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I have a day job of running a private equity firm. How do you define leadership . What is it that makes somebody tick . Let me ask you a question at the beginning. How does it feel to get up in the morning and know that 330 million americans want to know the state of your health that day . [laughter] jus. Ginsberg it is encouraging. It helps to know that people are rooting for you. It is not universal. [laughter] when i had pancreatic cancer in 2009, there was a senator whose name i dont recall but he said i would be dead within six months. That senator is now no longer alive. [laughter] [applause] david but you cant remember his name . Jus. Ginsberg no, i dont. David your current view is as long as you are healthy and able to do the job, you intend to stay on the court. Jus. Ginsberg as long as i am healthy and mentally agile. [applause] David Justice stevens and previously Justice Oliver wendell holmes, they retired when they were 90. Would you like to break the record . Jus. Ginsberg i spent the first weekend in july with Justice Stevens in what turned out to be the last week of his life. He was remarkable. He was 99 years old. He left the court at age 90. He had written four books. So yes, he is my role model. David today many people think that the court is very political, the people appointed to the court by democratic president s and those appointed by republican president s follow the political desires of the republican or democratic party. Is that a Fair Assessment and if it is not, why do people have that view . Jus. Ginsberg because agreement is not interesting. Disagreement is so the press tends to play up 54 or 53 decisions. If we can take last term as a typical example, you had 68 decisions after full briefing and arguments. Of those, 20 were 54 or 53 divisions, but 29 were unanimous. So we agree more often than we disagree. That is something i would like the audience to take away. That the division, yes, there are important questions, but the agreement rate is higher. David if you have a 54 decision, does one of the justices go to the other justices . Jus. Ginsberg there is none of that at the court. David if you vote for me on this one, i will vote for you on that one . [laughter] jus. Ginsberg it never happens but we are constantly trying to persuade each other and most of the time we do it through our writing. Every time i write a dissent, i am hopeful i can pick up this vote. David many people are surprised the civility that exists between justices even though they write not such favorable things. Justice scalia used to say not such wonderful things about your views, but you still went to the opera with him. Was that hard to do . Jus. Ginsberg not at all. Justice scalia and i became buddies when we were on the d. C. Circuit. What did i love most about him . His sense of humor. On the court of appeals he would sometimes whisper something to me. It would crack me up. [laughter] i had all i could do to contain hysterical laughter. But we had much in common. Our styles were different but those we hear a lot about, but both of us cared a lot about writing opinions so the lawyers and judges will understand what we are saying. David both of you and you still are a great opera lover. Where did you get your love of opera to begin with and where did the opera scaliaginsberg come from . Jus. Ginsberg the love began when i was 11 years old. I was in grade school in brooklyn, new york. My aunt, who was middle school, Junior High School english teacher, took me to high school in brooklyn where an opera was being performed. It was la giacanda. Not a likely choice for a first opera. There was a man at the time named dean gibson who wanted to turn people onto beautiful music. He took opera performances around to various schools and then condensed them into one hour, narrated in between. There were costumes, staging. My introduction, it was in 1944. David so the scaliaginsberg opera was written by a Law School Student . Jus. Ginsberg he was a music student. Derek wang is his name. He decided it would be useful to know something about the law. So he enrolled in his hometown law school, university of maryland. In his second year he took a constitutional law course. He read different opinions on one side, ginsberg and scalia and thought this could make a very funny opera. [laughter] jus. Ginsberg i will give you a taste of scaliaginsburg. It opens with scalias rage aria. It is a very undelegated in style. He says the justices are blind. How can they possibly spout this. The constitution says absolutely nothing about this. And then in my coloratura soprano voice, i answer, dear justice scalia, you are searching for right lines, but problems dont have easy answers, but the great thing about our constitution is like our society, it can evolve. That sets up the difference between us. The plot of scaliaginsberg is roughly based on the magic flute. [laughter] jus. Ginsberg scalia is locked up in a dark room. He is being punished for accepted dissenting. [laughter] jus. Ginsberg i then emerge from a glass ceiling. [laughter] [applause] jus. Ginsberg to help him pass the test he needs to pass to get out of the dark room. Then a character left over from don giovanni. He said, he is your enemy. Why would you want to help him . I say he is not my enemy, he is my dear friend. And then when we sing a wonderful duet [laughter] jus. Ginsberg that goes, we are different, we are one. Different in our approach to reading legal text, but one in our reverence for the constitution and for the institution we serve. David you are extremely well known around the country now but you werent when you went on the court. But now you have become more or less a rock star. Rbg. Jus. Ginsberg when i was asked what do you have in common with the notorious b. I. G. , i said it is obvious. [laughter] david so most of justices are relatively not recognized by the public, i would say. Recent years have changed but david so most of justices are relatively not recognized by the public, i would say. Recent years have changed but you are extremely well known around the country. But you werent when you went on the court, but now you have become more or less a rockstar. Rbg. You have movies about you, on the basis of sex and other things. Why do you think this has occurred, and is it something you enjoy or something you think comes with the territory now . Jus. Ginsberg how was the notorious rbg created . [applause] jus. Ginsberg it was the idea of a secondyear student at nyu law school. Who was very disappointed in the courts decision in the Shelby County case. That was the case in which the court declared unconstitutional a key provision of the Voting Rights act of 1955. An act that had been renewed time and again by overwhelming majority both sides of the asile. But the Supreme Court struck down the formula. The way it worked was, if you were a state, city, or county that kept africanamericans from voting, in the not so good old days, you could not make any change in voting legislation unless you cleared it with the department of justice, civil rights division, or with a District Court and the district of columbia. So it suppressed many laws that would have discouraged africanamericans from voting. The Supreme Court said the formula for who was discriminating in 1965 is now out of date. Congress needs to do it over because jurisdictions that were discriminating in 1965 may have clean hands today. The political problem was what member of congress, what senator or representative, would stand up and say, my state or my city or my county is still discriminating. Keep it under surveillance that the Voting Rights act provides. This wasnt going to happen. The act itself had a bailout provision. If a state, city, county indeed had clean hands for several elections, it could bail out. And that device i thought was all that was needed. In any event, the student was disturbed about the courts decision. He was angry, then she said to herself, anger is not a useful emotion. I am going to do something positive. She took the announcement of my dissent that i read from the bench in Shelby County, and she created this blog, hinting at the notorious rbg. A name she adopted from a wellknown rapper, the notorious b. I. G. , and when i was asked what in the world do you have in common with the notorious b. I. G. , i said it is obvious. [laughter] both of us were born and bred in brooklyn, new york. [applause] david you were born and bred in brooklyn. You have a bit of a brooklyn accent, you might admit. You were played in a movie by Felicity Jones who was not jewish or from brooklyn. How do you think she did . Jus. Ginsberg i thought she was fantastic. When i first met felicity, i said, you speak the queens english. How is the girl born and bred in brooklyn . She listened to many tapes of my speeches, my arguments at the court, and she was wonderful. David you mustve gotten a lot of attention for your exercise routine. [laughter] david when did that start . And you have your own trainer. Are you still lifting weights or whatever you are doing . Jus. Ginsberg as recently as tuesday. [applause] jus. Ginsberg i have been with the same personal trainer since 1999 when i had my first cancer bout. And my dear husband said after going through surgery, chemotherapy, radiation, i looked like a survivor of auschwitz. He said you must do something to build yourself up. Get a personal trainer. That is when i started, in 1999. Sometimes i get so absorbed in my work i dont want to let go. But when it comes time to meet my trainer, i drop everything. As tired as i may be in the beginning, i always feel much better when we finish. David did martys mother ever give you any advice . Jus. Ginsberg she gave me wonderful advice. We were married in her home. And she said, dear, i would like to tell you a secret of a happy marriage. David ok, so you met your husband marty. You were married for 56 years. You met him at cornell. Jus. Ginsberg i met him when i was 17 and he was 18. David what is the likelihood of a woman meeting someone they marry and that person wants to take care of child rearing and cooking as well as sharing all the other burdens of being married . Is that a common thing in your observation . [laughter] jus. Ginsberg it was extraordinary at any time but particularly in the 1950s. We had a 41 ratio, four men to every woman. It was a place parents want to send their daughters. If you could not find your man at cornell, you were hopeless. So then i met marty, and he was in fact the first boy i ever knew who cared that i had a brain. He was always my biggest booster. The cooking, that began i had two years between college and law school, marty was in the service. Those two years we spent in oklahoma, the principal artillery base. I got pregnant during the first year. When i went to give birth, my cousin sent marty a copy of the escoffier cookbook with english translation and said this is a good thing to do while your wife is away. Marty had originally been a chemistry major at cornell. And he treated this escoffier cookbook as a textbook. [laughter] he started with the basic stuff and worked his way through it. He gave up chemistry because it interfered with golf practice. He was a great golfer. Then he switched to government which was my major. He attributed his skill in the kitchen to two women, his mother and his wife. His mother i guess, that was an unfair judgment. But he was certainly right about me. [laughter] jus. Ginsberg i had one cookbook. It was called the 60 minute chef. That meant from when you entered the apartment to when it is on the table, no more than 60 minutes. [laughter] i had seven things i made and we got to number seven, and we went back to number one. [laughter] david did martys mother ever give you any advice . Jus. Ginsberg she gave me some wonderful advice. We were married in her home, and she said, just before the ceremony started, i would like to tell you the secret of a happy marriage. I would like to hear it. What is it . Every now and then, she said, it helps to be a little deaf. [laughter] jus. Ginsberg which is such wonderful advice. I have followed it assiduously to this very day. If i am dealing with my colleagues. When an unkind word is said, i tune out. David marty, who was a distinguished law professor and tax lawyer. You have two children, jane, your daughter who teaches at columbia jus. Ginsberg a professor of literary and artistic property law at columbia law school. [applause] david i understand you and she were the only motherdaughter team to be elected to the harvard law review. Is that correct . Jus. Ginsberg so far. David you have a son in the music business . Jus. Ginsberg james grew up with a passion for music but no talent as a performer. [laughter] so when he went to the university of chicago he was a disc jockey on the student radio station. Then in the years he was dropping in and out of law school he was also making recordings. One day he told us he liked what he was doing much more than his law classes. We said fine, that is what you want to do. Today he has a label and his recordings are gems. David you have any grandchildren . Jus. Ginsberg i have four grandchildren, two stepchildren and one great grandchild. [applause] david what do your grandchildren call you . Rbg . [laughter] jus. Ginsberg i am a jewish grandmother so i am called bubbie. David you were flooded with job offers from the major law firms . [laughter] jus. 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