Million every year support more victories for veterans go to dab. Org News Night with Abby Phillip weeknights at ten eastern on Cnn Facetoface locked in a dead heat, the president ial nominees look to knock each other off their game. Im speaking the search and what to expect Tuesday Night from someone who debated harris, former president ial Candidate Theyd Pete buttigieg joins me exclusively next, and Pennsylvania Senator John Fetterman will be here. Plus switching sides. It would have been thinkable just a few years ago, Dick Cheney will be voting for Kamala Harris School that encourage other never trump republicans to follow. Trump supporter, senator sure. Tom cotton joins me exclusively unsafe at school as georgia grieves the victims of a School Shooting, new questions after the fact emily says the alleged Shooters Mother called the school with a warning. How can they shootings be prevented . Georgia Senator Raphael Warnock is ahead hello im Dana Bash in washington where the state of our union is getting heading ready for a critical debate in two days Kamala Harris and Donald Trump will take the stage in philadelphia and the new Cnn Poll of polls out this morning shows that there first and perhaps only president ial debate could not be more consequential the race between Harris And Trump is Neck And Neck with no clear leader. And while a new poll shows, harris outpacing trump with women younger people, and black and latino likely voters, trump maintains strong support among men and older likely Voters Harris is already in pennsylvania in formal debate prep, facing off against a standin playing trump. While trumps preparations are, as always, more informal, his advisers hope he will stay on message against harris, who may try to needle him but harris also will look to answer voters questions about her policies. Here with me now is someone who has debated Kamala Harris onstage 2020 president ial candidate for the democratic primary back then, pete buttigieg. Thank you so much for being here. So there is a new, New York Times poll out this morning and it says 28 of likely voters said they still need to learn more about harris. Only 9 say that about trump. What does she need to do at the debate to fill in those blanks . Well, i think the main task will be to make sure americans understand the difference, envisions and are reminded that they already agree with her on the issues that matter. Most to them well, thats gonna be challenging. Ive competed with her for the democratic nomination. And i had the honor of being involved in her Debate Preparations against Mike Pence she is a very focused and disciplined leader, but it will take almost superhuman Focus And Discipline to deal with Donald Trump in a debate, its no ordinary proposition, not because Donald Trump is a master of explaining Policy Ideas and how theyre going to make people better off its because hes a master of taking any Form Or Format that is on television and turning it into a show that is all about him. But the less were talking about him and the more were talking about you, the better its going to be for the Vice President because she has laid out an agenda things like making sure that our Tax Code is fair and protecting a womans right to choose. That is, of course, the opposite of Donald Trumps agenda, which has been around Tax Cuts for the wealthy and his record of destroying the right to choose its, again, an extremely challenging tasks in the face of all of the distraction whatever outrageous things he does and says because they will require a response. And yet you cant allow him to change the subject from the difference between his very unpopular set of policies and record and her vision for americas future. I want to get to a couple of issues that are almost certain to come up, but you just mentioned that you were debating her and that youve learned from that. What did you learn . What should we expect that you experienced as somebody who was jousting with her . Well, i think about intellect and focus. Shes somebody who is extremely smart about getting to the core of an issue thats what made her so effective as a da as a prosecutor, than as attorney general. And of course, as Vice President one of the things i remember from those Debate Preparations when when i was involved supporting her team of four years ago was anytime some Issue Area or topic came up and we were kicking around statistics, ideas, arguments she would always take it back to the question of, okay, how is this going to affect somebody at home . And i think thats especially important right now with some of the issues at stake right now. For example, the trump economic plan economists estimate that that will cost about 3,900 for a typical american family going forward and really supercharge inflation but so its not going to be about getting into the niceties of economic modeling. Its going to be bringing that to the Kitchen Table and why people in their everyday lives will be so much better off with her in charge growing Small Business delivering a fair Tax Code. Importantly getting us a way forward on childcare affordability. She has a plan for expanding the child tax credit, making sure that we have paid Family Leave in this country. Two things we would have right now if Republicans Farhan blocking them. And as we saw when Donald Trump was asked about childcare, the other day, it wasnt clear whether he even understood the question i want to ask about afghanistan, which is almost certain to come up in this debate. And in particular, the chaotic withdrawal under the biden administration from afghanistan that left three 13 service members dead in 2021, the Vice President told me that she was the last person in the room on that decision. Decision and she was comfortable with the outcome. I want to make clear that was before the actual withdrawal happened, just after the decision was made. Tomorrow, we expect the house foreign Affairs Committee to release the findings of its threeyear investigation into what happened, how does Kamala Harris defend what we all saw . First, of all of course, i havent seen whats in the report coming out tomorrow, but i do have a question about what theyre doing over there. If theyve had three years to assess what happened, why are they delivering a report after Labor Day and a president ial Election Year . I think it really feeds in to a sense that this is something theyre using as a political football look, this administration made the decision not to allow this war to be inherited by a fifth president and two and that conflict and this is on my mind a lot in september, not just because of the anniversary of the withdrawal, but because it was September 10 years ago that i left afghans stan and when i left, again ten years ago, 2014 they told us we were some of the last troops that they were turning out the lights only to find that it passed on to another presidency and another presidency after that, whats, of course most at stake right now, as is true in any election, is our future. And what is going to be The Future Of American National Security . Do we have adults and grownups in charge who understand the stakes, or do we have people who are incapable of taking even the most serious issues seriously . And i think its especially vueling an important that among trumps own advisors and appointees who have gone on to denounce him to talk about him in scathing terms, to make clear that he has no Business Being president. So many of them come out of the national Security Side because because they saw up close how dangerous it was to have him in charge of american nationalists. Let me ask military affairs. Let me ask you about something that you mentioned. You said that the timing of this report is political couldnt both things be true that it is political and politically advantageous for advantageous for republicans, because the withdrawal was such a mess with regard to how knocked, not whether the u. S. Should come out, but how it actually happened and it is a political problem one for the biden administration, even privately the people i talked to admit that so how does Kamala Harris addressed that since she was Vice President . Well, i think however you view the things that are going to emerge in the report, whats clear is that this americas longest war needed to be brought to an end. And the question at stake in every president ial election is whats going to happen next she is clear about the need to make sure that a place like afghanistan never again becomes a haven for attacks on the homeland. Thats a Counterterrorism Policy and posture that is different from an openended presence over there but also with all of the threats that america faces, whether its making sure that afghanistan is never again base for an attack on the homeland, whether its whats going on in The Middle East but whether its whats happening with china, whether its the latest evidence of russian interference in our own affairs or any number of other issues we need to make sure that the next president of the united it is states is somebody who is equipped to handle that with a view toward what is best for the american people and what is best for americans troops not somebody who is obsessed with what is best for him, which i think is exactly what were going to see on display from Donald Trump in the debate. And a couple of days, pete buttigieg, thank you so much. Really appreciate you coming on this morning thanks very much. And up next, former republican Vice President says he is voting for Kamala Harris trump trumpbacker, senator Tom Cotton, will be here to talk about that. And a much more next. And its likely to be the most important place on the map this November Pennsylvania i will talk to john fetterman, the senator from pennsylvania about the state of the race. Theyre coming up Kamala Harris know, trump. The debate. Everyones been waiting for Follow Cnn for complete coverage and exclusive pre and postdebate analysis. A cnn special event, the abc News President ial debate tuesday at nine eastern on Cnn And Streaming on max yes, defense against erosion and cavities is strong enamel. Nothing beats it. I recommend pro enamel active shields because it actively shields the enamel to defend against erosion and cavities. I think that this product is a Game Changer for my patients, try pronational mouthwash the Ups Store is more than just the shipment store. 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We were talking before the break. I covered the bushcheney administration. I traveled a lot with Dick Cheney one of the most conservative republicans alive today. Its really remarkable that he endorsed a democrat. What does that Tell You about Donald Trump what is remarkable time in politics . You have Dick Cheney endorsing a democrat and you have a kennedy endorsing a republican. I think what it tells us is that theres a lot of ferment and American Politics but in The End, It Endorsements are not going to make the difference in this race. Whats going to make the difference is theyre records. This is a very unusual president ial election. We have a former president running for office first time in more than 100 years, people remember that when Donald Trump was in office, prices were low, wages were high. We had Peace And Stability around the world Kamala Harris, as Vice President , has brought its Recordhigh Inflation we have a wideopen Southern Border and we have war everywhere. You turn around the world. So i know that endorsement sometimes make news. But most americans who have making their decisions based on the records of these two candidates. People remember that we had Good Times with Donald Trump Kamala Harris and Joe Biden have brought us very bad times. I hear you about endorsements. We dont really know the impact that they have all the time Rfk Jr. Hasnt had been in elected office Dick Cheney was Vice President of the united states for eight years. He was a senior member of the house. He was Chief Of Staff to gerald ford. He worked tirelessly to advance republican policies for a long time. You dont think his his endorsement of a democrat with that kind of pedigree is going to make a difference with i really, i really dont. I never trump voters who arent sure about harris. Well, i mean, some of this is probably Donald Trump beat his daughter in her last election back 39 points. I think most americans are going to look at this race and compare the records they have against the very unusual race. When you have a president who served in office, who brought Good Times to america, and you have Kamala Harris, a San Francisco liberal, who has brought to america exactly what you see in San Francisco as well. I want to turn to a very different topic, and that is something that the Justice Department said this week, they detailed a russian Government Effort to stoke divisions in the u. S. Using front organizations and Social Media prominent rightwing influencers like Dave Rubin and benny johnson, who have ties to tenet media. Thats a company that the Justice Department says was being funded by russian operatives you sit on the intelligence committee. How worried are you that rightwing influencers, people who do have an impact on your constituents are being funded either directly or indirectly by the russian government in order to make an impact on this election . Well, first off, dana, we havent been in session, so i havent seen any intelligence about this matter. Ill have seen the allegations. Ive read in the newspaper people should not knowingly take money from the government of russia or iran, or china, or any other adversarial nation to try to influence the election. But i also think its fair to say that a few memes or videos in the vast sea of political commentary is not going to make much of a difference in this election nor has it in past election as well. What didnt make a difference in the last election . Is the lies about hunter bidens laptop that more than four dozen former intelligence officials lied about in the middle of that campaign. And most networks to include this one bought that Lie Hook Line and sinker that didnt make a difference . The election. But i think a few videos are commentaries, which again, you shouldnt do if youre out there in The Business Of Commentating On Elections is not going to make a difference in the vast sea of commentary we see it sounds to me like youre downplaying the fact that Vladimir Putin is using people like Dave Rubin, whos show, you went on in february as a tool for his propaganda so im not downplaying vladmir putins designs or xijinpings designs, as i told us designed to try to influence our election. But using money, using money to try to promote memes or videos on the internet is not exactly going to make a huge difference. Again, you shouldnt knowingly do that. I dont know if any of these people didnt know young people but look, some people only get their information from those means and videos. But dana, what were really would be catastrophic is if a foreign government say hacked into the Voter Registration System during voting, or hacked into election machines and erase votes are turned off the electricity in a big city on Election Day those are things that are serious threats. A few videos and those active threats are you is that im worried about those kind of threat. Sure. Is that based on what youre being briefed on, its based on the vulnerabilities that all of our infrastructure around the country has. That worries me a lot more than a few videos are memes again, this is the kind of thing that foreign government its like russia does. And no one should knowingly and willingly partaken it, but its really not all that consequential in The Grand Scheme of things. I want to ask you about another topic that is very much in the news this week. And that is the shooting in in georgia, weve all been seeing the texts, the heartbreaking text, especially as parents of students saying, i love you too, their parents students using the shirts off their backs to try to save their teacher republican Vice President ial nominee j. D. Vance said after the shooting, quote, i dont like that. This is a fact of life adding, we dont have to like the reality that we live in, but it is the reality we live in do you accept that School Shootings like this are just a way of life now, no absolute Night And J. D Vance Hasnt either he said but he doesnt want them to be a fact of life. And this week, the Associated Press got caught distorting that quote from him so bad that they had to retract it. But heres what we also know about that shooting, even as were still gathering all the facts it wasnt as bad as it might have been because there was a Police Officer on the School Premises that was able to neutralize the shooter Kamala Harris wants to take Police Officers out of school. She said it in the past. Thats your position, is not surprising because shes consistently taken positions against Law Enforcement throughout her career as a San Francisco liberal that Police Officer hadnt been there. Kamala harris have gotten her way many more students and teachers might have been killed. She was attacked when she ran for president in the democratic primary. They were calling her kamala caught because she was the opposite of what you were saying, but i just want to stay on this topic of School Shootings because youre right. It could have been so much worse and they do have measures in place in this school but the fact that there are Mental Health Problems and we dont know exactly what was going on with this 14yearold and 14. But there are Mental Health Problems all across the world right now. Its bad the difference between other countries in this country is that it is being expressed with Gun Violence is it not time to figure out a way to mitigate that part of the equation when it is affecting our childrens. So often well, i think one way to mitigate that issue, enforce the laws we have on the books, Donald Trump did that. We had a severe crack down on criminals using guns. Since Joe Biden, Kamala Harris taken office, they have deprioritize that. They havent focused on enforcing the laws that we have on the book they focused on trying to take guns away from law, abiding citizens. Thats not going to solve our Crime Problem. What will solve our Crime Problem is actually cracking down on gun crimes. Theyve directed us attorneys many cases, not pursue Gun Charges because Theres Gun charges come with stiff mandatory minimums which Kamala Harris slos these are these some of i mean, do you see any action in the in the offing at all in the wake of this, once again, or is it just going to be enforced the laws on the books . Well, again, enforcing laws on the books is one that one way to stop gun crime. Another way is to keep Police Officers at schools, many schools across the country have Police Officers, but Kamala Harris and her friends on the Radical Left are successful in getting Police Officers on in many schools during the Blm Riots in 2020 in the what followed. So Congress Wont do anything well, look, most most Law Enforcement happens at the local level at these Police Officers are not federal agents, they are local Police Department officers. But again, Kamala Harris and her friends on the Radical Left, who are opposed Law Enforcement. They wanted to get them out of school thats one way. Its not the only way and its not a silver bullet, but thats one way to help protect these schools among many others so far i let you go. If Donald Trump wins, do you want to be Defense Secretary im focused on Donald Trump winning just as hes focused on winning, theres plenty of time for him to put together a great team after the election, which i know we will somehow i had a feeling that was going to be your answer, but i thought i would try anyway. Center. Thank you so much for being here. Thanks, dana, really appreciate it and Vice President harris is in pennsylvania for debate prep. Ill talk to Senator John Fetterman about the race for every vote. There next and then the tragic high School Shooting that we were just discussing, i will speak with Georgia Senator Raphael Warnock ahead tonight a two hour whole story special. The candidates and their record on the key issues of the election season. What does their past . Plus. 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I really want to just point out that i havent said anything different since back in 2016 back then as a surrogate for secretary clinton after my campaign. And now in 20 2024, its going to be very close. Its going to be very close. And we have to do everything that we possibly can to make sure and have the conversations with all across pennsylvania and all kinds of rooms that may be hopefully hopelessly read kinds of counties, but its going to be the one on the margins. And ive always maintained that. And thats what happened in 2016. That trump won. And then of course, Joe Biden won by 80,000 votes. So ive been predicting this is going to be close regardless. And thats where were at now. And thats why im committed to showing up. All across pennsylvania. And people understand its all about the choice. The choice and its not about policies or who has more money or talking about scandals are things kind of thing people have to ask themselves, what kinds of the next four years do we want . Do we want that kind of chaos and that kinds of absolute kinds of reckless and bizarre behavior from trump, or do we want four more years of getting . Through a pandemic and standing with our allies, like Ukraine Or Israel through all of that and by any metric our economy is the worlds absolute, worlds envy on that. So im proud to stand with Joe Biden and im absolutely proud to stand with Vice President harris and i also wanted to say that its going to be a straight debate. Shes going to do great. Of course. But Donald Trump will be good to. I mean, we can all remember he wrecked all of the republicans. Hes a good debater but at The End of the day, i dont believe this debate is going to be definitive because its going to come down to this this choice and its going to be close. Senator, you have been saying nonstop a version of what you just said about going into the Rural Redder Areas of pennsylvania but my question is, when you go in what do you say, how do you convince those voters . And a Kamala Harris will be effectively going in on this debate stage. What does she need to do to change the dynamic and make it less of a Neck And Neck race for the voters that youre talking about, that she needs in your Home State . Like i said, she has an amazing career and she definitely is a new way forward. But if you liked some of the kinds of things that trump the way he speaks, the kinds of things that hes done, the kind of record that he had as a president and that kind of division. And the kinds of cruelty and that its like thats a stark choice regardless where it was biden or was Hillary Clinton as Well Pennsylvania is always going to be close and that where were at now and it is a very, very stark choice. This isnt about nuance, and its about who putting out the latest white papers and the kinds of obscure things and thats why white people, i think a majority of pennsylvanians are going to decide, hey, i want four years of Order And Fairness and unity. And the different way forward. And i dont think they want the kinds of dark days in chaos that Donald Trump provided for our nation. I want to ask about what you were saying when Joe Biden was still running excuse me, after the debate, you were one of his biggest defenders and you called the idea of replacing him the dumbest blank. Ive ever heard. And said that walking away from biden effectively was helping trump do you still believe that that is the case . Did that bear out given where we are now no, wherever i was that is that i do believe fundamentally that Joe Biden would have beaten trump and it was going to be very close and ive always predicted that as well too. And now harris and again, shes had an amazing run so far, and we are raising Record Record amounts of money and shes had an incredible all kinds of the last six weeks. But right now its here we are in its going to be close and its comes down to that very same very stark choice. I have said this, i challenge anybody, pull up anything that ive said about this kinds of elections . Its all the way back eight years ago. Ive said that it was going to be close when everybody thought that Hillary Clinton was going to pull it away. And she wrecked him. She actually wrecked Trump Objective on the three debates. And people thought that Joe Biden was going to win by three or five points and i didnt think that was going to be the case. And of course we know how close that is and now now with Kamala Harris at the top of the ticket, its going to be close to well to and i do believe she is going to avail because of majority of pennsylvania ones are going to decide that we want a new way forward and we dont want that kind of mss this absolute chaos kinds of a thing. Finally, i have to ask about something that is very specific to your state, but could be really consequential. And that is President Biden reportedly set to block Japans Nippon Steel from a 15 Billion deal to acquire u. S. Steel us steel gave a dire warning this week that blocking the deal would Risk Thousands of union jobs, even threatened to move their headquarters out of pittsburgh would this hurt union workers in pennsylvania . Well, thats appalling. The ceo has not behaved in any kind of an honorable way ever since i found out about that sale. Actually, on your network, i was like, whats going on. I mean, look her outside this window right there. Thats the Steel Mills right there. He was willing to throw all of these men william, i should be women under that as well too. And now ive been very clear throughout this. Im going to follow the union. I am going to follow whatever they want if theyd actually now come out in favor of this, then im going to support that but if there now against that, im going to support that too because we and im always going to be on the right side for standing up for the union workers and the kinds of union jobs. And i do fundamentally believe that still is a national Security Issue so do you believe that President Biden should go ahead and block this sale where im at, like i said, its like i am following the steelworkers. I always have i made that commitment as a candidate and im honoring that now, as their senator, as the guy that actually is a member of the steel community. I live across the street from that that mill right now. And now, what is the right thing . And the best thing for the union workers and for these communities. And i support that. And thats why im going to continue to stand with the workers Senator John Fetterman. Thank you so much for your time this morning. I appreciate it thank you up next Hillary Clintons advice to Kamala Harris on debating Donald Trump. Were going to get into that pretty remarkable stuff that she said. And were also going to look at whether or not its going to work. My panel joins me next from starting strong to its been a week so many ways to save life. Ready wallet, happy. Thats 365 by whole foods, higher Shipping Race may be the cost of doing business. But at what cost . 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My fantastic panel joins me now, bakari, im going to start with you because you a longtime, supporter of Kamala Harris. Im guessing you have a little insight into what shes planning go for it. I dont know if i have any insight, but if they are listening to me or Doug Or Anyone else, i would say you cannot get into a match with Donald Trump because he just brings a more full bladder. I mean, he you had to be magnanimous. You have to be president ial. You have to disregard him as being petty, as being small. And she has to reassure the american people that she is not the chaos that Donald Trump brings, i think is going to be a very good night for her, regardless of the spin afterwards, i think people are going to see a clear contrast. I mean, thats what i expect just be magnanimous. Make him look as smallest possible that shouldnt be that difficult. Shes going to look very liberal and thats hard to be small when youre very liberal, i think youve seen the polls recently that came out today even the report that came out last week, shes not the Change Agent and shes now being viewed as radically liberal. Thats what Donald Trumps going to talk about. Hes going to compare his record as president to Joe Bidens harris record pregnant as president and just show how dangerously liberal these policies have affected everyday families. And youll probably see the most content heavy with respect to policy that weve ever seen in a debate. I think were probably ever on record from from whom . From trump, he has a record is clear. He wins the economic record, he wins immigration record, and hes going to talk about those things and families are suffering families are struggling to make payments every month, families are extending their credit is a direct result of this biden administration. The country wants change and they dont think shes to change. The reality is you shouldnt under underestimate Donald Trump. He is now done more president ial race debase, i should say than anyone in history, any somebody who came up on television, hes a communicator. He is somebody who is using to speaking to a mass audience. If he can stay focused and he stays to the core issues, economy border, its a good night for him, but weve also seen the world in which he shouts out the proud boys, or he talks about hannibal lecter, or he gets into Name Calling that could go against him to Kamala Harris. She needs to look president ial. Were incredibly backwards as a country that weve never had a female president. So for a lot of people seeing somebody up there whos a woman who might be our first female president , she needs to seem commanding. She cannot get to in the weeds on policy. She needs to talk about it, but cant get sidetracked. Big picture. How will you demonstrably make peoples lives better . How will you turn the economy around if she can do that and not get rattled by Donald Trump, it will be a good night for him. Offense. Offense. Offense for the Harris Team its not about prosecuting a case against trump. Its about her talking about the issues that middleclass families care about. How do we grow the middleclass . How do we strengthen the middle class . When ive looked at a lot of testing on ads in the short Convention Speech when shes talking about middleclass family hes in their goals for the future she does exceptionally well and framing this about the about the future versus the past is going to be very important for her. Trump is a very unpredictable debater to say the least. But what typically happens with him is he starts actually fairly disciplined after 15 minutes he goes back to chaos and he wants to create a Chaos Situation in this debate. And then sometimes you run out of gas. Ive seen that in both his republican debates and against and against biden. If she could control the thermostat in that room, if she can control the argument, if she can talk to the american people, almost put a Donald Trump aside. He she will win. And ive seen i think she has the discipline to do that. I think she did that in her Convention Speech. So you all have advice and predictions. I want to read to you what Hillary Clinton which as you said, debated him three times during the 2016 race, said in an interview, which to me was just remarkable that she talked about this so openly on the record she of course, harris just should not be baited. She should bait him. He can be rattled. He doesnt know how to respond to substantive direct attacks. When i said he was a russian puppet and he just splattered on stage. I think thats an example of how you get out of fact about him. That really unnerved him. I mean, thats so true and thats why i kind of laughed when my good friend brian talked about the fact that its going to be policy substantive. I mean, direct attacks against who he is, not only the character for the man which we know is lacking, but also where he lacks substantively on policy. We just heard this Week Response on how are you going to do affordable childcare . That response made absolutely no sense to anyone. It didnt make sense to our children. Right. Mean it was just a word salad. He is he is diminished. Hes not the same person. He was even when he debated Hillary Clinton. And the fact is this, if you take out Joe Biden of the last debate that they had, you have the second worst debate in american history, the problem is Joe Biden was probably the worst debate in american mr. I think the struggles that harris has with this is, you know, as when you start playing in mud with Donald Trump and sort of you being that aggressive, been offense and throwing these insults that they want to do. Youre now in the mud with us and were very comfortable being in a mind. Were very comfortable that you own is where we are in politics. It is on and were very comfortable being in the mud and the way i see harris has to win issue almost has to be the opposite of trump, right . She can play the dirty games. She cant do the fake news. She cant do all these things that sort of weve excelled over the years has changed politics because if she goes in there and it comes out with the white suit of not lowering years, as you say, to our game, that is a win for what do you mean the white suit . The white issue shes claiming to be the opposite. She her campaigns taking The High Road on personal attacks, right . You know, whenever shes brought up, do you mean like the White Knight . Yeah, the white nile. And the thing is is when you engage its very hard to stay the White Knight because you look weak as well. And i will forget one of the greatest Frustrations Voters and i think undecided voters have with Donald Trump as he often makes his issues front center and the more that shes dealing with euro fell in your xyz, its not talking about what voters care about what personally impacts them. So the elevating and focusing on issues and avoiding the chaos. And i think there are two issues that she can do very well in terms of what Hillary Clintons advice were abortion and social Security And Medicare to really important issues to voters that she needs to do slightly better on those 45 to 65 and older voters where Donald Trump has a record on social Security And Medicare in terms of calling it a ponzi scheme, terms of cutting it, in terms of wanting to raise the retirement age. These are things that a lot of voters dont know about. And so if she can sort of drive a Policy Conversation around her overall values and what shes going to do to make cost of living living lower. Its gonna be problematic for him because he doesnt have really any answers i just want to while we have a little bit of time left, Dick Cheney, the fact that he endorsed im just im obsessed with this as somebody who covered him. I just i still kept my jaws On The Table that he endorsed a democrat. You heard Tom Cotton kind of Blow It off thing endorsements dont matter. Noted rhino Dick Cheney, its a significant so statistic just ugly speaking, there are undecided voters who very likely voted for a president ial ticket that Dick Cheney was on. Dick cheney is an internationalists who cares about american leadership abroad and ukraine is on the ballot continuing support for ukraine and for against russia. That is something that Donald Trump and j. D. Vance have not committed to continuing. And of course, fundamentally, the constitution wanting to overcome turn elections and what his daughter, Liz Cheney has been standing up for. So im not surprised by it, but it is kind of wild to think that Dick Cheney is endorsing surprise by two points. The first is that Kamala Harris has a huge coalition that shes building. You have Bernie Sanders and aoc all the way to Dick Cheney. I mean, who would have thought that would be the case and then i had are correct Research Center at cnn pull, you know, all the former President S and nominees are President S who are supporting Donald Trump. And they came back with an exhaustive List Sarah palins like thats listen if at The End of the day, if you look at the data and i think the data ultimately drives the congress dont you were cheneys where these republicans were going to have the highest strength is going to be trying to influence republicans to sort of move away from Donald Trump and to devote their lives are in The End to vote for Kamala Harris Donald Trump right now is getting 93 of the republican vote. So what real impact are they going to have other than a Panel Discussion and maybe appealing for missives, admission. Yeah, thats right. Were talking about around the margins here and in a race, youre poll has, or as cnn has a very tight poll, all the polls are tight all if she can carve out 0. 51 , that makes a big difference into bakaris point. It is giving permission to some of these republicans who are, you know, sort of traditional republicans or independents who lean right, that, you know what its, okay. Im vouching for her. So thats why it helps a little bit. Were going to have to leave it there. Great discussion, great to see all of you see you and philadelphia. Were going to turn to a very big story this past week theyre deadly shooting are they an unfortunate fact of life in america thats what j. D. Vance suggested. Georgia Senator Raphael Warnock does not agree. Im going to talk to him about that horrific shooting in his state next cnn special event, the abc News President ial debate, tuesday at nine On Cnn with moderate to severe plaque psoriasis, my skin who is no longer mine. My active psoriatic arthritis. Join symptoms held me back dont let symptoms define you emerge as you with trump yeah. Most people saw 90 clear of skin at four months and the majority stayed clear eyed five years from buying is proven to significantly reduce joint pains stiffness, and swelling. 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