Tonight, throwing in the towel, Donald Trump decides against a debate rematch. But could anything changed his mind . Plus Fear And Hate in springfield, ohio, the city thats been torn apart after trumps spreads false claims of migrants eating pets and dogs the Citys Mayor is live with me tonight on Laura Coates live question. Why doesnt Donald Trump wanted debate Kamala Harris again, im anyone the real reason he doesnt want to do so is because he thinks he lost all because he his brother thinks he actually won. And we watched him a profess to be a winner at all times. And the most consequential moments, even falsely claiming and doubling down at every turn, by The Way, that he won the 2020 election. He has been relentless fighting to prove it at every turn, even when the data is in front of them. But now Donald Trump is facing against his nature, the man who loves a huge Tv Ratings and he has not back down from a fight apparently, does not now want to fight for a rematch or a fight in general with harris hes now going to skip a chance to appear before an audience of tens of millions of americans, aka voters so because weve done two debates said because they were successful, there will be no third debate successful under the first one against biden. Okay. Handsdown. Yes. Tko. But the one against harris well, lets just remember republican congressman Mike Collins tweeted after the debate. He wrote, you want to know who won . Find out who refuses to do a second debate and according to you, The American Public, 53 said that harris won only 24 thought that trump won this from a brand new poll thats out tonight, by The Way now, harris was in battleground, North Carolina Today rallying voters. She actually pushed for another debate and actually immediately and delivered or usual stump speech. But she got to remix it a little with a Standout Moment from her face off with trump 45 Million americans are insured through the affordable Care Act and hes going to end it based on a concept shes got to use. Now from the Debate Material for her speeches, for her ads. And of course, her campaign says she raked in 47 Million in the first 24 hours after that debate. So what did trump get out of the debate . Well, if his Rally Today in arizona is any indication, he got to new grievance material, particularly grievance against the abc moderators. You know what he spent more than 15 minutes, more than 15 minutes . On those moderators at the rally saying they were unfair to him. The only fact checked him and not harris. And he even took issue wait for it with david Nuers Hair im not going to watch it harris not as good as it used to be thats what he said. I want to get right to bryan lanza. Hes now a Senior Adviser to Travel Ban 2024 president ial campaign. There are a heck is also here, former Obama White House senior Director And Doug heye, a republican strategist. So glad youre all here, brian, youre now officially a part of the campaign. I have to ask you about this because youve got a number of conservatives who were saying that the debate did not go well for trump. Now, hes not going to debate a second time. Hes talking about david weird hair, not the substantive issues people want to hear about what gives listen. Sometimes people have had Bad Harris as heres what i would say about the campaign in the debates, the most important thing is when we looked at the debate, we looking, what do we need to achieve . If youre Donald Trump is wellknown, so theres nothing thats going to change and whatever his performance is going to be commonly, harris is not that wellknown and what weve seen in the polling at least before the Cnn Debate earlier, before the recent debate, weve see in Cnn Polling in New York Times polling, that in spite of all the noise that weve heard in the last month about Kamala Harris moving to the center about this amazing reset that she received from the media she was the most unpopular vp in American History to become the most popular vp in American History, that our messaging was working more and more voters. Sar is sort of moving a radical left. And they saw is outside the mainstream. So what we looked at the debate is, what can we do . Its not winning and losing on the performance. Its when its achieving the goals and we achieve the goal of painting her as an outside as, as a San Francisco liberal was outside the mainstream of pennsylvania, outside the mainstream of michigan. Her positions where she supports transgender changes for illegal immigrants that turned out to be from space as you well know what it is. But, but actually proven to be true that the time magazines has come back with the correct in saying, actually that is true. And Theres Video clips of her. So what we age give them a could debate is we achieved completely painting her as a San Francisco liberal that puts her outside the mainstream. And were going to continue to accelerate that because we believe thats going to be the path to victory. I have been your goal, but i wonder, i mean, everyones been talking about, well, you think so, but yet people are talking about all the polling we talked about that the first Poll Debate thats out Today Harris narrowly leading at 47 with trump at 42 , 47. And other number million dollars to be exact, is it huge haul . And i wonder an era when people are talking about to brians larger point, about goals and what happened neither can get overly confident. Its one data point, but its a significant one to see what happened here today. Absolutely. Listen. Hillary clinton won both debates and she was not sitting in the White House, right at The End of the election. So ultimately the real goal is to win. And trump has not managed to break 48 . Anybody who is trying to win the path through pennsylvania, you need three to 5 , you need a certain number of votes in key districts and many of those people are not that theyre undecided, right . Youre thats what youre trying to get with Exposure And Television time. Its enthusiasm. You were trying to get people who only vote, maybe in president ial elections sitting out the rest of the year, who maybe were just depressed and anxious. Otherwise, who are now feeling a sense of optimism that something can change to get to those people. And that Enthusiasm Gap that exists. Kamala harris painted a very different picture of america and she actually confronted trump directly in a way that frankly many people have won to, to see, but also trump was not able to do that. The seine as a splitscreen, right. The nonverbals visuals of her taking arguments to him, then turning to The American Public and saying, heres what i will do for you was very effective, yet. Trump is not really talking about are touting his performance and The Way he is claiming and talking about the debate. Hes complaining about the moderators. There are a series of missed opportunities and backed keys at the Rally Today, and hes been clearly preoccupied with his performance On Tuesday. Listen to this two nights ago, we had a monumental victory over comrade Kamala Harris the president the two anchors, David Muir and linsey davis, sat there and only corrected me on things where i was right. People said that i was angry at the debate angry i was angry she immediately called for a second debate, which means that she was like a Prize Fighter that lost a fight. Shes a liar first of all, some of the Fact Checking involve things like no state allows for the killing of a child after its been born into the World Number one and other one was about looking at the City Manager when it came to springfield, ohio, and that there was no reporting or wiser reporting of anyone Eating Animals and pets at that note . And that notion. So hes pointing out, again, the fixation of the correction as opposed to the opportunities to really point out perhaps his shortcomings or proceed ones for Kamala Harris, why is he going down this route . This is what Donald Trump does, and youre about an hour ago. I got a call from my nephew is in North Carolina and were going to talk about North Carolina later. And he asked me specifically the moderators and im a Tar Heel. Hes a Tar Heel fan. I said lets put it in College Football terms. If you get called nine times on a penalty and your teams only been your teams only been called once. You look at that and say, well, this is unfair, theres a disparity, but sometimes in College Football one team held the ball or held the player, their opponent nine times either only did it once. And thats, i think the reality here is, trump says these things that so often tied up republican opponents, democratic opponents. You sort of like wrestling with a cloud but its what weve seen is in this case very clearly, he said a lot of things just werent true and Camo Short was on the left a lot, tried to tack to the center where she could, but she wasnt lying The Way that trump just habitually does. But ultimately, if we look at this debate, i think most people say us as your polling showed, okay, Kamala Harris won the debate. Whats the result . The result is, this was a close race going into the debate. Its a close race coming out of the debate. Bait and cnn had a poll the morning after they said whose position is on the economy is better, trumps numbers went up two points, commons went down two points. Now a Fourpoint Shift Isnt massive, but thats not the direction you would think things would go if Kamala Harris cleaned Donald Trumps clock and oh my my god, Taylor Swift gotten involved. That means this race is over. This is a close race. Its going to continue can you be one on this point . Ill get back to you guys in second on this very notion, but you are from North Carolina and Today Harris, of course, continues to think that thats in play. You see them going down there trying to campaign, trying to secure it in many ways isnt really in play. Do you think the Biden Camp thought it was more in play than georgia was . Clearly Kamala Harris is just taking full advantage. This was her first stop. And whats interesting to me is not just that shes going there, but moving forward, where does she go . And charlotte and greensboro. Thats where democrats usually go, throw in raleigh, asheville, wilmington to shore. But if she starts going to places like greenville and hickory. And what about the ten hbcus that arent just in the big cities, but in places like Elizabeth City or salisbury, North Carolina, thats telling me that shes seeing things a little differently and campaigning different. Theres a real opportunity therefore, and the one other thing i would say is i talked to republican consultants a lot of unhappiness with unaffiliated registered, unaffiliated voters with trump, that all comes down to temperament. Trump has to fix that and the debate could have been then opportunity for them go back to all those things were Kamala Harris is unpopular, where the Bidenharris Administration Isnt popular, immigration, the economy, trump just got lost in his own rhetoric and gotten his own way and prevented him from doing that. What do you do about that . We continue to deliver that message immigration is a top priority issue. Inflation continues to be a top issue because people suffered. But his point is the temperament of the messenger matters. It will listen, people have said the temperament matters for a long time. Donald trump was president in 2016. So temperament doesnt matter. People right now. One right . That was the whole point that Kamala Harris made is you got fired by The American people right now in this election, want change, and they just dont see it. Kamala harris is Change Agent at the Cnn Polling confirms at the New York Times polling confirmed, i was the police. I didnt interrupt you, so im speaking here. Thats Kamala Harris line. I mean, it works and so if that is the goals and i think thats what the campaign is coming close to achieve. And so were going to continue to hit those marks. But you have to remember when were delivering these messages whether theyre aggressor for some time we get lost in the Sort Chaos of the day or the scandal of the day you still have earned media, print media, and we still have a lot of programs that are delivering the message effectively. Thats why you see Kamala Harris been defined his radically liberal in all these polls. You dont see it on the cable news. You dont see it in this discussion, these exchanges, but theres still an apparatus is delivering that message and is clearly deliberate effectively, which is why Donald Trump is viewed as the Change Agent at this rate, yeah, i dont im not sure what the logic is about the Change Agent because its not necessarily the Polling Hasnt Testing on who do you feel as a Change Agent, Donald Trump is now making harris is the one who is at Nikki Haley rather is the one who said this, right . That the first party to ditch their 80yearold Candidate is the party thats going to get ahead. And when Donald Trump is now the person that everyone has known for a really long time. Hes consistently been this way, not somebody who his own strategies have said can focus on policy or stay on message. So this is who he is. Hes the known quantity. Hes also, when we talk about the mental acuity challenges, again, it was too old men, it was a very stark contrast, adjust, frankly by Age And Energy and Kamala Harris is now running the old obama play, keep as many things in play as possible. If youre the candidate that has Enthusiasm And Energy on your side, theres a value in that rather than the onestop a day or the multiple hours of open executive time. Im what shes relying on though lets be clear, is a type of voter that is traditionally felt disenchanted and trump was very good about building that into his base from a certain sector. She is now going for, as you said, black voters, younger voters. I mean Gen Z is all over the map with pumping up Kamala Harris first after that debate, well see how it ultimately ends up. Obviously different states in play in both campaigns as you point out, have a similar Tactic And Strategy of trying to get a particular demographic. The way theyre doing it though, and how it plays is going to make all the difference. And i do think Temperament Isnt really a big, important aspect of how voters see theres a everyone stand by. We have more to talk about tonight. Donald trump, again, spreading the lie that migrants in springfield, ohio i can say this are eating pets days after he mentioned it in the debate in front of 67 Million people, i might add now, springfield has a very real consequences that they are grappling with over that lie. And that includes bomb threats. The Citys Mayor joins me next you make the most of it with great deals on the most capable wrangler ever are most affordable suv, jeep compass. The only Openair Pickup Jeep and the most awarded suv ever Jeep Grand Cherokee. 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In springfield. Theyre eating the dogs. The people that came in, theyre eating the cats. Theyre eating theyre eating the pets of the people that live there. And this is whats happening in our country. And its a shame no theyre not show. No, theyre not but he keeps saying it. And that trope used to otherize people to scare and provoked disgust and people over immigrant Food Habits that youre trying to do. Even if those claimed habits arent true at all. And they are not because officials from springfield say they and they actually had to answer these questions. There has been no evidence that haitian immigrants are stealing peoples pets to eat. So how did it even make it onto the debate the president ial Debate Stage, where it was amplified to tens of millions of people. Well, its already about a year ago and 11yearold boy, caden clark, he died in a bus accident. The bus had been struck by a haitian Immigrant Driving without a valid license that tragedy led some springfield residents to air their grievances against the influx of haitian immigrants into their community. The Washington Post reports an unfounded claim was posted to a private Facebook Group with a user claiming a friend of their Neighbors Daughter found her Loss Cat hanging from a Tree Branch at a home where haitian immigrants lived. And they were quote, carving it up to eat unquote. Thats when a conservative account on x then picked it up that post, it reached nearly 5 Million people in just a few Days Police denied the rumors, but the claims they kept coming and an Internet Storm of means then came senator j. D. Vance posting this to x on monday reports. Now show that people have had their pets abducted and eaten by people who shouldnt be in this country. He wrote lets go back. Fell a little boy tuesday evening, his father spoke out at a city me using aden as a political tool is to say the least reprehensible for any political purpose morally bankrupt politicians bernie moreno, Chip Roy j. D. Vance, and Donald Trump van spoken my Sons Name and use his death for political gain this needs to stop. Now the allegations they kept coming and they made it all The Way to the president ial Debate Stage, where trump spread them on national television well, joining me now to fact, check all this and to discuss what has happened since the mayor of springfield, ohio, mayor rob rue. Mayor. Thank you so much for joining us your community has been thrust into really an international spotlight. And i wonder if you can first update me on this Warnings Bomb threats, you have any leads of who might have called them in thank you for having me on the show as of right. And we do not have any leaned on exactly who has we received them by an Email Everybody is safe. People were safely evacuated. And weve take safety. Were taken to Safety Precautions to make sure Everything Everything is secure in springfield after these threads. Just extremely unfortunate morning in springfield. What are the email say . The email did Reference Anger and Frustration And Hatred towards the Immigrant Population or community. And among other things, you can imagine the distrust in the political leaders in our community and then threatened to have threatened that they were bombed in certain buildings. Youve highlighted on your show had you ever received these types of threats prior to this weeks events prior to this event some of the commissioners and myself have received hateful Phone Calls emails some of us not wanting particularly my ill speak to mind had received voicemails and emails that they dont want us around anymore. Please die. You and your family. I mean, just heinous stuff like that and all leads to the community having an increased population of Patient Immigrants. Is that the impetus for this well, theres been a lot there has been a lot of pressure in our community. I cant sit here and say that its not been difficult to deal with a fast growing populations over the three years weve had you know, 20 needs to 25 increase in our population. You put that strain on any city. There infrastructure is going to feel the weight of it, going to feel the stress of it. People are going to be tired and frustrated. So i have to have Understanding Empathy for that and absolutely do but were just we need to get to a better place. You know, we need help not hate as springfield is a beautiful city. We are not were not imploding on ourselves. This is a beautiful town. You can see pictures of it right there we have a community thats seen an increase of over 8,000 jobs over the last decade. We have a community that comes together. We are vibrant, we work collaboratively to solve issues unfortunately right now, we have to focus on making sure this rhetoric is dispel that these rumors are just, theyre just not true. Springfield is a beautiful place and your pets are safe and springfield its unbelievable. You even have to say that mayor on that front, yet one of the reasons you have to say it because the former president united states Donald Trump, has been talking about this amplifying that very false rumor. And in fact, hes still using your town as a Talking Point here. He was today at a rally in arizona. Listen is it plays springfield, ohio that you can reading about 20,000 illegal Patient Immigrants have descended upon the town of 58,000 people destroying their entire way of Life. 911 goes, you can show residents are reporting that the migrants are walking off with the Towns Iss they take it you know, when he saw in the car and 11 even walking off with that pets. Could you speak to the former president , what would you tell him we need help, not hate. You have a stage. I mean, anybody let me just say any political leader that would standard take a microphone can, even say springfield with a bit of a hate in with a bit of springfield i mean, thats just frustrated. We have a beautiful city and we need, we need the national stage to pay attention to what their words are doing to cities like ours Legacy Cities in ohio, Legacy Cities in the midwest that are working hard hard to be significant. And we are doing well at that. We dont need this pushback that is hurting our citizens and hurting our community. I would say that to anybody that would take the mic and say these things it is surprising that some of these words are coming from one of your own ohio senators, j. D. Vance frustrating what is the harm, if any, that is befalling upon the haitian population when youve got this increased rhetoric and the anger towards them from people outside the community who werent looking at the reasons you have talked about having to deal with the influx in terms of the strain on resources. Are they now in danger based on this rhetoric . I think just as a human being, i have a lot of compassion for the haitian community that is, that is there. You know, they, theyve come here out of very terrible situation. Theyre here and theyre here under the current governments protective status and its not like anybodys leaving tomorrow. So we as a community have to get our arms around the situation were to do that with compassion and not hate and not to stain is it is a concern. Is that an Infrastructure Strain with absolutely is. And thats why weve been asking for how governor Mike Dewine has been very helpful know there is not troops being sent to springfield. We have a coordinated effort with our police department, the sheriff lets department and the State Highway Patrol to help us with reckless operation. Third government troops being Sickness Break though because this issue, he has also assisted us with funding to help our Health Care system, which was needed because we need Translation Services to assist the people that are in our community mayor, rob rue. What you described important what is being said really just debilitating to any of the causes youre seeking. Thank you so much for joining thank you well, some republicans are pointing the finger at this Trump Ally for Feeding Conspiracy Theories to the former president. Lets look into farright activist, Laura Loomer, someone to extreme, even apparently from Marjorie Taylor greene her rhetoric and her tone is, does not match the base, does not match. Maga does not match. Most republicans i know and i am completely denouncing it now way to network. 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And all started when near would far right, internet personality Laura Loomer played into racist tropes about indians on x posting that the White House was smell like i got to say curry and speeches would go through a Call Center if Kamala Harris Wins Greene called the Post Racist was it said loomer should take it down. Loomer doubled down and called green a Sellout Welcome and pride themselves as fierce defender of Donald Trump and want to be in his Inner Circle loomer, even accompanied trump to the debate in philadelphia On Tuesday, and She Sat was with him . Yes, she is 911 vance. So youre probably asking who is she . Well, she is a failed congressional candidate once banned from Social Media platforms because of her antimuslim rhetoric. And she promoted a false Conspiracy Theory that 911 was an inside job. So it was confusing to say the least, to see her with Trump Yesterday some republicans, they worry she is influencing trump with conspiracies. Senator Lindsey Graham urging trump to distance himself from lumera saying, quote, i think the president would serve himself well to make sure this doesnt become a bigger story. Too late. My panel is back with me now. Brian white is Laura Loomer spending so much time with trump . And why is Trump Letting are hanging around because i think you, if you go to maralago, you see a lot of people who go there and shes one of the various people who shows up from time to time. I wouldnt say shes anywhere close to the Inner Circle, but certainly he follows. He likes to have her in Social Media, likes having her as that advocate there. He doesnt agree with most of her issues, but hes hes sort of big tent. He wants more and more people, joining the Maga Movement and then talking about the message of the Working Class folks. And that is what loomer apparently shes done in the past, doesnt do the opposite though, and alienate people who are not subscribing these theories and youre trying to widen your tent because seven days before the election i as a conservative republican, one of the frustrating things about Donald Trump world is yes, in 2024, hes brought on serious professionals, President Company included Chris Lacivita is an old colleague and friend. But theres also the Addams Family Part of Trump World. And theyre 911 truthers and their pillow salesman, and they infect Trump World and maybe theyre not in the Inner Circle, but theyre standing next to them and theyre always right there. And it sends a very real message to not just to voters, but to but to foreign leaders. That theres something wrong in Trump World and that the president himself is part of what former president is part of whats wrong. He invites these people in. Thats a problem. Listen to the professionals, stay away from the Atoms Family and as a Case And Point to your previous segment, the Arizona Republican Party put a billboard of the cats and the geese that were being eaten, which obviously arent political professionals or at least extensively political professionals are spending money on this kind of thing. Its destructive, its not helpful, and republicans would be smart they, as far away from it as possible. Listen to Marjorie Taylor greene, which is what ive never said before right . And thats what im im surprised by trying to understand that this was the indian food jokes and the antiamerican jokes were too far for Marjorie Taylor greene. But this is the, of all the things and the only thing i can see politically is that there is a Significant Indian American Population that is politically active in this country. And there are many republicans in that movement, right now, many who have supported trumps relationship with Modi And India and some of the hindu nationalists so all i can see is that maybe that is why Marjorie Taylor greene feels like she needs to defend for the first time, an Immigrant Population, but then if thats true, does in this brian risk alienating the very voters and widening a base if people already associate trump with Conspiracy Theories like birtherism, associating with another person known for Conspiracy Theories significantly undermines your ability to to say this isnt really who i am. No less i think when you have Marjorie Taylor greene or even some of these other surrogates that speaking that Commuting Stand i think thats a more powerful message than this social Media Person who were talking about you know, listen, shes going to garner news. Shes a provocateur. Weve had provocateurs on the republican side for a long time. The democrats have had provocateurs on their side, but at The End of the day the adults are the ones who could be making the policy decisions. And im glad Marjorie Taylor greene spoke up and when she did, but at The End of the day, we have specific people that are targeting these communities and delivering an effective message. And we also know most important thing that ever threeandahalf years the country wants change and they want away from this inflation economy. And thats whats driving the issues of the day. Its not going to be who jumped on the plane was on. If you want to focus on lets issues where trump does have an advantage, you dont then take a 911 truth or two sacred ground on american soil, which is which is groundzero, you wouldnt take an antisemite to the Holy Land with you, Donald Trump needs to be smarter. The people who are around him to professionals, need to have sharper elbows and i know theres a battle within the campaign, but the adults at some Point Need to win. And this is what worries everybody that those malicious factors have a too big a place in Trump World. Well, you relying on your staff to take care of everything thats fundamentally your problem, is that the candidate, the principle is the one whos acting out of his love. The company you keep. Well keep you hashtag martha coates. Thank you, everyone so much is my moms name. There you go breaking news tonight, miami Dolphins Quarterback Tua tagovailoa leaves. Tonights game against the Buffalo Bills with yet another concussion will the Nfl Step in . Jamil hill is here with me next cabinet calls coming on site, shams, the Number One im Cold Shortening brands highly recommended people loves i cams unique thank formula. It shorts colxs. Zach can shorten that hold the average person would rather suffer through Team Building exercises. Then look for insurance. The zebras. 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There, especially he collided head first with the Buffalo Bills, damar hamlin, who by The Way, nearly died himself on a Football Field just over a year Ago Hamlin is physically fine to of though is not he has had multiple concussions in his career and even considered walking away from football because of those injuries. Former Dallas Cowboys wide receiver, it dez bryant, weighing in tonight saying thats it. Nfl. Go ahead and do the right thing to has had entirely way too many concussions. He needs to retire for his longevity, health concerns. Now i want to bring in jamil hill, contributing writer for the atlantic and host of the Jemele Hill is unbothered podcast, jamal, so difficult to watch what happened tonight. He he has multiple concussions going just in the 2022 season. Should the nfl let him continue to play i know that people probably dont want to hear this, but i dont know that its necessarily up to the nfl. Certainly they can exert pressure and because the fact that he was thinking about doing this before, after suffering multiple concussions in 2022, let you know that he understands the gravity of the situation. It was a tough watch, not only because of The Way that that had happened, but also because its burned in our brain. What happened in 2022 when he suffered a concussion, he was somehow allowed to go back into the game by The Way, against this very same team and then once there was an investigation, they fired the independent neurologists and the nfl created a system where just based off the optics that they can hold you out of a gay. And so seeing what hes already suffered, hes married, hes got two kids i think, and his family was supposed reportedly in there with them as he went out of this game. I think hes got to make a really serious choice here about what he wants future to be. I get it. Hes 26 but still this is your longevity that youre talking about as Des Ryan alluded to . Sparks another conversation thats always being had around the Nfl Season and beyond about the safety of the sport more broadly, you have spent fans and spectators who loved to watch, love the contact, want to see it all. Then youve got the darker side of the health risks that are at play this yet another example of that conversation and i wonder how quickly the tide will change back to the sport. Entertaining alone so heres the part that i think a lot of us whove watched football for a long time understand they cannot make a safe game i dont care how they change the helmets. I dont i mean, i certainly things can be prove so dont get me wrong. Theres progress thats been made, but you cant treat the Nfl And Football in general, whether its the nfl college, us sports or whatever, its like, its never going to be a safe game that they Cant Guarantee things like this will happen. It was so great lord that you pointed out the fact that damar hamlin, we as a public watching yeah. We almost saw this guy die on The Field. And that is the risk every time somebody in a Nfl Uniform or any football uniform, every time they sued up. That is what it is. Every hit is a collision, every hit is a car accident. You cannot program or direct or orchestrate or choreographed how these hits are going to happen. And because he suffered so many concussions already, the slightest little thing makes them more susceptible again tomorrow, hell, its just difficult to watch. We know about things like Cte And Beyond and how these were being studied and the Cost Benefit Analysis that every player in the league has to think about jamil always relying on you for your expertise. Thank you so much appreciate you, laura. Thank you. Ahead with no third debate on the books and it in Trumps Pocket for the second what are the next steps for his campaign . 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Tuesdays debate, and hes a familiar face on television knows how this thing goes with me now, bill oreilly, host of no Spin News and coauthor of the brand new book, confronting the President S no Spin Assessments from washington to biden bill, good to see you here tonight. Thank you for joining. Listen. You said that both Trump And Harris had a poor debate what do you make of Trumps Decision not to do any more of them that the right move for today. I guess what i think hell change his mind first of all, thank you for having me on your program is coates very nice of you to invite me. Thanks for that. When you are assessing a debate like this and youre going to say, well, who won . The american people should be winners of all political debates. That did not happen On Tuesday night. So neither candidate won the debate on merits mr. Trump allowed himself to be baited into talking about things that are totally irrelevant. To our Life in america today. I mean, totally and the Vice President simply wouldnt answer any direct questions. I mean, i listed them. I think there were eight direct questions that she dodged the not answered and unfortunately, the moderators did not hold the Vice President accountable or follow up and say, as you you and i wouldve said thats nice, but you really didnt answer the question won The American people didnt win. When you talk about the different areas you think that were shortcomings to say when what was not being asked and obviously part of was baked into the Recipe Bill of a debate is not the granular specificity that i think maybe a whitepaper or a Platform Position would actually provide. But even though thats the case, what are the areas that you thought both missed some opportunities to demonstrate their command of an issue that The American Public wants to know about alright, i dont know anything about granular. All i know is that ive interviewed five President S and i would never let them dodge any question i ever asked period. Okay. I mean, a lot of that is in my book confronting the presence. If i asked you a Ms Coach Question to you dodge. Im going to say to the audience well, you dodge your question. Do you want to have another shot at it . All and you know me. I mean, thats how i made my reputation. Now a good a good question you just asked is, what would the missed opportunities . So Kamala Harris obviously is dubious to many voters. All right, because they dont know who she is. She does doesnt do interviews routinely. Her people keep her away from all press conferences. Any kind of unscripted of that. Heres an unscripted event that Kamala Harris could look. Heres who i have, and this is what i believe its not enough to say my values are the same. What values we need to talk about theres an open border . Value of yours, do you believe that foreign nationals you just pour in here and cause chaos is not a value. What happened to inflation . Why did it ignite so quickly . What kind of value is that american working people are getting hurt . Those are the kinds of questions that the audience, all 60 Million of them wanted to hear. Donald trump for whatever reason i dont know and i know the man as well as anybody on earth. I wrote a book on them then united states known, but 35 years. He cant discipline himself not to take the bait so the Vice President bateson, width, have you ever been to a Trump Rally . People leave all trump out and say was you would be lucky to have right now, the attendance i have uniform, his Vice President at my rally but that what i mean that would also take the bait as opposed to i think the focus, for example she would put these little baiting moments and she would have them at The End. Were in the middle of a maybe even burying the lead around issues of Substance Electorate cared about and then he would go and go on tangents, for example, about whats happening purportedly happening in places like springfield, ohio. He wasnt just addressing the point and then being dismissive of it. He doubled down on a number of points even when he was Fact Factcheck by, theres ample david where i wonder, is it is it worth it strategically to try to address every insult or would it have been more disciplined to go and talk about what could have been the achilles heels youre absolutely correct. 100 correct. White bother with that she certainly chose not to ask the question when youre asked a question about undocumented people causing trouble in the country. And you go into somebodys eating a Cocker Spaniel i like zone. All right. Thats where it is. All you do is go one name, Laken Riley thats all all right. Then you go aurora, colorado i mean, you dont go into the theater of the absurd, but for some reason, the former president likes that theater any loses credibility by doing that part of this is all wrapped up into your book and pardon me, your book is called confronting the President S no Spin Assessments from washington the biden. And in it, you confront really some of the more important or the most important moments and short comings you were very critical, frankly, of the former President Obama for sample, but you recently said that obama was the hardest working modern president and you put him in the good category. And im curious, we are looking at the landscape of it what made you now put him in that category because Brock Obama was one of the hardest working President S weve ever had and he was sincere, is a sincere man. I dealt with him a lot or you interviewed him three times and we work together on brothers keeper. I know the man pretty well. Now he made mistakes as all of them do all 45 men made serious mistakes. And obamas big mistake was withdrawn. All troops from iraq and allows allowing isis to rise and ferocity. Now he partially corrected that because i wrote another book called killing. The killers of the Obama Administration did. Finally wise up and go in and get them and then trump wiped them out. Trump, the Trump Administration wipe isis out. And really crippled iran as well. But Barack Obama was a president who really tried to improve the country. I disagreed with it. I dont im not a big Government Guy i think youve wasted an enormous amount of money, but i do believe obama obamacare, in hindsight, if you want to be accurate, help a lot of americans and continues to do so it might not be The Way i would run it because i want a smaller government. But theres No Doubt that poor people in America Benefit from obamacare. Thats the truth. And im in the Truth Business whats so fascinating about this Booking Everyone should read it, confronting the President S is really the disk since at which ones able to a judge and assess the president and truly have a real understanding of their value and contribute contributions to our nation maybe distance is required and ill see how The American voters view biden and going forward, bill oreilly, thank you so much for joining us. Begging for grabbing and ms coates. Pleasure. You can call me laura thank you. So much for watching anderson cooper, 360 is next tonight on 360. Donald trump says, its one and ron still claiming victory in his debate with Vice President harris. Hes now backing away from another also tonight, why is the former president traveling around and listening to Conspiracy Promoter whose latest move is attacking the Vice President s ethnic background, keeping him on it and later, how lucrative the Vice President s campaign says the debate was for them, and how shes trying to turn her performance into votes in one battleground state. Good evening. Thanks for joining us just two days after a debate that most observers from across the political spectrum said Donald Trump lost