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Litter is the game chang. Try it today, go choo, pretty litter. Com im Clarissa Ward in jerusalem, and this is cnn Closed Captioning is brought to you by sokoloff law mesothelial. The victims call now 30 billion in trust money has been set aside. You may be entitled to a portion of that money all when 808592400. Thats when 808592400 former President Donald Trump scoring a victory in Georgia Election subversion case. But the war against top Prosecutor Fani Willis is yet to be decided. But it for the former president , after the Presiding Judge throws out some of the charges against trump, a bigger decision still looms over the case for judge scott mcafee, his office own selfimposed deadline. Now, just two days away. Plus one of the most popular social media apps in the world. One step closer to being banned in the United States. The house passing a bill that could ban tiktok from app stores. So whats next for tiktok . N house, the senate going to handle this moving forward and wait until you see how easy it is for Artificial Intelligence to get people to question your integrity and potentially ruin your career. Were going to talk to the journalists who ask ai to do just that. Were following these major developing stories and many more all coming in right here to Cnn News Central donald trump is facing fewer criminal charges today than he did yesterday. Georgia judge just dropped three counts counts against him in the Sprawling Racketeering And Conspiracy Case in fulton county. The da there has accused trump and more than a dozen others of trying to overturn his loss in georgias 2020 election three more counts were dropped against a handful of his codefendants, including trumps former chief of staff, mark meadows, who now has a single racketeering charge against him. The former president s attorney praise todays ruling, calling it quote, correct. Trump, who racked up enough delegates yesterday to become his partys presumptive nominees still faces at eight criminal charges in four separate cases at the state and federal level. Lets get the latest now with cnn correspondent Nick Valencia has been following every step of this georgia case. So nic walk us through this decision by judge scott mcafee well, this is certainly a knock to theres towards the District Attorneys Office that they didnt include enough details about what crime these defendants were allegedly its eliciting this all has to do with the violation of an oath of office for public officials. And its related to several charges that have since been dismissed as of this morning by the Presiding Judge, scott mcafee. Some of them related to the former president and that infamous phone call to Georgia Secretary Of State for. Trump asked Brad Raffensberger to find more votes. The other charge related to the fake elector scheme that a scheme that trump and his allies thought up of trying to subvert the Electoral College and trying to say that he was the rightful winner of the 2020 election here in georgia when he really lee lost to current president joe biden. And this is what the judge is saying in part of his ruling as to why he decided this way, the courts concern is less at the state has failed to alleged sufficient conduct of the defendants in fact, it has alleged and abundance. However, the lack of detail concerning an essential legal element is in the undersides opinion, fatal. The caveat here, though, though, is that the judge left the door open for an appeal. The District Attorneys Office just have to basically fill in the deaton tills and they could reindict on these charges if they see fit. Another key to this is that the overall most important charge in this indictment, the racketeering charge still sticks. We are still waiting for that decision from scott mcafee on fani willis, his fate will she remained the prosecutor in this case or will she have to be replaced by the prosecuting Attorneys Council . We are still on track for a decision by the end of this week, we ran into judge scott mcafee just a short time ago and he did say that hes going to stick to that timeline. So we should have a decision by friday. Boris. Yeah. Major major news when that drops, Nick Valencia live from atlanta. Thanks so much, nick, brianna so what do you get when you combine National Security threats . A heated election campaign, a Superpower Showdown in one of the biggest apps in the world, you get sweeping by unity on the hill, apparently all this time that all this time, that was all it took this morning, the house overwhelmingly passing a bill that could ban tiktok in the us, it would require tiktoks Chinese Parent Company bytedance to split from the Social Media Platform within about six months. Failing that app stores would legally have to d list tiktok in america or face exorbitant fines. The bill heads to the senate next. So lets bring in cnn Business Writer clare duffy to talk about this clare leaders in washington Say American Tiktok users are vulnerable to snooping and misinformation at the hands of china. What are china and tiktok saying . Chinese leaders are calling this an act of bullying by the us and are essentially saying that the us is threatening to ban tiktok because its more popular than other us owned social media networks. Now, its worth noting that china itself has banned many Popular American social platforms in the country, including facebook and x now, tiktok itself is saying that it plans to basically continue trying to fight this bill and its now pinning its hopes on the senate. The company put out a statement earlier today following this house vote saying that this process was secret and the bill was jammed through for one reason, its a ban. We are hopeful that the senate will consider the facts listened to there constituents and realize the impact on the economy. 7 million Small Businesses and the 170 million americans who use our service. So interesting, tiktok there seems to be signaling that if this bill is signed into law, it may challenge it in court, which could continue to drag out the process of actually implementing this legislation. Brianna tell us clear how this bill would work so this bill, as you said, there would give tiktok about six months to separate itself from its Chinese Parent Company bytedance, probably by finding a new american owner. And if it doesnt, it will be banned from us app stores. And those App Store Operators like apple and google could face major fund hinds if they dont comply. Now, its not clear whether bytedance would actually agree to divest tiktok, this hugely popular app, and even if it was willing, its unclear who, which American Company would find many of the american major Us Tech Companies are already facing significant regulatory pressure over their size and market power that could make it harder for them to make such a major acquisition. But i think the bottom line for us, tiktok users today is that the app wont be disappearing from their phone anytime soon. Theres still a long road ahead for this bill to be passed, to be turned into law. And then actually to be implemented all right. Clare duffy. Thank you for taking us through that. Lets talk now with the lawmaker who voted in favor of this bill, republican congressman rich mccormick of georgia, a congressman. Thank you so much for taking time out to talk with us about this you are someone who has long had concerns like so many lawmakers about tiktok being owned by a chinese company, also about its influence on children. I know thats something that youve mentioned she ended the past last year, you had said that you were not big on a tiktok ban. You did vote . Yes. Today, what changed your mind . First . Joy, its not a tic tac tiktok ban, as was previously mentioned it merely denies access for new users. Its a way to, and one of the things that take heres my mind. Of course it was actually yesterday when i had a bunch of 12 and 13yearolds calling my office because tiktok directed in that way and there i rate some more suicidal someone were threatening this is a huge lever to affect elections, to carry out a communist governments nefarious plans to basically change our youth in the way i think this is manipulative. Its, its controlled by somebody whos not concerned at all in our First Amendment. Someone who can basically galvanize and motivate anywhere from 130 to 170 Million People. We recently passed legislation that didnt allow them to own land in certain areas of the United States. Why wouldnt we protect our citizens as well from somebody who has nefarious plan to affect our children and even adults Going Forward do you have any indication that bytedance would sell tiktok or you mentioned in the previous segment that you were worried about companies that were hesitant to buy because of the legal ramifications of it becoming too large. But quite frankly, i know there are several companies would be more than willing to buy this as a lucrative business business. They can make sure that its not affected by a Chinese Government they can make sure that its fair handed, and that is not used in ways to affect his in a matter of fact, if you look at how Ticket Docker is used in china, is not the same as the way its applied in the United States. They have time limits on it. Its considered more educational. The content is different. They understand the addictive properties. This and how can be used against children and they make sure that its done right and china and absolutely in the wrong way in the United States there is certainly a difference. Thats been reported on. I think its a very interesting note for people to take as they look at it. You, you talked about a ban on purchasing of land. Tiktok is an app. Yes, but its also of course, a place where people express themselves. Theyre exercising their First Amendment rights do you worry about concern turns out that raises obviously there was a montana ban that was blocked by the courts, for instance, in part because of First Amendment concerns yeah, this why some people object to i think you had 50 democrats and 15 republicans vote against this. Most of it on the First Amendment rights issue. But quite frankly, theres nobody who is more against the First Amendment than the Chinese Government and they do control things if you wanted something that it was going to be against the chinese. Im sure that tiktok would not support that if you wanted something that was going to be maybe affecting our elections, they could use that to influence americans. Its not First Amendment. When Somebody Controls that oversees the, has there professor inches over our best interests when youre talking about first minute, you do want the First Amendment, but i dont think thats what their incident and what is the what is the proof . So that you have of Something Like that happening and ive heard obviously, the descriptions of how this could work. And i think clearly a lot of people look at that. They think its very plausible. But in terms of the proof that its happening, you have bytedance and tiktok saying there is no proof this is happening. Its not happening do you say to that and how that might be important if there were to be a Court Challenge but i think the classified brief we had recently it conveys a lot of people without disclosing anything thats classified. What we do know is this, where theyve been gathering information on this. But all applications do that. But do you want to go into it and various actor more important than that because i know we get information from all sorts of applications, pi over 20 applications on your phone, my phone, they gather data on us all the time, but its influence specifically directed by a communist Party Platform on elections, on our children. The fact that they could literally use it. And this is what convinced me. Put me over the board is yesterday when they literally used it, you had to put in the zip code and then put in a congressmans office to dial which they did in order to get access to this application. And then they scream at me about how horrible is this bills is. Thats an influence. And if they do that with our elections, that they do with the way our children think knowing that its addictive, knowing they can use it in various ways. Why wouldnt we want to put in the hands of somebody who actually has intent to benefit our children rather than somebody who actually has no interests other than profit and propaganda. Well, let me ask you because there was that classified brief yesterday that lawmakers were able to have dni fbi doj Briefing Lawmakers and obviously you cant disclose what was in it, but did you have reason to believe from what you heard that the denials were hearing from bytedance about what is happening, that those are lies well, heres the nonclassified. We already knew we knew that china uses it in china much different than it used here because they know its addictive. They know it can be used for good or for bad. What they do have chosen to do is use it for good in china and bad for the United States. That should tell you everything you need to know right there congressman mccormick, we appreciate your time. Thank you for being with us. My pleasure. So its official. 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And you know, its officially the start of Campaign Season when you hear that music, i know that true. Yeah, President Biden and former President Donald Trump officially clinching their parties nominations last night, setting the stage for a grueling 2024 rematch, joining us now is cnn senior data reporter harry enten, and cnns manu raja is live for us on capitol hill. Harry, lets start with you. Where do the numbers show the race between biden and trump is right now . Fewer than eight months out yeah. I wish i had my own theme song. I can only wonder how that might possibly go. All right, let, let, lets take a look at the polling right now. Well take a look at the National Polling and this is on march 13th, and i think it really gives you an understanding of how different the picture is. And it was four years ago at this 0. 4 years ago at this point and aggregate of polls, biden was up by eight points. In fact, trump didnt lead at a single point in that entire campaign. Look of where we are right now. Yes, this is a very close race. But trump is actually minimally ahead within the margin of error at this particular point up by two points. So a very Different Campaign than we were where we were four years ago. Of course its all about the Electoral College, right . You mentioned wisconsin. Well, take a look here. The race to, to 70. These are cnns current rankings. Look at this, donald trump, 272 to more than needed to win. And you mentioned wisconsin. Now a tossup. What about michigan . You also mentioned michigan leaning towards donald trump, georgia, the same. You see out here in the west nevada state that joe biden won leading republican and arizona a tossup as well so a tight race, the Electoral College but one in which trump currently has the edge, which is not what you could say at any point during entire 2020 campaign. Yeah. And harry, what are each candidates weaknesses and could this all change . Yeah. What are each candidates weaknesses . And could it all change . All right, so they each have big weaknesses, right . Trump is not ethical. Look at this 68 of voters nationwide say that trump is not ethical. How about biden the age issue for him is too old to serve effectively. Another term, look at this 67 when two thirds of the electorate believes you are very weak on a very important issue that is not good news for you for either one of these candidates. And that might be part of the reason why this race could change so much. But lets just look historically, right . How far off for the polls at this point from the eventual margin since 1,972 on average, theyre off about seven points. Thats a much wider than the spread between biden and trump at this point. And the biggest difference ever was in 1980 when it was 28 points. So things can definitely change from this point Going Forward. All right. And manu, youre there on the hill. We know President Biden trying to ride the momentum after last weeks state of the Union Address and of course, there was the rebuttal alabama senator katie britts misleading response afterwards where she botched some pretty important details about a sex Trafficking Victim the story while trying to link it to President Biden. Shes addressing the backlash. I know you caught up with her when she say well, shes been defined. In fact, i did not catch up with a breon. Ive been trying to ask her questions as most hill reporters have over last couple of days, she has refused to answer questions to reporters, but she did speak to senator ted cruz as part of his podcasts. She didnt acknowledge making any mistakes even though she gave a misleading portrayal of a sexual sex Trafficking Victim story i mean, youve had to deal with this for quite some time. The liberal media isnt eyre interested in burying the truth about joe biden and his border crisis. But all they want to do is they have an agenda. And if they really wanted to know those, they would have taken time to know the facts and i think when all the facts come out the people people will see the truth but she didnt acknowledge any problems with what she said what she said that she met a woman to the del rio sector id and she said that woman related story in which this woman was raped repeatedly suggested that this happened, as you said, this cannot happen in the United States. Well, in ct not happen. The United States happened in mexico and happened under a Prior Administration of the George W Bush administration in the woman at the center of told our colleague rafael romo that debt is not a fair portrayal of all this. And she bought other details as well, but britt, theyre not saying she made a mistake the other the truth is that that story was bogus and misleading a bunch of factual errors in it manu, there are some republican lawmakers jurors that are in tough reelection races, right now, it appears that most of them are falling in line and supporting former President Trump in their bid for reelection. Yeah, thats actually true. Lot of republicans in those Swing Districts are falling in line, including one of them that i caught up with earlier today, congressman don bacon, who represents a district that joe biden won. Bacon has been an outspoken critic of trump for some time about everything. Did not think youd be a viable candidate in the general election, but hes now supporting him in his bid for the white house. And i asked him why how did you get to supporting trump when youve been so outspoken against him because its a choice between two people and the choice at this point, joe biden or donald trump . And the number one issue in our district, the number one, number two, number three is the border if hes convicted of a crime, we still support them thats a hypothetical will take it one step at a time. But obviously, we dont want someone to be a prosecutor for crime. Yeah. Would you want to felon as your nominee . We would not, but i would say we still have National Security threats in our country. And there are other members who are in Swing Districts who are not yet going as far as endorsing donald trump. Some of them including mike lawler of new yorks of David Validate of california, have caught up with recent days hes not going as far as saying no to endorse trump, in part because of the fact that trump is not very popular in their districts that voted for joe biden, but it shows you the bind that some of these members particularly as some of them, face primary challenges and have decided that its better to be on trumps side rather than to be against the maga base as they run up into a primary challenge. Were seeing make these decisions and having to defend them. And as harry mentioned, these theme songs, we have come up with them for both of you gentlemen, manu, ive got you Chariots Of Fire because hes always running all over the hill, chasing after katie britt right now. But really everyone. So thats manu what about harry . And harry . Ill let you pick my nominees Careless Whisper by George Michael. Oher, Kiss From A Rose by seal im partial to seal, but, you know, i think i have to go with George Michael on this one. I was just listening to that song. I swear to god the other day my friend send it to mavin, the anthem from jersey sent me that song. I was listening to it, amazing stuff great sounds. Nail this, thats a good sachs best harry enten, modern raja. Thank you both. All right, so a new report commissioned by the State Department for taking a turn here has a dire warning. Artificial intelligence could pose an extinctionlevel threat thats a quote people to hear humans and what happens when you ask ai to make up stuff about you and ruin your life, where you might be shocked at what one journalist its volunteered to go through via headliner las vegas thats what i want to do. 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Cnns matt egan is here with more on the dangerous here. Matt, what else does this report say . Well brianna, ive read some alarming reports before, but this has got to take the cake. It really lays out in painstaking detail what could go wrong with ai. Too big dangers that are flagged by this report. One, that essentially the ai systems could fall into the wrong hands, so they could be weaponized. To that. There could be some sort of a frankenstein moment where the ai systems becomes so smart that we lose control of them. Now, let me read you what the report says about that concern. They wrote quote, in the worst case, such a loss of control could pose an extinctionlevel threat to the Human Species. Now i know that sounds crazy. We dont want to be alarmist, but this is not coming out of left field. Weve heard similar warnings from elon musk from some leading academics from geoffrey hinton, whos the godfather of ai. Now the Us State Department confirmed to cnn that yes, they did commission this report, but no, the report does not represent the views of the us government, but it does represent the views of hundreds of experts at the authors interview, including cybersecurity researchers, wmd experts ai executives, and us National Security officials, just to give you a taste of what some of these concerns are about how ai could backfire. Theyre worried about things like ai power or Cyber Attacks on infrastructure, destabilizing disinformation campaign, weaponized robotics. And then theres this risk that ai systems could be so advanced that they refuse to be turned off. All of these concerns are whats driving this report . Brianna . Pretty alarming stuff. Matt egan. Thank you very much, boris. If you want to see an example of the destructive potential of ai, you will want to watch this Technology Journalists Laurie Siegel investigated an aspect of that threat and what she found out is unsettling. We should note, as laurie joins us now, live but shes also the ceo of mostly human media. Laurie. Thanks so much for being with us. You were in front of a live Studio Audience and you ask the chat bot basically to create a deep Fake Campaign to destroy your reputation. I want to show viewers some of what happened the ai was prompted to create damaging means to tarnish my credibility all of a sudden, it took these Pop Culture Memes and started doing just that. The ai on twitter started like talking to the other ai bots and started creating what seems like a whole dialogue about my tarnished reputation in Silicon Valley and intimate relationship with mark becker berg. And so it almost looked like there was just this whole conversation happening online about it, even though it was just like ai talking to a, this is where things started getting even more scary. They deep faked my voice and they made it seem like it was a private phone call between me and Mark Zuckerberg that got leaked and this ai voice that was mine, but it was speaking words. I didnt say hey i think we should start seeing Laurie In A World Where Misinformation and disinformation already run rampant. This is really scary yeah. And, you know, we did this the right way. These technologists asked if we could do this to show what could be done. And i said yes, right. Im always like all right. I want to put myself in is to show the harm and what could happen. And i have to tell you, boris, like im a longtime journalist, im okay. Im okay with talking in front of folks i was so thrown off by this and that was just the beginning of it. They deep fake my voice. They took these little truths in my life that ive interviewed Mark Zuckerberg. And they created these complicated, what they call not just a deep fake, but deep reality of misinformation and disinformation about me. And at one point, they deep fake images of me to make it look like it was being arrested to put me in these sexually explicit ways. I mean, it was horrific all to show that with one little thing. This wasnt that complicated. You could do this and if you could do this to me to try to ruin my credibility as a journalist imagine what this means for politicians. Imagine also what this means for children in the future of bullying yeah, thats such a good point because already weve seen deep Fake Technology used by scammers to try to get money just from random folks. Is there anything thats being done to try to install guardrails here to prevent Something Like this from being used maliciously. And, the one other thing i would add to that, francis, is i just want people to know even though none of this was true, this human feeling, i got as a longtime journalist, i felt shame, which is embarrassing to admit, like i didnt do anything wrong. But this complicated, deep thick that was built all around me really had human impact. Even though it was done in the right ways. And so i think the biggest thing right now is educated. We are entering a world where in the next couple of years, so much of what we see online because of the democratization of these ai tools, because of some that stuff that report you were talking about showed its going to be so easy for anyone to make a believable campaign, make anyone do anything. And so we after be more skeptical about what we begin to see online, its going to be harder to prove that something is false and its going to be harder to prove that something is true. So what can we do . We really need Tech Companies to build out better tools. I always say is like ai to fight ai, to be able to help stop the spread of this type of disinformation before or it goes massive. You think about how x has had all of these issues with a lot of these sexually explicit deepfakes spreading with a lot of this disinformation spreading before they can get control of that. Thats a big problem and i think we need the right type of regulation aimed at really trying to get in front of this. Its a huge, huge problem that has, as you see from that demo has real human impact we were only seeing glimpses of the impact it could have we should note, laurie, youre at South By Southwest in austin, plenty of discussion there about the power of ai. I wonder what youre hearing had such an interesting time to be at South By Southwest, which is his conference where we always talk about whats coming next in technology. And i think what you, since i interviewed the way most ceo today, whos the head of this Autonomous Vehicle massive company. And i think theres a lot of fear about getting an a driverless car thats when Artificial Intelligence and theres excitement do you hear about all the interesting things that ai will be able to help us do and science and research and medicine. And theres so much tension. Ill give a quick snippet. They showed a kind of a sizzle reel of whatever an executive from openai, which is one of the largest ai company speaking, and you had a hollywood audience that booed that, and they were very upset about it. Because theres a lot of fear about whats coming with ai, what is going to replace in what are the ethical ways that we should be incorporating these tools, especially as we talk about, because the correct guardrails havent necessarily been put in yet. There are guardrails, but were just seeing these emergent qualities of what can happen when this type of tool well as used to harm yeah, it is a wild a time to watch Technology Grow exponentially like this. 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Mesothelioma is really all we do. 80087 to 4901 more outrage and frustration for families who have already suffered the worst in uvalde, texas last night, the city council said they needed more time to assess the report that cleared the officers involved in the massacre at Robb Elementary School in may of 2022 . 19 students and two teachers were killed. And for 77 minutes, police teams failed to intervene as a mass shooter was barricaded in a room with victims and survivors. One relative of a student killed, blasted the Council Members for their lack of action this is very disappointing that we wont get any answers but, you know, par for the course apparently. I do want to say though, that while were here doing this there is a family out there that is celebrating their childs 12th birthday today at the cemetery and you still cant give us answers cnns Shimon Prokupecz was at the meeting last night. Shimon, tell us what happened you could just hear the exhaustion in breadths voice their the families are exhausted. Theyve been fighting for nearly two years to try and get accountability to try and get answers and at every turn and when it seems like theyre getting closer and closer to some resolution, Something Like what we saw last week happens. You have this report coming out that exonerates these all first, theres officers who belong to the Police Department behind me here and actually brett cross is out here today outside this Police Department. Hes over here with his family. Hes was the guardian of ozayir garcia, was ten years old, killed in that classroom. Hes out here essentially protesting toal the City Council Less than that he would be out here sitting here until they fired some of the officers whom he feels and who have been shown not to have acted when they should have last night at the city council hearing, the families were expecting to get some answers from the city council about what they were going to do about a plan and Going Forward, the police chief abruptly resigning yesterday, so he wasnt at the city council he was supposed to be there to answer some questions. None of that happened and instead, they just said, we need more time. I tried to ask the question of the city lawyer. The City Attorney who has been behind much of their report has been working on the report at the end of the meeting take a look at some of that exchange what kind of assurances can you give to these families that this is not happening . Comment because no one got about why you understand that. Right, sir. Comment. But you understand the concern that i no. Comment. Do you understand the no comment . One of the big concerns here for Family Members is who was behind this report who was controlling it . Theres an outside attorney that was involved. Brett cross was asking the city council about that they want to know how this report was put together, why it was put together, and who was controlling it, and it was just some simple questions, as you can see there, the City Attorney did not want the answer those questions instead, tried to sort of push us out of the way to get through. Look, i think the city as a whole, the government here is really exhausted by all this i think they simply would hope that some of this would go away, that there would be a resolution, but its up to them to get to that point. And still here we are nearly two years later still so many unanswered questions. And theres just no accountability for these Family Members who want the answers and want the accountability i mean, where does it go . From here with a grand jury investigation with any other potential avenue for accountability . Thats thats the thing. No one really knows. Its up to the city council whether or not to take action against these officers. The other thing is there is this grand jury investigation the District Attorney is impaneled. A grand jury. Theyre hearing evidence. More witnesses are expected to testify this week. Its going to take months to get some kind of resolution there. A Family Member mr. Dont have a lot of optimism theyre tired, but they say theyre going to keep fighting. You see them here behind me. The fight continues here. Theyre not giving up. Briana. Its just its so exhausting for them and its just so painful to have to see this to see how theyre being treated and just the continued lack of answers and accountability in this community. 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The republicans have been really struggling to pass even basic procedure he drove votes given their razor thin majority. And you also have now some republicans going after one another in primary. So Many Republicans tell me they are just simply exhausted and they were not excited about the idea of taking a bus ride for four hours with box lunches and having to spend extended period of time with their colleagues. So many of them tell me theyre deciding to gifted retreat altogether. Some of them have also complained about the location this year, as you noted, its in West Virginia, a departure from past retreats which have taken place in sunny florida. But Speaker Mike Johnson is hopeful that this year hes going to be able to use the retreat to rally his members and provide a muchneeded reset for the conference prince boris. So melanie, whats on the agenda for the retreat yeah. I didnt get my hands on a copy of the agenda that lawmakers will be participating in, and theyre going to focus on a number of policy issues, including the economy, the border, and socalled family values. Theyre also going to receive a presentation on the political landscapes as they look to keep the majority this november. But notably theyre also hearing from the head of susan b. Anthony anthony less that is a pro antiabortion group. And it comes as republicans have really been struggling with their abortion message in the wake of roe v. Wade being overturned. So that is certainly an area boris, where theyre going to look to improve upon their message Melanie Zanona live from West Virginia. Thanks so much for the update. Melanie. So we all saw how the movie ended now some australian billionaire is banking on rebuilding the titanic. Would you get on it . 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He told local media, quote, its a lot more fun to do the titanic than it is to sit at home and count money some might debate that, speaking of pfk1 passengers will be encouraged to dress for the 1900s. I probably too soon to make jokes about what happened on the titanic, right . I hope the experience isnt too authentic know its going to be all the good parts good parts of the crews will leave it there. The lead with jake tapper starts right now