15 00. With this i say goodbye to you, see you tomorrow, all the best. Peter, hello, greetings, i would like, of course, to start this conversation differently, but events in israel overnight began to determine 90 of the world agenda, some experts, they now say with such a degree of irony what to include now. Usa, iran, china, taiwan, yes, thats it to these events in ukraine, israel, palestine, everything, the third world war is in sight. Thats how far you think this game of thrones will go. And will this new doomsday war, as it is called, replace the current ukrainian agenda, war, whatever. Lets start. From the ukrainian agenda, before talk about the middle eastern theater, why, because the ukrainian agenda, the Democratic Administration wanted to remove even before the confrontations around the gas sector broke out, and this is due primarily to the fact that election campaigns are underway and that. What gives, for example , the sociological service of gallop, the dynamics of the gradual fatigue of American Society from ukraine, and approximately 10 of those in American Society for six months who support Financial Assistance to ukraine, all this suggests that biden and his administration, in order to win the elections, needs to remove this topic, despite the fact that we remember that for the biden family personally it is very toxic due to the Corruption Scandal of his son, this is the first thing, the second point is the help that has already been provided, now the republicans want to carry out a huge number of checks around it, as far as there were no corruption schemes, i will remind you that the minister of defense reznikov, the former, who was fired due to. Corruption, well, of course, without without such stories, according to many ukrainian political scientists, his dismissal was due to the fact that he wrote a memo about corruption schemes in the United States of america itself, that is, specific financial and military assistance to the kiev regime, which was allocated, it was misused not only in ukraine itself, but in including in the United States of america, and it is not a fact, for example, that the weapons that on paper reached kiev, for example, did not end up in the gas sector not through the fault of kiev, but through the fault of the United States of america, because any war, any military action is the easiest way to earn extra money, no one will go to the front, check with what machine guns, what bullets, shells, who is firing at whom, how many were fired, named the number, used this help, only half of what the usa provided, yes, it turned out that the second half had dissolved in some unknown place, that is. Do you think that they might not have partially reached ukraine . Budgets that were allocated to the kiev regime, most of these budgets should have settled in the United States of america itself, well , reznikov had enough for a villa for 7 million for his daughter, and if we talk about mr. Reznikov, lets remember about eggs for. Well, okay , this is corruption, it is not profitable, this is if we are talking about ukraine, but still israel, and israel is precisely where today turns the needle on the one hand to the middle east direction, on the other hand it is more profitable for the republicans, since, unlike ukraine, israel has status. Although outside of nato, it is an ally of the United States of america, and the third point is the strongest israeli lobby in the United States, which introduced not one or two sanctions, and not only against arab opponents, including against the ussr, it also introduced sanctions that no one didnt cancel it, there s a whole conglomerate here, a different moment, a different level, if we move away from the internal ones. This is the level of transformation of modern international relations, that is, before there was a unipolar world, there was one hegemon, there was everything it is clear who calls the tune, the same arab states and territories, the same palestinians, understood this in principle, now the situation is changing, new centers of power are emerging, the same iran, for example, which before. The americans presented as an outcast of outcasts , today it is accepted, not by the western part of the world community, it has entered the shanghai cooperation organization, it is on its way to brix, it is a Strategic Partner of the peoples republic of china, it is today intensifying relations with the Russian Federation as much as possible federation. This is northsouth. And it is clear that the new centers of power, the same saudi arabia, which used to be a hard satellite of the United States, today is a Strategic Partner of china, works with india, latin america, the Russian Federation, did not submit to the sanctions, yes, the sanctions regime, it too plays his game. Moreover, it would seem that the same hamas was supported by qatar. Control over territories that could potentially become part of either the great silk road, chinese, modern, or, secondly, indian trade route, which delhi announced it would build from the east. Asia, look, but still there are several facts that i want you to comment on, yes, because it raises questions, after all, who benefited from this aggravation, because it turns out, on the one hand, it is obvious that the israeli army i slept through this attack, yes, in general , the footage that is shown to us, when in reality israeli Army Soldiers are caught at fortified bases, to put it mildly, they only have time to put on body armor, at best there on the tshirts and they offer practically no resistance, they are literally destroyed, which means that in principle it was suddenly obvious, many experts say that it could not have happened without betrayal or without some, to put it mildly, moves from within, this is the first question, the second question, you say that this aggravation was really beneficial for the usa, right . So for biden on the eve of the elections, will this aggravation bring points or costs . Lets sum it up a little. This will at least change the agenda, and if we are talking about the reaction of the israeli state, it seems to me that very good sabotage and conspiracy agents worked there, why . Because its on the border. To turn it off, you need to have access, which means. There are currently agents inside the israeli state itself. Heres another question, but lets look at what happened to the israeli state over the past 3 years, an internal crisis, constant, speeches, rallies, protests about disunity, which means that internal political confrontation has begun to play into the hands today ext. Not a political confrontation, because neither the special services, nor the army intelligence, counterintelligence, they did not work , they could not prevent or at least warn, they themselves say that such seizures have never happened in history, this is one moment, the second moment cohesion of the arab world in this situation, that is, here i see that there is a benefit in the redistribution of spheres of influence in the middle east for many, for a huge number of players, and for the United States of america, to prevent the strengthening of china, india, iran, the same , and for iran, which wants to demonstrate, firstly, wants to take revenge for what they did last year, it is clear what kind of special services, yes , some drones, mass poisoning in schools, attempts to undermine society on ethnic grounds, on gender grounds , this is discontent in lebanon, we just dont notice it, we dont live by the theme, but lebanon is simply shaken by internal conflicts, and this is hezbollah, these are those who oppose israel, and this again, this is syria, which has received blows more than once from israel and who is dissatisfied with the position that israel expresses regarding them, and this is a very multilayered cake, well, look, if this linkage between the usa and ukraine is completed in our conversation, yes, the usa obviously plays the role of such a world hegemon, it loses, yes, but at the same time they really want to save time. They continue to throw away billions, at least in words, yes, while the draft american budget without assistance to ukraine, well, at least in the amount that ukraine would like, and this was very surprising, or at least alarming not only zelsky, but even barel, in your opinion, what kind of bargaining is biden conducting in relation to ukraine, is it connected only with this 30 , which they actually lost in. A year and a half, well, if we take 10 there , the number of people willing to help ukraine decreases every six months, is this only connected with this . In my opinion, an Important Role is played by the fact that the ukrainian direction, no matter how it is presented, is not strategic for the United States, the United States does not need a proamerican ukraine as many can think, usa, we know history, the most revealing option is when the americans fought in vietnam, when they lost their own allies, maximum destruction in ukraine is beneficial for them, and it is beneficial for them to limit the geopolitical capabilities of russia through ukraine, so take the destroyed ukraine and restore it, this the second point, and the third point , thats a barrel yes. He said such a thing that we wont be able to pay for everything, ukraines debts there, its budgetary costs, and why did europe fit in like that, despite its interests, and europes interest was a Good Relationship with russia and china, the americans played a proactive role, they are today forcing european businesses to move their production from europe to. To the United States of america, according to german social studies , which were carried out just a year ago, and then a year ago, 25 of Large Companies in germany had already withdrawn their enterprises from the territory of the European Union, and 51 were thinking about it and planning to do this, that is, according to by and large, weak europe, europes dependence on the usa is the main interest europe as a periphery, use those intellectual, economic, financial, technological resources of europe to strengthen. In a powerful, powerful struggle with china, that is, to concentrate the resources of europe at home, take them over, turn europe into a mere periphery, entertainment for tourists, yes , come, see everything, that is, not independence, but some kind of mercedes and bmw will do, in the United States of america, well, well, look, bloomberg writes that this is the decision. Well, at least with a statement about such a decision, yes, it was done the most serious blow to zelensky, here the hungarians and the slovaks are throwing gunpowder, yes, although more precisely, they dont want to push him , declaring that they will not give a single more cartridge to zelensky, in slovakia the party that is extremely critical of ukraine is winning, thats all to be honest, it resembles such a scheme, yes, when the initially loud statement, we. among european mourners, but the topic of ukraine, for europe, in fact, this is an ideologically important topic of the image of the enemy, which is molded from russia, from belarus, such a border, in order to keep europe in crisis until ukraine. Because, lets take germany, probably the most advanced economy and a more or less Stable Society in the European Union, there were elections to the bundestag when this Traffic Light Coalition was formed, yeah, in these elections the peoples parties, the cdu, the csu and the sdp together received about 50 of the votes. And why were they called peoples people, they always together gained at least a constitutional majority, that is, there is no trust in the systemic ones political forces, to those social institutions that exist, in the name of somehow uniting society, and it is best to unite if there is nothing to sell them, just the image of the enemy and fear, this is what is being done, therefore in europe. Or rather their elites, who do not think about european interests, they think about euroatlantic interests, their home is a plane between brussels and washington, they are not interested in europe in this regard, their accounts are in transnational banks, they receive their interest, they dont care , will there be a german grandma get . One pension, either we will raise the retirement age, or we will begin to withdraw part of the pension for some military, there are other funds and services, this does not interest them, but there is another trend, you noticed about slovakia, and this is only the first elections, and i i want to emphasize an interesting point that such a special opinion exists and prevails in the societies of the former. Uhhuh, here is hungary, from the very first day it was very critical of this whole ukrainian topic, we see a sharp change in opinion in slovakia, soon there will be the czech republic, soon will austria, austria, austria initially proceeded quite restrainedly, yes, it proceeded quite restrainedly, and now there will be even more criticism, it will gradually be built within the framework of the European Union. Such a pragmatic core that understands that we are losing funds, we are losing our subjectivity, due to the fact that some, some part of the european bureaucracy , simply for their own benefit, fit into this topic of ukraine, okay, then the question is simple, here now lets simulate the situation, the United States loses interest in ukraine completely if it switches to the middle east, yes, pushes this problem exclusively onto europe. How long will europe deal with the problem of ukraine, even taking into account, as you said, the need to have a common enemy, as a means of escaping from its own social cataclysms, well, this is a rather idealistic option, i think the United States will not completely merge ukraine , however, their main task is a war of attrition, the europeans will be hanged as much as possible. Where are the military costs and expenses that we already have in principle, so as not to continue to weaken the russian bear, rudely speaking, including themselves, and themselves, how long can they do this . They also have a Printing Press called the euro, yes, there is a European Bank for reconstruction and development, uh, its clear that european taxpayers will pay for this, plus, we must not forget, such a monster as the Eastern Partnership and other types of association with the eu, by and large, the system of financial and economic colonization of other states by the European Union. What is this, this is northern africa, these are some countries of latin america, this is the same moldova, georgia, azerbaijan, that is, there are enough certain candidates, donors, cheap labor, how long this will take is a difficult question, this must be considered, but i think that they are ready to play until 2028. Exactly, why the twentyeighth . Because there will be the next us elections, good answer. When we talk about europes readiness to continue working to exhaust russia, this automatically implies that belarus is working in conjunction with russia; they will work against us, naturally. But the visit of the president. Fortified area, one of the and conversation on a number of important topics. We have long been accustomed to the fact that our first, he not only understands and is well versed in the internal external agenda, yes, we often see that his words are prophetic in nature, and the president s warnings, especially addressed to our ardent western partners, yes, should be heeded, and listen literally, here. Lets start with the obvious here is the situation around the borders, yes, we learned the lessons of history, the lessons of modern war, this was discussed, we are ready to in the event of an attack, cause unacceptable damage, this is what is behind this, once again for our viewers, in simple words, in simple words, that we will never retreat five of our lands, we will not give up to anyone, this is the first moment, the second the moment is that our the state is following the path of dialogue and not monologue, so lets remember with the same poles, yes, when we proposed to conduct joint exercises, yeah, and how they fidgeted, and then suddenly two highranking officials of the ministry of defense signed a letter of resignation, yes, here, we must realize at some point that the modern militaristic bacchanalia of poland, it has two, two components , the first component is the election one, the image of the enemy, to transport various kinds of Armored Vehicles throughout poland and demonstrate them to frighten the population, yes, without need, except for Political Technology , the second point is something that. For some reason we dont talk much about it, this is an attempt by the party of law and justice to subordinate the army, yeah, to establish a partyocracy, this is a completely special phenomenon, if we talk about poland, which probably does not exist anywhere else, when the party first took over the main Economic Production and industrial concerns, that is, it was the party, not the government, the party, namely pisan. Puts his people on the board of directors of orlin, on the board of directors of the group dung, kgm, copper these are the largest concerns , leading strategic concerns, concerns in poland, this is the first moment, now they are doing this already in the army and using the army for their political purposes, yeah, we in this situation, when the president says, we are ready for dialogue, we we dont act, how it annoys them, why, because they are trying to violate borders, fly over us with their own helicopters, to induce us to some kind of hysterical reaction, which they would use in their information affairs, things, political technologies, to show, here are the belarusians, you see, they are aggressive, they are a source for us. Source of danger , its impossible to act like this, we are not grist for their mill, our grist, this is the first point, the second point, i still dont agree with some experts who say that americans are aiming for some kind of military escalation, why . In our region in our region, there are different forces in the west, there are forces that, on the contrary, incite , i personally get the feeling that such a force is very much present in the uk, well, these always want to use the wrong hands, for whom maximum escalation is more profitable, and the americans , here. At the nato summit in vilnius they very clearly broke through and promoted the thesis that nato countries should not be involved in direct confrontation with countries that have Nuclear Weapons and b, on whose territory Nuclear Weapons are located, this is hello to those who said that tactical Nuclear Weapons do not work in belarus, they just started working, initially these statements contradicted logic. Not a single Nuclear Country with nuclear potential was attacked directly, as you know, the second point , if we look at how sharply the poles began to change their tactics towards us, instead of installing offensive contingents on the borders, they began to actually mine the suwalki corridor, then there is a logic to the line. Defensive presence, that is, a sharp change in tactics and strategy, it is clear that this is all being done from a Political Technology point of view, it seems to me, a demonstration, yes, a demonstration, but on the other hand, the poles want to sell their service, and this is their fixed idea among their intellectuals, as the main force, the United States of america, as such a trojan horse within the European Union. Which a should control berlin, brussels and paris, and b should carry such a mission of light, in quotes, of course, to the east , such missionism, the americans also have a dual attitude to this, there is a polish lobby, it is quite strong, which really promotes militarization, the sale of weapons, but the sale of weapons is one thing, but the management. Of american contingents in europe, who, the poles want to promote their placement on the territory of their state, they have failed in this, the americans have two main complaints here, why do we need to transfer such an entire infrastructure from germany to poland when it is already built since the cold war, there are Nuclear Weapons and the second point , the americans. Do not have a certain trust in the fact that poland is a predicted state, here is an example of the same grain conflict with ukraine, yes, yeah, because this embargo was introduced not on september 15 and not in the summer, it was introduced back in march of this year, but for some reason no one spoke about this topic informationally, in july everyone knew that this Agricultural Coalition that warsaw built against the kiev regime, yes, and their grain, that they will extend this embargo, but the hysteria all began after september 15 , when the deadline for extension passed, when everything became clear what it would be, but this became such a basis for a big quarrel, this is. The confrontation between poland and ukraine, yes , which began over grain, at least in the public space, but from this conflict, can we say that the confrontation will increase, namely between poland and ukraine, is this already an escalation, or a negative situation, but developing in dynamics, lets see the reasons why to zhelensky, this confrontation, especially public, theatrical, is beneficial, why. With morawiecki it is beneficial, thats what it does , zelsky, the topic of ukraine is gradually disappearing, it is becoming uninteresting, they want to pull it out of the public sphere, abandon it, what happens here, the second moment, blinkin declares that you will not receive help, and this is before all the budgetary provisions. Until you carry out the appropriate reforms and begin anticorruption actions, i would like to remind you that in ukraine there is such a division as national, Anticorruption Bureau of ukraine, naboo, which actually acts as an organ of the United States of america inside ukraine, which carries out personnel policy , controls personnel, who decides who is a corrupt official and who is not a corrupt official, the task of the americans is to strengthen this body and actually reduce the kiev regime that. Has a completely puppet state, a completely puppet state, in response, that in response he sees that zelsky, this gaze on him is diminishing, help, is about to leave from under feet, well, its already decreasing, they are already directly saying that its decreasing, and the most important influence, pressure on the Public Opinion of the west, which zelensky was so concerned about, is also going away because they are dissatisfied with it. In the west and he begins a new round of hysteria, look, the poles are traitors, this is a ukrainian case, understandable, what about poland, the ratings of the law and justice party, to put it mildly , are not great, the beginning of june is 30 , against the backdrop of bacchanalia and creation the image of the enemy from belarus and russia was slightly raised to 40, well, a Corruption Scandal, but then its not easy corruption, this is. A visa scandal, yes, a visa Corruption Scandal, yes , which was inspired by the way by brussels, berlin and paris, they leaked this information and promoted it in the media, it reduced ratings to 32 , and an antiukrainian a topic that is becoming more and more popular due to the guidance of the ukrainians themselves in poland, behavior because duda and morawiecki provided assistance. From the state budget to the ukrainian, again, the interests of farmers, as it were, the interests of farmers, smallscale production farming in poland, there are a lot of farmers, this is a large layer of the electorate, yeah, they are starting to raise antiukrainian themes , history, it shows that look, yes, maybe we didnt really notice the seventieth anniversary of the volyn massacre and swallowed it, but now we are here for you lets show that we will firmly defend our polish National Interests there . Then a provocative question, it s simple, yes, then why should dudi declare against the background of the events that began in israel, yes, that they say there is no need to exaggerate too much the significance of the arabisraeli conflict, yes, that is, it has always been, yes, it has always been, here, after all, there is still ukraine, well, lets just say for a politician of this level, a week before the elections, such statements, where are the positions of peace and so weak, yes, but it looks a little strange or illogical, or is there still a logic somewhere, here is a simple logic. Duda does not want to lose the infrastructure and the role that poland has in supporting the kiev regime, primarily as military infrastructure, logistics infrastructure, and an airfield rzeszewo is today a huge logistics hub, where both the transshipment of relevant cargo and weapons to ukraine is carried out, and on the other hand, repairs. Of the equipment that comes from ukraine, that is, this is earnings, in any case, this is earnings, and duda it simply says dont forget about us, finance those projects that are taking place, and dont exaggerate the israeli conflict, there is no need to invest any more money there, you are investing money for us, that is, this is not even a message to ukraine, not to its own citizens, this is a message to washington, good, but still the elections are literally here. This week, yes, insight from our president polish diplomats are ready to improve relations, but we belarusians are ready for all scenarios, so what is your forecast for the prospects for the development of the polish situation, i mean the outcome of the elections and the situation after these very elections, where will it go poland . Well, i would highlight three basic scenarios, the first scenario is understandable if peace remains in power, either independently or in a coalition , he takes someone, in this scenario, after the elections, parliamentary and president ial, rhetoric it will become a little softer, the second point, i think that then there will be some cutting off, at least in the chinese direction, which means that they will not close the border, yeah, why, because 90 of the transit of the northern part of the belt and the routes to hamburg are through the territory of belarus and poland, respectively poland, this is the first point, although they will try to sell theirs. Services and we all know what to expect from them. The second scenario is the opposite scenario, tusk is a company, proeuropean, as politicians call them, although i would be here i would question how proeuropean they are already, because for example, the Us Ambassador in warsaw, Mark Brzezinski , the son of a famous one, supports tusk and the opposition with his feet and hands, goes to rallies at them, here on the one hand we should see less hysteria and more polands discipline, perhaps a retreat in relation to europe, discipline, including in relation to euroatlantic solidarity, why, because berlin, today it is not completely independent, it is pursuing today rather than poland itself or the European Union it doesnt matter what is important here, the important thing is that on the one hand there will be some demilitarization of the region, many projects will be frozen, rearmament, or reduced, but on the other hand, poland will be more disciplined within the framework of this euroatlantic solidarity. Yes, berlin will be watching the americans, warsaw will be subordinate to him, but we must understand one more thing that tusk will bring to our, western border, a border that is not only geopolitical, but also a valuebased one, yeah, these are all. Nontraditional values , their propaganda from across the bug will come from the polish direction, but for now between peace , for example, and brussels, peace and washington, there is a contradiction on this score, and these contradictions are beneficial to us, okay, the third scenario, the third scenario, here are the latest polls, which were given by sociological services, they say that none of the parties will be able to create a coalition, and this is a scenario of a parliamentary crisis. Until the president ial elections, if not further, these leapfrogs of the electoral process, on the one hand , there will be a lot of statements, shouting, uproar, on the other hand, a technical government, the suspension of stability, of the polish government itself, it will relegate Foreign Policy issues to the background, that is, for us this will be a certain respite to the fact that we will be left a little alone for a while, this is beneficial for us, in fact , why, because unfortunately, the polish elites themselves drove themselves into the mousetrap of this discourse around the image of the enemy, they themselves swallowed the hook that they threw to their voters and. Lets return to my original question, a small note would you dare to make a forecast based on the election results, which of these three scenarios will work, in your opinion , many may not like this scenario, i think that the first scenario, because their political strategists show grace, they can contrive and pay dry out of the water while it works out, or fortunately, its better for us to prepare for this scenario, although we shouldnt discard other scenarios, why . Because the electorate is fucking disciplined, it chooses, unlike the opposition electorate, this is the electorate of pensioners, this is the electorate of residents of small mediumsized cities, and these are believers, so they are the first to come to the polling stations, everyone else is a residual. The church, which is financed by the state, among other things, and salaries are paid to the priests of the state, it will also play its role in this, of course, calling for people to come and vote, of course, but i still, as a person who understands the other side of the polish coin people, at a minimum, that they are slavs, that they the anglosaxon spirit is alien, yeah, i hope that. Society will begin to sober up sooner or later, i think its probably sooner, why, because the negative, economic, social dynamics that exist there. It will force, at a minimum, polish society to transform towards dialogue and the search for alternatives, if today poland actually has a choice between the formation of this pisov partocracy, yeah, and the formation of how poland will fit in, get used to the new multipolar world, thats one they have political strategist said either poland will pursue a onevector policy, or it will still manage and take, for example, the same experience of hungary and begin to be friends with china, with russia, with the arab states, a multivector policy for poland is polish National Interests, which are dictated by its geography, it will be interesting, how about the tuftology, forgive me, how the writing will fit in, but for this many centuries. Look, if we are talking about poland, we devoted a lot of time to it, of course, and the elections in poland, but there are still a huge number of, lets say, those who not only are they closer and more interesting to us, yes, but they have a certain meaning, they influence , lets say, the situation, both in belarus, and first of all on society, the socalled fugitives who fled to tulsha, including poland. I would like to ask you to briefly comment on this hysteria and panic, this is literally, judging by social networks, yes, which arose against the background of the president ial decree on changing the algorithm for issuing belarusian passports, and, naturally, against this background, the initiative that appeared among the begalys with the creation of a new passports of belarus, lets speak frankly, based on the social network . And the direct statements of those who are there, this situation has aggravated the panic mood , about which there is depression and a fatal distrust of tikhonovskaya, in your opinion, why is this initiative with new belarusian passports abroad, yes, it is obviously insignificant, these are those runaways who are there today, they really love such. A section of our history as the belarusian peoples republic. Sure, at least they think they know her, so i want to remind them that this cannot even be called education , this project also printed its passports, distributed these passports, but no one ever recognized these passports, and those who fit into the bpr project, they turned out to be persons either stateless or without documents, this story takes place, the project that tikhonovskaya is now demonstrating, well, this is the project of these very pseudopassports, because no one will recognize this document, otherwise it will be a precedent, otherwise it will a precedent, for example, some catalonia will want to print its passports, and south tyrol will have its own. Corsica will go, it will go, that is, it will be quite difficult for europe itself, the European Union, when an anarchy of documents occurs, yeah, uh, so here, i see a certain point that part of