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Ill get reaction from the Ukrainian Ambassador to the United States. She joins us live this hour. Welcome to our viewers here in the United States and all around the world. Wolf blitzer is off today. Im Alex Marquardt, and youre in the situation room. We begin with a historic show of unity from the United States, japan, and south korea. President biden hosting his asian allies at camp david with an eye towards the military and economic threats that theyre all facing in the Pacific Region right now. Cnns Paula Hancocks is standing by in seoul. First lets get straight to cnns Arlette Saenz at camp david. What came out of this summit . Reporter President Biden hosted his first leaders as president here at camp david, and the president is hoping that the symbolism of this location of the pezs retreat will lend itself to this moment as two u. S. Allies with decades of fraught history have come together with the u. S. To enter this new trilateral agreement in part as they are dealing with growing concern about a rising china in the region. President biden using the president ial retreat at camp david as the backdrop for a new chapter with south korea and japan. I can think of no more fitting location to begin the next era of cooperation. A place that has long symbolized the power of new beginnings and new possibilities. Reporter the president hosting the first ever summit between the three countries, a show of unity as they grapple with provocative moves by north korea and an increasingly assertive china. The summit was not about china. China obviously came up. Not to say we dont share concerns about the economic coercion or heightened tensions cause by china, but this summit was really about our relationship with each other. Reporter the u. S. , japan, and south korea are increasing Defense Cooperation with annual Military Exercises and intelligence sharing. Theyre also setting up a three of the way hot line to talk during times of crisis and will make their summit annual event. The agreement falls short of offering natostyle mutual defense assurances but ensures a commitment to consult if any one country faces a security threat. This is not about a day, a week, a month. This is about decades and decades of relationships that were building. Reporter This Trilateral Summit once considered unimaginable in part because of a forced Labor Dispute during japans forced occupation of crimea. President yoon and Prime Minister kishida have gone to Great Lengths to mend faces in the face of shared security challenges as chinas military and economic power grows in the region. Your leadership with the full support of the United States has brought us here because each of you understands that our world stands at an inflection point. Reporter camp david has a long history with high stakes diplomacy, the wooded retreat 60 miles from the white house teeing up groundbreaking negotiations including the accords in 1978 when jimmy carter acted as a mediator as a break through for israel and egypt. President biden making his case strengthened alliances are key to americas future while taking a swipe at his predecessor, former president donald trump. His America First policy walking away from the rest of the world made us weaker, not stronger. Americas strong with our allies and our alliances, and thats why will endure, and its a strength that quite frankly that increases all our the three of our strengths. Reporter now, President Biden went to Great Lengths to say this summit was not about china in part because they dont want to inflame tensions with china at this time, but so much of the president s efforts in drawing these allies close since the start of his administration has been with an eye on chinas influence in the region. And at the end of the Press Conference President Biden told me he does hope to have a conversation with president xi jinping this coming fall. Alex . Arlette saenz reporting from camp david. Thank vaerz much. Now lets go to seoul, south korea, and cnns paula hancock. Paula, whats the view from this historic summit where you are . Reporter alex, President Biden did call it courageous and that was a recognition of the Political Capital that both leaders of japan and south korea have spent in getting to this point. Public opinion certainly here in south korea is not behind president yoon when it comes to moving closer to japan. Certainly they share common threats in north korea and china, but they also share decades of mistrust from japans colonial past. Now, here in south korea the Intelligence Agency has warned that they could well be a launch of a missile potentially an Intercontinental Ballistic Missile in response to this. They say they see increased activity around Vehicle Production facilities and also military activity in the region, japan saying it had to scramble fighter jets as it saw russian planes off its coast. Weve also seen russia and china carried out a joint patrol in the east china sea. So certainly this is showing how important this trilateral agreement is. And we had a response from beijing as well, the Chinese Foreign ministry saying, quote, attempts to cobble together various exclusionary groupings and bring block confrontation and military blocs into the asia pacific are not going to get support and will only be met with vigilance and opposition from regional countries. You can see already china responding to what we are seeing here, potentially later this weekend we could see a north korea response to this. Experts also saying an intelligence here saying if north korea doesnt launch something this weekend in response to this, it could well do so next week as the u. S. And south korea start another round of joint military drills. Alex . We know youre watching very closely for that potential response. Paula hancocks in seoul, thank you very much for that report. Joining me now is the president emeritus on the counsel of foreign relations, richard hoss. Thank you have joining us on this extremely difficult day. I want to get how much this summit is about countering china and why you think President Biden is really trying to downplay that. Well, in large part it is about countering china, also north korea. It also reflects a new sobriety, if you will, in the region in the aftermath of the ukrainian war, russias invasion of ukraine. It shows that war is very much a possibility. So i think thats the case and more than anything else they are concerned about chinese reach. On the other hand, when people say its not about china, they dont want to rub it in chinas face. South korea and japan are both he heavily involved with china economically. The last thing anyone wants is a new taiwan crisis. It is about china in large part, but people want to downplay it. One of the key points of this is commitment to consult, that these three countries, south korea, japan, and u. S. Will consult each other if theres an emergency in the region. The Biden Administration insisting this is not a beginning of a Pacific Version of nato. How do you think that china is going to respond to that . Could it push them closer to russia and to north korea . I dont think so. And in the sense china wont be happy with any of this, theyve already signed a no limits relationship with russia. Well see whether it continues, though, to maintain certain limits like for example not arming them. North korea continues to produce missiles and nuclear material. Chinas not using the economic leverage it has. Again, chinas not happy about this, but this is in some ways the inevitable result of Chinese Foreign policy, whether its in the south china sea, whether its the pressure on taiwan, whether its the military buildup. Of course neighboring countries are going to respond. Whats interesting here is that japan is taking a much more forward leaning position when it comes to regional security, and its a real act of diplomacy or statesmanship that japan and south korea have come this close together and the United States deserves credit for helping to orchestrate this. But china in some ways has no one to blame but itself for creating a context in which Something Like this, these countries are beginning to come together more. When you see the Biden Administration strengthening these alliances im thinking about the agreement as well the u. K. And australia. We saw the emphasis for an alliance among nato at the summit earlier this summer. Do you believe these activities are allfornaught if President Biden loses the 2024 election . And how much do you think that the foreign partners are hedging their bets . These are awkward questions. We have moved from an americafirst to an alliancefirst policy in both europe and asia, whats now called the indopacific. Look, everyones got one eye cocked on the election. There is concern. President trump when he was in the oval office threatened to withdraw u. S. Forces from south korea. His what you might call it transactional approach to our allies did not go down well. So, sure, theres hedging and thats one of the reasons they dont want to necessarily alienate china anymore than they have to because in 18 months the willingness or ability of the United States to have their back may be much diminished if its donald trump rather than joe biden sitting in the oval office. We did hear in arlettes report that sensitive history between japan and south korea that injects another element into the historic nature of todays agreement. How does the u. S. , do you think, ensure that this unity lasts due to that history . I think were in pretty good shape now given the leadership of both countries. They made the difficult decisions. It was very controversial in both countries. What the japanese did was too much for some japanese, not enough for many in south korea. So both leaders have paid something of a political price, but i think theyve now done that. Id be surprised if their successors walk this back. Theres nothing to be gained from it particularly in light of the threats they both face from north korea and from china. So my guess is this will endure and this will part of the legacy of both these leaders as well as President Biden. This is an important piece of creative diplomacy that was on the stage today at camp david. Dr. Richard hoss, we appreciate your time and perspective on this important day. Thank you. Thank you. Just ahead new details on when donald trump will surrender in georgia and face his fourth criminal arrest. Youre in the situation room. In real time. jen so we partner with verizon to take our operations to the next levelel. marquis with a custom private 5g nenetwork. ella with verizon business, we get more control of production, efficiencies, and greater agility. marquis so our customers get what they want, when they want it. jen its not just a network. Its enterprise intelligence. vo learn more. Its your vision, its your verizon. 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You dont want to show up with the former president at a jail where he needs to be processed totally blind, not understanding how that process is going to go, how youre going to move him through the building, make sure he gets in and out safely and of course doesnt interact with the general population of the jail. And some of the other details, though, still need to be worked out. Were also learning trumps attorneys are expected to continue their conversations with the District Attorneys office early next week. You wanted to show up at that jail with a Bond Agreement already set. So whatever the conditions might be for bond for donald trump, any conditions of release, you want that hashed out ahead of time, you want a judge to sign off ahead of time so youre not lingering around to get processed at the jail. You do have new details about that jail, the jail in Fulton County where trump is expected to be processed and it has something of a notorious reputation. Thats right. Its not really a place you want to have to visit where trump and these other defendants are expected to turn themselves in. Its the subject of a federal civil rights investigation. There have been a number of Inmate Deaths there including a death where an inmate was covered in filth, covered in lice, and thats what setoff this federal investigation. If youre a normal defendant and showing up there to be processed its possible youre sitting there lingering and waiting for hours and hours. Obviously we dont expect that to happen to former president donald trump. But this is a difficult place. Even the sheriff who of course oversees this jail has said he needs more money, he needs more help. He welcomes this outside review in order to get this jail up to standards. Sara murray, thank as always for your terrific reporting. Its going to be a busy week next week. Lets get more on trumps multiple indictments with the former d. C. Echief of Homeland Intelligence and michael moore. Thank you both for joining us this evening. Michael, i want to start with you. We know the former president s team is negotiating with Georgia Official tz about when and how hes going to surrender. Were expecting that next thursday or friday. So what issues are they trying to hammer outright now . Therell be general issues about whether or not hell be fingerprinted, whether or not hell have a mug shot taken. Theyll be talking about as sarah mentioned the terms of release so he can have a relatively smooth move through the jail system, the Fulton County jail. And i really think you have to start with acknowledging this is different because youre talking about a former president. So there has to be Security Situations there you wouldnt have for other defendants, the timing you wouldnt have when you talk about other defendants coming in. So this is really just how the mechanism will work. This is different than a Federal Court case because you dont have a situation where they immediately go in front of a judge and theres a big discussion about the charges and arraignment and all that. Thats scheduled for a later time. This is really just about being processed, having that initial information taken and having them released on some type of bond. It is such a historic unique situation. Weve seen the preparations getting into place for quite some time now. And now we have a tentative date or at least a period of the end of next week when were expecting to see the former president. So what are the security conversations, the Security Preparations that are happening behind the scenes right now . Well, initially when we saw these indictments coming down we were worried about physical security for the courthouses. Weve seen thats kind of petered out. New york, miami, very small crowds and obviously georgia small crowds. Now what were seeing are individuals Making Threats online. So theyre not coming out. Theyre not exposing themselves. Theyre Making Threats to the grand jury members. Theyre Making Threats to the judges. And so they still have to protect the physical space to show that deterrent, but now they have to do a little bit more and get some analytical heft behind it, look on what we call open source intelligence, look whos Making Threats. A lot of people Making Threats, they have to triage those threats properly. I want to talk about the timing of this trial in georgia. Weve seen President Trumps attorneys sorry, excuse me, not the one in georgia, the Special Counsels case in Federal Court for january 6th. The former president s team saying they dont want a trial until 2026 when the former when the special Prosecutors Team theyve requested for the beginning of january next year. So theres a huge disparity there. Weve heard from Chris Christie whos running for president right now talk about the timing. I want to listen to what he said about the timing. Take a listen. Im actually surprised they didnt ask for a trial six months after his Death Certificate was signed. They dont need that much time at all, and the fact is that i think that this judge will probably settle in on some time the summer of 2024. Michael, what do you think of that . Summer of 2024 thats later than the Special Counsel would like and a fair bit earlier than the trump team. I think the Special Counsels request for january of next year was just about as rudhikilous as trumps request of 2026. I think the hope probably by the trump team there will be some compromise made. Im sure there are folks who will want to have the trial take place before the election. The reality is the lawyers have already started talking about can we be effectb, and trump still has a right under the sixth amendment to have effective reparation. When theyve been given now 11 million pages of documents in an investigation that by all accounts has taken years to put together, so theyve got witnesses to talk to, documents to look at, metadata to go back and scour as well. This is not a small effort, so we may as people have been sort of watched this and listened to it for a long time, think this is a fairly simple matter. Its not as youre preparing for case of this magnitude. So i think its likely well see probably after the election. I think shes going to run up on the time clock and thats going to cause a problem, and thats the Biggest Issue right now. And we saw a glimpse into that around the January 6th Congressional Hearing as well, how much work into that. We just have a couple moments left. We did see a woman from texas charged for threatening to kill the judge, judge chutkan here in washington. Shes overseeing the election interference trial. Are you concerned about Chilling Effect when you see these threats against witnesses and juries . Absolutely. And if you cant serve on a grand jury without fear for your family or public safety, you know, Grand Injuries and serving on those type of civil type of bodies really undergird the legal system. Im sure people looking at during Jury Selection the public officialvise to make sure people feel safe, but were not seeing the end of this clearly. I think its going to be a dark day for many people who want to look at serving on Grand Injuries and injuries alike and concerning whether they want to raise their hand. Thank you both for coming in. Appreciate it. And coming up republican president ial candidates are taking the stage in georgia, and sources tell cnn donald trump is expected to be a noshow at next weeks republican debate. Well tell you what hes going to be doing instead here in the situation room. Businesses need 5g solutions today. 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Tonight word is spreading among Donald Trumps republican rivals about his plans to skip the first primary debate, which is due to take place next week. Sources tell cnn that trump is expected to instead do an interview with the former fox news host, Tucker Carlson. Cnns eva mccan is in atlanta where some candidates have been attending a republican event there. Eva, so what are trumps 2024 opponents saying about that decision to skip the debate next week . Well, alex, for the most part trump was really not discussed at all or at much at this event and that was by design. Radio host eric erikson didnt invite him. The conversation here in atlanta about 45 minutes each with erikson really allowed them to focus on their visions for america. And without trump here sucking up the oxygen, they had a unique opportunity to connect with conservative activists from across the region here in georgia, south carolina, and florida. There was one moment when Governor Ron Desantis did talk a little bit about the debate and how he believes trump should show up. Lets listen. Everyone should debate if you qualify. I think you owe it to the people to put out your vision, to talk about your record, answer questions about your record and decisions that you may have made or not made. And if youre not willing to do that, then i think people are not going to look kindly on that. Reporter so in addition to Governor Desantis we also heard from senator tim scott and nikki haley as well. You also spoke with the former Vice President mike pence today. What did he tell you . Reporter yeah, the former Vice President tried to get a sense of what he might say on the debate stage next week. He got a lot of questions about trump, didnt really want to address them head on. But mostly talked about how he plans to bring up Kitchen Table issues on that debate stage and make his case as to why hes the best candidate to go up against President Biden in a general election. Lets listen. When i reach that debate stage next week were going to be talking about the issues the American People are focused on. Is the former president s lead right now just insurmountable . What can do you to catch up at this point . Well, just watch and learn. Reporter so watch and learn he tells me, alex. Another long day tomorrow here in atlanta. We will hear from governor christie as well as Congressman Will Hurd and Vivek Ramaswamy has these candidates continue to make their case to voters. We will certainly be watching. For more on the story were joined by Alice Stewart and maria car dona. Thank you both for joining me this evening. I want to ask you about this decision by the former president to counter program, to do this interview with the fox news host Tucker Carlson. How much do you think that his absence from that debate reduces the significance of it . Look, hes going to have his audience with Tucker Carlson, but the good thing is that the rnc is hosting this debate for republican primary voters, and those republican primary voters will tune in. And if nothing else this gives those candidates the opportunity as the former Vice President said to talk about the issues that the American People concerned with. Look, i talked to pence this morning on the radio. He wants to talk about inflation. He wants to talk about energy and federalism. These other candidates, many of them want to sort of introduce themselves to the national stage. That gives them the opportunity, so from their standpoint it is it is a positive that donald trump is not on there, but from the Republican Voters standpoint its unfortunate that he is giving them the middle finger saying i dont care enough about this party to show up at your debate, and i dont care enough to sign the loyalty pledge. But, look, he and Tucker Carlson, no one has an axe to grind with fox than the two of them. And clearly donald trump looked at his dance card next week and thought i can play golf, i can join the rnc debate, i can join Tucker Carlson or surrender to Fulton County authorities. Theres still time and room on that stage for other candidates to join. One of the people whos desperately trying to get on the stage is former arkansas governor asa hutchinson. Hes not yet qualified. This is what he had to say. Were getting close. We have until monday evening to qualify for the 45,000 individual voters, and its up to all the viewers. Asa hutchinson not yet at that 40,000 number. If he and other candidates dont hit that number, they dont qualify for the debate, do you think they are still viable in this republican race . I dont think they are, alex. I mean right now i think its even tough to say that many of those that are going to be on the stage are even viable. Look, donald trump right now has a prohibitive lead. It doesnt mean that hes going to be the nominee, but it means he has the biggest chance out of all of them there that he will be the nominee regardless of what happened. And whats interesting is alice says, you know, donald trump not going to this debate is giving the middle finger to Republican Voters. The Republican Voters a vast majority of them will take that middle finger and will take the nine other fingers that donald trump has as well. Thats how much they love him and support him and will do everything they can so that he continues to be at the forefront. And right now it seems like every other candidate has their hands tied behind their backs because they dont know what to do. Mike pence says watch and learn. The only thing weve learned is that nothing he does or nothing anyone else done has been effective. Weve also seen this Strategy Memo from the prodesantis super pac that urged desantis essentially to dedefend donald trump. We heard Chris Christie then say if what hes going to do is defend donald trump, then he should just drop out of the race and endorse him. Why would desantis even consider defending the frontrunner, the man whos just ahead of him in the polls . Well, one answer is the base. He wants to as all of the candidates do, they want the base to look at them in a light that if donald trump falls off the radar, which is unlikely, but they want to ingratiate the base, and they also want to broaden the base. Look, heres the thing. We know chris kristi has every single quiver in his arrow pointed at donald trump. The key is for all the candidates they also must spread the wealth and attack donald trump because the only way you get to joe biden is through donald trump, but clearly the memo here was when you see christie spend every ounce of his energy going after the president , it wouldnt hurt if you show the base that you have Donald Trumps back on occasion. It is a very tricky line for these candidates to walk. Maria car dona, weve got to leave there. Alice stewart, thank you both for joining us. Just ahead cnn has learned there are u. S. Concerns about ukraines recent strikes on russian occupied crimea. Ill be asking the latest kwemts in the war on ukraine with the Russian Ambassador for ukraine. Stay with us. Carvana. So i can practicallyly do It Frm Memory now. You just enter your Lilicense Plate or your vin, answer a few questions. Boom, you get a real offer. True story. Its still shocking how easy it was to sell my car to carvana. Sell your car to carvana today. Meet the future. A chef. 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Cnns chief International Correspondent Nick Paten Walsh has been covering the story for us in ukraine. Nic . I think its important to point out many waern officials you speak to consider ukraine to be a red line, a hot button issue for putin. They are worried if he felt like he might lose the peninsula that he essentially annexed without Firing A Shot in 2014, that might lead the kremlin to act extremely irrationally. Theres no real evidence of that point to suggest people need to be deeply concerned about that, but that may behind some of the thinking they should concentrate less on Southern Crimia and the Counter Offensive but essentially watching how these two areas feed each other, it seems muddled thinking. Its clear russia has a lot of assets in crimea and by that bridge running through the russian mainland and much of that is transferred up further to the north east to assist Russian Troops defending that corridor that is the main target at this point of ukraines forces. And so we see bridges, ammo, depots, roads, Military Infrastructure and railways being taken out by targeted strikes by ukrainians its likely that will have a huge impact what russia can do to defend those positions around the zaporizhzhia front where im standing. I think well see more russian officials worried crimea will be a flash point down the line if ukraine were in an ideal world able to push the forces down and threaten russias presence there. Ukraine does appear to behitting infrastructure there to assist in the Counter Offensive in the south. Some suggestions the f16 program utterly vital for ukraines move. They need Air Superiority to move faster and that might be getting traction. Denmark saying, yes, we can start training in the next ten days or so. The netherlands behind it as well. The americans clear they will supply the jets, but this could take months still. They may not see them in ukraine until next year, and thats a real sore problem with ukrainian troops dying every day on that Southern Front facing russian Air Superiority. Nick paten walsh in ukraine, thank you very much. For more im joined by ukraines ambassador to the United States. Ambassador, thank you so much for joining us today. We have seen as nick was just noting there a real significant increase on ukrainian attacks, on the Crimean Peninsula in the past few weeks, but a senior u. S. Defense official tells my colleagues that, quote, its not doing anything decisive and it would probably be better for them just to focus on the Counter Offensive. How do you respond to that . Well, first of all, i have to tell you that no official ever said that to me and were very grateful. And everyone from President Biden to Secretary Blinken has been very clear i Secretary Austin that crimea is ukraine and crimea is no different than any other part. More importantly i think lets not follow that trap which putin and his War Criminals are trying to set there because they have drawn so many red lines for us before. And they have said a number of times they have sham referendums and the Russian Federation which is as illegal as aid in crimea there would be a red line, and that did not stop us from liberating our land because we all know that its all ukraine. But also they did not lead to anything on russia in addition to the war crimes they already commit. Since 2014 and since february 24th. So we just have to stay focused on what we need to do. We need to restore territorial integrity and we need to defend ukraine and liberate all ukrainians. That is why theyre trying to again talk about it. But, no, crimea is no different. Ukrainian troops and i just saw this last month trying as hard as they can to liberate that territory, to punch through those russian lines particularly in the south, but there is a growing sense, ambassador, particularly here in washington that it is perhaps likely the Counter Offensive will not achieve the goal of breaking through the russian lines there in the south and try to get down to that sea. How do you think ukrainian troops will be able to do that . Well, ive seen those reports and naming some sources. I have to tell you with our partners, with Secretary Austin and his team, and general milley and everyone whos working with us on a daily basis, the goals we all have and the ultimate goal to liberate all ukraine, we are achieving those goals. Yes, its a difficult fight. Yes, its 820 miles of a very difficult combat line, but we were prepared for it and were doing it on a daily basis. I would actually disagree. I think we are achieving our goals. And i have to remind also our viewers and americans who support us and thank you for your support that were also liberating our land. So our great defenders are doing it in a very careful way contrary to russians who are simply erasing and destroying our citizen villages. You already saw it in the south and east of our country. Our troops are liberated so we also liberating our people there. Ambassador, so much of your job here is to make these requests for aid and weaponry to the administration, to congress. Are there additional weapons from the west in this moment that could help ukraine achieve that goal of breaking through that russian line . Well, first of all, the quantity, of course, the quality itself as military people say, we still need more air defense. We still need more artillery. We still need more miss and everything were receiving now including tanks, including Armored Vehicles because we still did not win and we have to liberate our territories. Of course we very much welcome todays official confirmation from the United States, from Jake Sullivan and everyone in the team and Secretary Blinken on the willingness and readiness of the United States to through the transfer of f16 platforms. As you know there was early approval, so we need all the capabilities not only to win today but also to build the future force of ukraine. Sorry, go ahead, ambassador. Sorry to cut you off. The force ukraine will need as a new member of the European Union where were moving towards and also as a future member of nato. On that f16 training, that is due to start taking place very soon in denmark. Ambassador, thank you so much for coming on this evening. We really appreciate it. Thank you very much, alex. And coming up, federal investigators are now on the ground in hawaii searching for the answers to what caused the wildfires. Stay with us. 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Its that thousand missing number that continues to haunt people here in such a profound way. Here we are ten days after the fire. Communication is largely back intact. And the fact that so many people have not reached out with proof of life is just devastating to Community Leaders here. The five stages of grief are denial, bargaining, anger, depression, and acceptance. And you can see people cycling through those almost in real time right now. The locals here in lahaina held a Press Conference a short time ago basically driven out of frustration for the state and federal response to this. Their three demands were stop talking about reopening lahaina because they have they need time and space and time to heal, include the residents in this community in any future plans. Theyre already talking about rebuilding. Native hawaiians kind of own the table. And then there is a Transparency Law in hawaii. 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