won an 18th gold by claiming the title in an event shes Now won forfive games in a row. Lets speak to our reporter sally hurst, who is there for us and can talk us through all the Medals Paralympicsgb have won already today. Yes, as you say, Dame Sarah Storey has won this event at every paralympic games since beijing 2008, quite an achievement. She may be 46 and facing fierce competition from rivals half her age, but it is her attention to detail which gives her the edge, so she would have checked this course several times, making sure every Hill Climb and corner was placed perfectly, and she finished four seconds clear of her nearest rival from four seconds clear of her nearest rivalfrom france, so quite an achievement for her. There was also at silver Frank Brown in the c1 to c3 for her must really good. Also, he has upgraded to bronze, after the disqualification of the turkish athletes, so a bronze for zach shaw. And Karen Shahjust athletes, so a bronze for zach shaw. And Karen Shah just missed athletes, so a bronze for zach shaw. And Karen Shahjust missed out athletes, so a bronze for zach shaw. And Karen Shah just missed out on a medal in the long jump by one centimetre out. And she is through to the individual semifinals, having a brilliant debut here, and Alfie Hewett in Wheelchair Tennis is also through to the semifinals but Gordon Reid also went through to the daughters and we have swimming and Power Lifting to look forward to and can you believe it is already a day seven, a week into these paralympic games here in paris . Through to the quarters. Just as it feels League Football has returned, weve Now got a break for international football. All of the Home Nations will play Matches in the nations league, Including Scotland and Northern Ireland tomorrow, with wales under new Boss Craig Bellamy on friday. Theres also a new face in the England Dugout this weekend Lee Carsley will take charge of his first match as interim manager. 0ur Reporter Alex Howell was at England Training for us this morning. The England Squad joined up at St Georges Park yesterday as they build up for the games in this international break. It is the first squad that Lee Carsley has named since he was named to the england interim Head Coach and there are some new faces in the squad. We have morgan gibbs white from Nottingham Forest and Angel Gomez from legal and Thilo Livramento from newcastle as well as those new faces, we have recalls in jack as well as those new faces, we have recalls injack grealish. Angel gomez from lille. We will hear from Angel Gomez later in the Press Conference and he will have a real chance of playing in these games as this one is without players like Jude Bellingham and we will hear how training has gone with the new manager as england builds up for the games with Republic Of Ireland on saturday and then finland later on in the week. Steve bruce will be adding to his more than 1,000 Matches as a football manager, making a return to the game after nearly two years. Hes signed a two Year Deal to become manager of blackpool in league one. After a Playing Career mostly with Manchester United, bruce is Now 63, and is taking charge of a 12th different club. And he replaces neil critchley, who was sacked by blackpool after two defeats to start their season. Four british teams are in Action Today in the womens Champions League first round Semi Finals, including arsenal Hosting Rangers at meadow park. Rangers have won their last five games by an Aggregate Scoreline of 43 0. While Arsenals Wsl Season begins later this month. Celtic are through after two Saoirse Noonan Goals in extra time gave her a Hattrick And Celtic had a win against their finnish opponents koops. Northern irelands glentoran are away at slovenian South Mura injust under 90 minutes time. You can stay across those games on the Bbc Sport Website and app. The Mens Transfer Window may be shut, but the womens remains open, and Manchester United have confirmed the signing of celin bizet. The forward has moved from tottenham, and has signed a three Year Deal with united, after they triggered her £60,000 Release Clause ahead of their Transfer Window closing on september 13th. Bowlerjosh hull will make his England Debut in the third and final test against Sri Lanka which starts at the oval tomorrow. England are attempting to make a clean sweep in the series. They have won their first two Matches. Lats clean sweep in the series. They have won their first two Matches. Won their first two Matches. Lots of reasons for won their first two Matches. Lots of reasons for england won their first two Matches. Lots of reasons for england to won their first two Matches. Lots of reasons for england to feel reasons for england to feel optimistic today as so far they have won every match they have played and their Coaching Situation has been resolved and the enormously influential Brendan Mccullin is Now influential Brendan Mccullin is Now in charge of Everything And Test Match Captain 0llie pope played his record but his run of low scores has led to scrutiny about his technique and maybe his temperament for captaincy and today, his responsibility was to talk to us in the media. Responsibility was to talk to us in the Media Responsibility was to talk to us in the media. , �. , ~ the media. Yes, ive loved it. Like i said, i the media. Yes, ive loved it. Like isaid. I kNow the media. Yes, ive loved it. Like i said, i kNow there the media. Yes, ive loved it. Like i said, i kNow there has the media. Yes, ive loved it. Like i said, i kNow there has been the media. Yes, ive loved it. Like i said, i kNow there has been a i the media. Yes, ive loved it. Likej i said, i kNow there has been a lot made i said, i kNow there has been a lot made about i said, i kNow there has been a lot made about me not getting the runs i would made about me not getting the runs i would have made about me not getting the runs i would have liked and i am well aware of that would have liked and i am well aware of that and would have liked and i am well aware of that and as a batter, i put myself of that and as a batter, i put myself under enough russia when i am captain myself under enough russia when i am captain or myself under enough russia when i am captain or not, i want to go and help captain or not, i want to go and help the captain or not, i want to go and help the team. Under enough pressure help the team. Under enough pressure. The focus is on this week. And battersby wear, he isjosh hull, picked in Englands Team to be different. Batters, beware. For all the history made by patrick mahomes, Travis Kelce and the rest of the Kansas City chiefs, theyre still starting the new Nfl Season chasing something thats never been done before. No franchise has won three Super Bowls in a row. But few are betting against the chiefs, who as defending champions, play the first game of the season at home against the baltimore ravens. It exciting. It is the first game of the Season And Everyone wants to come out and show how explosive they are and show how much better they got from last year, and it isjust are and show how much better they got from last year, and it is just a great opportunity to be giving up such a great team. Coach Harpo And Everyone over there in baltimore is Top Tier and they have some of the great players in the league on both sides of the ball and it will be a great challenge for us but i think everyone is just fired great challenge for us but i think Everyone Isjust fired up great challenge for us but i think everyone is just fired up to go out there and get this season started. Jack draper is attempting to become the first british player in 12 years to reach the Semi Finals of the mens singles at the Us Open later. Hes taking on australias tenth seed, Alex De Minaur, this evening. While therell definitely be an american in the mens final for the first time since 2006, after Taylor Fritz made it through to his first grand Slam Semifinal with a four Set Victory against former runner up Alexander Zverev to set up a last four meeting with compatriot frances tiafoe. I think ithink in i think in a lot of my previous quarterfinals, i have come out i think in a lot of my previous quarter finals, i have come out a little bit nervous, but Today Ijust felt really good from the start and ready to go. I think i maybe got more nervous as the match went on because i felt like he was playing points are a little bit tight and it almost caused me to play a little bit tight to. But i came up with a lot of serves when i needed them, and played some big points while and i am super pumped to make it to my first semi. The first two Womens Quarter finals went much more to plan for the higher ranked players, with second Seed Aryna Sabalenka easing through to the last four. She beat chinas olympic champion Zheng Qinwen in straight sets to reach the semis in New York for the fourth time in her career. She will play americas emma navarro, who beat paula badosa. She is doing really well. Beautiful to see that she is working hard and playing really great tennis, smart tennis, moving well, hitting pretty heavy shots, and the last two Matches we played were really tough Matches we played were really tough Matches physically and mentally. And even though i won the last one, it wasnt an easy match and it was a very intense match and i am really looking for another great battle against her. Youll be able to stay across jack drapers match against Alex De Minaur this evening on the Bbc Sport Website and on radio 5 live. Hes the lowest ranked player left in the mens draw. Mens and Womens Number Ones Jannik Sinner and Iga Swiatek are also in action in the early hours of the morning. But thats all your sport for Now. Time to rejoin the news at one Team And Ben brown. The number of people complaining about financial scams has hit a record high this year. New rules offering better protectiOn And quicker Compensation Payments are due to be introduced. Ben boulos has the details. Right Now, if you fall victim to a scam, you could get almost all your money reimbursed, or almost none of it, depending on who you bank with. So the regulators introducing New Rules to make things more consistent. And figures just released show how common financial fraud scams have become. The financial services ombudsman, which settles disputes between firms and customers, received a Record Number of complaints about such scams. More than 8,700 were made between april and june. Thats 2,500 more than a year earlier, and its the highest number in any three month period. The watchdog says its receiving and resolving around 500 scam cases every week. More than half of the complaints were from people whod fallen foul of so called authorised Push Payment or app scams. Thats where people are tricked into making an online payment to a fraudster pretending to be a business, for example. The ombudsman says its disappointing to see complaints increasing, while the body representing Uk Banks says they are doing what they can to help customers. There are lots of different ways in which these frauds take place. I would say its really important that we all treat our personal information in the way that we would our keys to our house and afford them that level of protection. Theres quite a lot of advice that we give to people through our take five to stop fraud campaign, and id encourage everybody to look at that, which contains good advice about keeping yourself safe. But it really comes down to buying yourself some time to stop and think. And as i say, protecting your personal information in the way that you would protect your house keys. New rules come into force next month on how much and how quickly financial firms have to compensate fraud victims. So if you end up falling for a scam, you should be less likely to be left out of pocket. Almost 40 years after the original tim Burton Film became a cult classic, the Comedy Horror Movie beetlejuice is returning to cinemas. Michael keatOn And Winona Ryder are back, alongside new cast members Jenna Ortega and Justin Theroux, to bring the ghost with the most back from the grave. Charlotte gallagher has been to find out more. There are some Flashing Images in her report. If you say his name three times, he will appear. Beetlejuice, beetlejuice, beetlejuice. After almost four decades, Michael Keaton is back as beetlejuice and teaming up with director Tim Burton once more. He and i both had a window here, especially him, it turns out, where he said to me, im ready, im really excited, but if i dont make it Now, i dont think were going to make it. So once i said, yeah, and he said, yeah, and we were on, i was excited from the get go. But then i didnt kNow, you kNow, if i could pull it off again. So, so im already excited because i kNow im walking into, ijust didnt kNow if i could bring it. Please, father. Cant you see him i concentrating here . How much of you is in beetlejuice . I kNow youre not a demon, but, like, do you put some of yourself. How do you kNow im not a demon . Thats true, actually, yeah. Yeah looking into your eyes yeah. Like, did you decide the. You need the wig to really kind of. Did you, like, decide the voice, did you decide some of the characterisations of beetlejuice . Yeah, all of them. All of them . Lets be clear. Its him, its tim. He had this imagery of striped suit, very pale, black eye thing. That was for sure. Oh, my god Justin Theroux plays the Toe Curling Fiancee of Winona Ryder� s character. Oh, dear. Im good. Everyones met a guy like your character. I kNow but no one thinks theyre that guy. No. The guys that are like that guy will go, oh, i kNow that guy. Youre like, yeah, because youre that guy. But, yeah, thats what makes him kind of fun. But where did the dad speak come from . You kNow not rad dad, but what do you call him . Dope dad. Yeah, that wasjust, that was from the thing, i was telling michael earlier that, like, my mum was single, or a single mum, and periodically, not often, but she would bring back, like, a boyfriend who, you kNow, she had three kids, and he was trying to ingratiate himself to the family. And it would always be way too quick, you kNow. Hed be kind of like, hey, whats going on, what are you up to, tyke . Come on over, give me a hug. Winona ryder returns Withjenna 0rtega playing her troubled daughter. Catherine ohara is ryder� s eccentric stepmother once again. What a trio of women. Its actually pretty incredible of tim to focus, you kNow, such an insane story, you kNow, which is named after a character who is sleazy and disgusting and gross or whatever, and still make it a film about women and kind of. Love and family . Exactly. Thats true. And there wasnt a lot of talk about that on the set. Its not. Tims not the kind of director this is a story about these women. But it seems like you had that bond as well, because that kind of sometimes doesnt work unless the people involved are getting On And they have that connection . Yeah, but its so easy. I mean, how sweet and nice and perfect and funny is she . 0h aw. Good face theres no word on a third beetlejuice, though hopefully, it wont be a 36 year wait again. You and the boys stand guard. Charlotte gallagher, Bbc News. Christmas came early for some Gavin And Stacey fans this week, when the cast reunited in wales to film the final ever episode of the show. James corden, ruthjones and Joanna Page have all been spotted on Barry Island, Filming Scenes for the 2024 christmas special. 0ur Reporter Elinor Rice went to find out more. It was a busy late Summer Day on Barry Island as crowds poured onto the front to see whats occurring. Well, its september, but i suppose the countdown to christmas has started. The filming for the final episode of Gavin Stacey is going on behind me, and crowds have turned out on Barry Island to see. Ruthjones who plays nessa, and co writes the sitcom was seen in a rickshaw withJoanna Page, who plays stacey. James corden swapped his role as smithy for the day to go back behind the scenes, and he took a break to meet the waiting fans. Were you expecting a turnout like this . I dont kNow, really, i hadnt really thought about it, but its lovely. Its wonderful. Everyone i speak to says about how relatable they find Gavin Stacey. And thats how special it is to them. How does that feel to hear . Lovely. Its wonderful. Its. All of it, its all overwhelming. The fact its the last time well probably be here all of it, its. Its wonderful. And even the most eagle eyed fans could only get a glimpse of the filming. We still dont have any idea what happens, and its keeping everyone guessing. Im hoping they get married like Everybody Else do you think its going to happen . I think so they need to wrap it up. And the Fishing Trip do you kNow what . I dont want it to be too emotional. I think the Joy Ofl it is its so funny. I i dont want it to be too serious, i not too emotional, christmas day, but to round it off nicely. Probably they get married and we get to find out what happened on the Fishing Trip, and thats pretty much it. Thatll be a perfect ending, then i want to see what happened on that Fishing Trip because you never kNow. I want to see if they get married. Wales icons, arent they . So we wanted to come and see them. Been filming for years, since. Watched it since i was little, so. 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There the visitors and businesses. There was such the visitors and businesses. There was such a the visitors and businesses. There was such a lovely the visitors and businesses. There was such a lovely atmosphere the visitors and businesses. There i was such a lovely atmosphere which everybody was such a lovely atmosphere which everybody got was such a lovely atmosphere which everybody got on was such a lovely atmosphere which everybody got on board was such a lovely atmosphere which everybody got on board with. Was such a lovely atmosphere which everybody got on board with. The i everybody got on board with. The Excitement Everybody got on board with. Excitement was palpable. The excitement was palpable, but we have a while to wait yet the finale will be on Bbc One on christmas day, and its sure to be Appointment Viewing for families across the country. Elinor rice, Bbc News on Barry Island. Yeah, Cant Wait for that. Nice Blue Skies in Barry Island. Now the weather with louise. Its a good job they werent filming this end of this week because its going to rain across South Wales in fact across south West England and Southern England as well. More on that in a moment but absolutely glorious at the moment, guess what, ireland. We havent seen lovely Blue Skies and sunshine in scotland for quite some time and actually temperatures are set to rise here. Slightly different story further south, in surrey, low grey clouds. The Odd Spot or two of light rain. Thats because we have Weather Fronts surrounding the country at the moment. This one is producing the moment. This one is producing the cloud as it moves its way across the cloud as it moves its way across the East Midlands down into the south east corner. This one is enhancing a few showers down through the Irish Sea and a long exposed West Coast but its sunny spells and scattered showers basically for the rest of the afternoon. And it is notably pressure out there as well so temperatures to the middle part of the afternoon likely to peak between 15 and 20. As we go through the evening, and overnight, most of the evening, and overnight, most of the showers will tend to fade away perhaps lingering longest across the far south but take a look at this. Heres the first signs of Heavy Rain i was talking about across south West England and wales as we go through the night. Temperatures widely into double digits and its going to be the rain that will be the Talking Point first thing tomorrow morning. And this low pressure is whats kNown as a Cut Off low, sitting across the South West and linger for quite some time, so thursday, friday, possibly into the weekend. We will see heavy bursts of rain moving up from that Year Continent from time to time in some areas as much is that inch in an hour. A north easterly Breeze Driving and more cloud across eastern england, so west will certainly be best, so Western Scotland, Northern Ireland, sunny spells and pleasant. Temperatures will be a few degrees up. Likely to see highs into the low 20s potentially, but underneath the cloud and the rain and with that brisk north easterly wind, it will feel a little bit more autumnal, around 16 18. That rain still there as we go through friday. Interestingly enough, the Wind Direction comes from the east and drags in some warm air. There will be a lot of sunshine anywhere north of the Weather Front and it will turn increasingly humid so temperatures are going to start to respond anywhere from the midlands, north wales and up into scotland and Northern Ireland, we could see temperatures in Western Scotland peaking at 25 on friday. The rain are very much a feature for the south and west. A similar story potentially as we head into the weekend. ,. ,. , weekend. Ok, louise, thank you very much indeed you can get the latest developments on the final report on the Grenfell Fire Disaster on Bbc News online and on the Bbc News app. Also there are reports coming in this lunchtime of 70 firefighters tackling a blaze at the two flats on the ninth and tenth floors of a Tower Block in catford in south East London. Thats according to the london. Thats according to the London Fire brigade. Thats all from todays Bbc News at 0ne. Thank you for watching. This is Bbc News, live from london. A path to disaster, the priory into the fire publishes its final report. In most cases through but in and agreed. It in most cases through but in and agreed and agreed. It says the fire was a result and agreed. It says the fire was a result of and agreed. It says the fire was a result of a and agreed. It says the fire was a result of a chain and agreed. 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