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Least 12 Members Today was Walkie Talkies and at least 14 were killed. Video captured one of the dramatic moments of carnage, a warning the video were about to play for you, maybe difficult to watch. But what youre about to see is device is set off at a funeral earlier today. Here is some of that moment Yesterdays Attack and todays the targets appear to be members of hezbollah, the group backed by iran that the u. S. Desk to me, its a Terrorist Organisation. Cnn has a team in beirut, lebanon and were going to go there in just a moment amidst fears that this could turn things into a wider war. But first breaking news in the Money Lead markets are closing now, on the heels of the highly anticipated decision by the federal reserve to cut Interest Rates in the united states by a halfpoint. That dow finished slightly down 102. 75. After that initial bounce when the news came out two hours ago, Cnn Business Anchor Julia Chatterley is falling all this closely and julia, this is a significant move for anyone looking to borrow or save money. Huge and full plus years in the making for borrowers first, if you own a Credit Card, Youll Rate on that card will adjust pretty quickly. The problem is the average rate on a new Credit Card right now is around 25 . So even with a big cut today, its sort of a rounding yeah, were are rounding everything you might not notice the difference for auto loans, for example, the hope is that this will now start to bring them down from incredibly high levels. But youre right that youre offered depends on your credit history. It depends on what car youre buying so my advice on both of those Things Shop around for mortgages. Weve already seen Mortgage Rates coming down the around 18 month lows for 30 years. This is good News Today if you have an adjustable rate mortgage, if you have a Home Equity Line of credit, because those rates will tick down what it doesnt help with is the overall level of high prices that unfortunately is not a fixed by Interest Rates. And finally, if youre a saver, jake to your point this is crucial lockin high rates. Now, before we see rates come down further, certificates of deposit savings rate, if youve got the money invested, this is the first Rate Cut in four years, as you noted, Inflation Asian was the main reason for not doing so before. In theory, does this mean that the Central Bank anticipates inflation is going to keep slowing down. Are there any potential concerns that this move might suggest . Not according to the federal reserve today, what theyre saying is they think inflation will continue to come down just a little bit more and thats whats giving them all the room now to support the jobs market. And what they hope to do is prevent the Unemployment Rate rising much further from here again, it doesnt ultimately have an impact on the overall level of prices, grocery prices, for example, of what 20 over the last three years, it doesnt help bring those down, but we have we seem to have contained inflation rises. This move comes 48 days before the election in the united states, the fed generally tries to stay away from politics or so they claim, does this rule out the chances of another Rate Cut in october or november it doesnt the fed said today that they hope to cut a further half a Percentage Point this year and they have to meetings left in november and december. In fact, the next week i think its just two days after the president ial election if we dont have a result, if there is financial market turbulence, they will stand ready to act. Now when he was asked today, Jay Powell said, look, its all about the economy ultimately, and they do try to be politically agnostic as you pointed out. But look, Rate Cuts at the margin they helped the White House and they help the incumbent yeah, im sure well hear from mr. Trump on that. Julia chatterley in new york. Thank you so much. Were going to dig more into the politics of this all and just a few minutes, but lets turn now to the other big story in our World Lead and the two consecutive days of attacks in lebanon, dozens of radios exploded earlier today, they were carried by members of the iranbacked hezbollah terrorist group. Just one day after deadly blasts using thousands of the organisations pagers, cnns Ben Wedeman is in very rude and filed this report for us The Day before is disrupted by another explosion a wave of Walkie Talkie Blast across lebanon killed more than a dozen injured, hundreds wednesday coming barely 24 hours after hundreds of pagers, blew up across the country at Food Markets in shops, killing at least 12 people, including two children and injuring around 2,800 others in what Cnn Sources say was an attack by Israels Mossad and military against hezbollah unprecedented in its Scale And Nature outside the American University Of Beirut hospital, distressed Family Members wait for updates on their Loved One friends and relatives of the injured, dont want to speak on camera, but off camera. One told us, for instance, that a friend of his received a message on his pager. He looked at it and the pager blew up in his face, damaging is eyes, and his fingers. And in fact, the Chief Medical Officer here told us the majority of the injuries are to the eyes, to the hands, and the hips, where of course people were holding their pagers. When it seemed that on 200 the patients who received them in a very short time, about within an hour or two, almost all of them went inside our doors. So this stretch are pretty much too ten lebanese Security Source says the militant group bought the devices that exploded in recent months for me, taiwanese Company Gold Apollo however, Gold Apollo denies manufacturing the devices and says It Distributor in hungary is responsible a taiwanese Security Official said theres no record. The pagers were shipped to lebanon or anywhere in the middle East Hezbollah has vowed to retaliate a message echoed by one of the groups lawmakers who saw her on the stump, the resistance will continue to support for gaza, will continue on the israelis well regret what they have done the tension between Israel And Hezbollah is nothing new for most of the past year, crossborder skirmishes have been common. These Device Explosions represent a new level of escalation and wednesday, israels Defence Minister said the explosions mark a new era in Israels War against his butler worried citizens are now suspicious of everyday devices including one found in a Parking Lot near a busy Hospital Security detonated it nic controlled explosion learned that israeli officials actually informed their american counterparts on tuesday of an operation that they were going to conduct in lebanon without actually providing details of this unprecedented operation. That of course, left at least 2,800 people injured in this comes so did time when secretary of State Antony Blinken is on his way back. Yet again, to the Middle East to try to work out the possible its ability of some sort of progress in achieving a ceasefire, not the first time that israel has conducted operations. That to have seriously complicated american diplomatic efforts in the region. Jake, yeah, indeed i just spoke with some Hostage Families whose Loved Ones are being held by hamas In Gaza and they were barry distressed by this operation, which they said doesnt do anything to get their Loved Ones, Loved Ones home. Ben wedeman in beirut. Thank you so much. Appreciate it. Our Veteran Law Enforcement Officer And Cnn chief legal and intelligence analyst, john but miller standing by. John, thanks for joining us. Heres my the very first question when i heard about this, are you surprised that members of hezbollah are still walking around with electronics after what happened yesterday . I think yesterday was their worst day until today. Yesterday, they had to worry about these pagers being compromised as a targeted operation against one piece of equipment that came from one place when the Walkie Talkies blew up today, hezbollah had to come to the full realisation of what had only been as suspicion, which is what if theres more now as an organisation, they have to look at every device they have figured out where it came from, how they got it if its compromised, which means paranoia. And fear has to be very, very high inside that organisation. Yeah, maybe put down the game boy. What should we and hezbollah expect tomorrow . Well, that is the root of this operation, which is theres two theories on that. One, if youre israel and you have converted multiple pieces of equipment that hezbollah uses. You know, theyre going to be looking inside everything they own how might be the time to degrade the organisation further by setting them all off on the psyops side. Jake, just let them wonder and be on the backfoot but because if you look at it, they understood their phones were compromised. So they moved to pagers, then their pagers were revealed to be self warn Hand Grenades controlled by no an adversary. Then they move to Walkie Talkies, which started exploding, would even larger caches of explosives because the larger device could fit them. Now, are they down to them . The point where they have to be sending guys on scooters, carrying notes between different commanders in order to communicate. In the most old School Way possible. If youre hezbollah and youre getting ready to attack israel, that means your communication slows down to a crawl, which in war time is bad. If youre israel and youre about to attack hezbollah that means that their ability to communicate, to fight back is also degraded so basically, hezbollah is reassessing everything about what its able to do and how its able to work right now and what about the psychological effect of these attacks . What does this do to the operatives . The terrorist of hezbollah . How does this impact their morale and their effectiveness . You know, jake, this might in the larger picture, be a better, better psychological Operations Intelligence and military than it was a tactical success for taking out that number of players, which is at the bottom of the organisation, they have to be asking themselves too, are leaders know what theyre doing . Do they know what theyre buying . Do they know where its coming from at the top of the organisation . The leaders have to be he asking, what do we do to fix this . Do we have to throw out everything we own and start from scratch in the middle of a time when were expected to be largely at the behest of iran Attacking Israel as the surrogate we have been for that government for a long time. Its really got them off balance and questioning their own ability to function. All right, john miller, thanks for those insights. Appreciate it. Some big news. Just in rock in the 2024 race, the key Endorsement Neither Candidate is going to be scoring this Election Year plus Sarah Huckabee sanders, the governor of arkansas called out by a Top Adviser to Donald Trumps campaign i found that vince that that comment to be actually offensive i dont know what more to say about them disappointed and sara was saying that im sure he get criticism from the campaign the comment from Governor Huckabee sanders that sparked that reaction from an adviser to the Trump Campaign and why she might have said it in the first place. 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Voters tell pollsters all the time and Todays Decision by the federal reserve to cut Interest Rates by a Half Point will make it less expensive a bit less expensive to take out a mortgage for a home to you or to borrow money for a Car Loan and lower Interest Rates on Credit Card balances so how might this impact the race for the White House . Lets bring in our panel. So a recent Abc News Ipsos Poll found that us adults give trump a seven Point Edge over harris on who they trust on the economy. Do you think this Rate Hike will change that at all or have any impact on the race i dont think its going to change it one bit. I think when you look at what is impacting the american families, it is the economy. The economy, the economy. And inflation to. So while the Rate Cut will help a little bit, it does matter and it is something we should be talking about a why we need a Rate Cut right now and you look the cost of groceries at more than 20 in the cost of electricity up more than 30 , the cost of gas up over 1 since the Bidenharris Administration came in . Thats what people are going to be thinking about when they go to the polls. And this Rate Cut. Well, good, isnt going to be enough to bring it back to stable so far we havent heard anything from President Trump, former President Trump on this ray change, but Vice President ial Nominee Senator j. D. Vance, did just say something at a Campaign Event in North Carolina. Lets roll that tape to what american families have been dealing with for the last what do you think . Yeah, i mean, look, i think this is good in the sense that the democrats are going to be able to say, look, things are going in the right direction it certainly better than it going the other way. And Kamala Harris has its been, i think almost surprisingly, has been doing better and better in each poll with people on the economy, that gap between where trump was in terms of people thinking that he was better equipped to handle the economy versus her. That gap has been closing seven points is not nothing but its more narrow than i remember it being used to be a lot bigger. I mean, it was but thats the thing one of them sort of unbelievable things about the Harris Campaign is that and i think it must be because they called it bidenomics and they call it bidenomics before the economy was improving at all. And so Joe Biden, the economy was like an albatross around his neck and because he was so defensive around the Economy Couldnt see forward. He couldnt see a way to talk to the people who are still hurting when it came to inflation shes done much more to go right directly at the Middle Class. Shes done a lot more to say that we need to do more and i think things like this allow her to say see, were starting to move things in the right direction. And yet bad news for the Harris Campaign on monday, xi met with the Teamsters Union union, which has only supported democrats since Dukakis Somebody said, yeah and moments ago they just announced that theyre not going endorsed anyone for president in 2024. Thats a blow for the Harris Campaign. She needs those Union Voters to turn out for her. But i again, i dont think the endorsement necessarily matters who these people who are actually going to go vote for. I think a lot of unions endorsing their Rank And File members dont support who they are. The top leadership is endorsing. I do think it is a little bit concerning, but i also think that this is part of maybe they havent had enough time to understand who she is. Shes only been at the top of the ticket for a short amount of time and Joe Biden with such a Middleclass And Union person, then it made sense to endorse him. So i dont think it is a blow in terms of shes going to now lose pennsylvania or michigan, but it is something to take note of. And i think shes still needs to be messaging the economy. Assume you disagree well, i think it does matter the teamsters not being willing to endorse, i think shows a representative of where the teamsters members are. This isnt just an inside the Beltway Talk about getting enough people to sign a letter. These are this represents 1. 8 million registered teamsters members those are voters, those are voters who are going to show up. And i think its like a two to twotoone for Donald Trump and i agree with sarah that the Harris Campaigns been a decent job trying to distance herself from her own economic record, but remember, she was the tie caspian vote on the Inflation Reduction Act which led us to the position we are right now needing this Rate Cut. So arkansas governor and former White House press secretary, Sarah Huckabee sanders did a, they called it a town hall. I dont know what it actually was a Campaign Event. Lets call it with former President Trump. And she took a shot at Vice President Kamala Harris in interesting way, lets roll that so my kids keep me humble unfortunately Kamala Harris doesnt have anything keeping her humble. Kamala harris is a step mom, but did not have biological children of her own. What is the point . Does not win any voters over and i just as a campaign strategy, whats the point of it . Let me go after harris. Sure. But going after all women who havent had biological children were even going after harris for not having biological children. That doesnt make any sense. And i think this is why republicans are just getting killed with women and right now, if youre the democrats and look, republic, democrats are having a lot of trouble with men. But if they can blow out this gender gap. And every time i do a Focus Group with swing voters, they bring up j. D. Vance talking about childless cat ladies, like this is the kind of thing thats breaking through and is really causing, i think independent voters to say, why are they, why do they keep attacking women . I hear women talking about this and especially when abortion is now one of the most salient issues in the election to keep going after women and pushing them. Ive never Christina Campaign do more to alienate a single one of the single largest Voting Bloc in an election. Yeah, i mean, its, it first of all, changed the 100 rounds a name. She is a sitting governor. She should show some pronounced well, shes still not doing it, but here we are in secondly making people feel less than and making people secondclass citizens is just a mean. Its horrible to do. Its mean. It also is alienating to people. Why republicans independents and democrats, youre just making women secondclass citizens and its disgusting that theyre doing this. I dont you dont think this is a legitimate topic for conversation even, right . I dont i think the four second clip that we just heard ignores everything that it came before that and everything that came heard. Bryan lanza, who is an adviser to the Trump Campaign on cnn last night, saying that he was offended by it . Yes, ive heard many, many words and tonnes of ink has been spilled about that four second clip, i think what is more interesting is the words that came afterwards was talking about the failure of this administration that has led us to the economic situation that were in right now. And that is what i think we should have a little bit of humility about before we talk about wanting to take a giant Government Control steps about regulating prices, about banning help private Health Care. These are really bodacious and aggressive Position Cb taking on the government i mean, when were looking at a failed system, right . Okay. But the reason that people are making it an issue is because its not an isolated comment, right . This is in the context of the fact that democrats are, that republicans have very weirdly decided to centre the idea of women who dont have children and maybe have cats being the reason the country is bad and i just could not fathom if i was running a campaign and i was like, who are the biggest Voting Bloc in the country while its women, women vote, slightly higher proportion than men. Weve been doing terribly with them lets figure out how we push them away completely. And also humiliate, degrade them in the process, it is it really emphasises just the cruelty and the disregard and the way that the Trump Campaign has. I think now for years, treated women, but also just the way that they decided to treat people which is nastily and the republicans are not centering this. I think corporate media and Democrat Strategists are quite effective got it. All. We have to comments, you have to comments that youre referencing, but i think what theyre trying to make the point that is that they are fighting for positions for families. And when you look at the some of the progressive positions that Democrat Politicians are pushing our position is that theyre insulated from, they are talking about rent been more than 20 up. Vice president Harris Hasnt paid Rent Gas being at more than 1. Shes got a security detail. Were talking about electricity been up 30 more than it was when they can she doesnt pay to matter to people, but then say Bhatt Bone Insult women, like theres a difference you can have im an economic argument and you can say all those things. Say that. Why do you need to insult women . Fundamentally does not make sense because theyre isolating just as a representative of the corporate media here, can i just do you really think Governor Huckabee sanders made that Comment Thinking that we wouldnt cover it the next day. I heard the comment and i listened to it because it was pointed out, i think what came before that was a woman talking about wanting to fight for her Family And Fight for her children and trying to stay humble. And there was a transition there when she then went and talked about, you really dont think she was trying to point out the Kamala Harris, Vice President harris doesnt have biden logical children. I dont think that thats how people think. I dont and i didnt hear that until it was told to me that this is how were going to discuss it, which of course ive seen on tv day, but what she followed it up with was the failed policies of the Bidenharris Administration, which i think sara points out really well, she is running from and almost successfully. Nobody is taking issue with that part of her remarks. Its sara, am i am i am a corporate media are we being unfair here know and i think that part of this, so first of all, i dont know how you can interpret her comments. Any other way, but more importantly in that its not too comments, j. D. Vance has been going on every weird Bro Podcast to make sure to talk about not just childless cat, ladies, thats almost the funny part, but also that women in abusive relationships should stay in those relationships the way that they defend people like Laura Loomer who are talking about how if Kamala Harris is in the White House, its going to smell like curry. This has become the most, the way that they are currently terrorising the people of springfield with their racist smear about eating dogs and cats like this is the most vicious despicable lie filled campaign ive ever seen. And that is comparing it to what was a pretty significantly in decent campaign that Donald Trump ran in 16 and 20. Hold that thought or keeping the panel, but i do have to pay so pay some bills what more to talk about coming up. Propublica is out with a report about two Women In Georgia who reportedly were denied abortions that were medically necessary according to this report and the editor in chief behind that story is going to join us next. Were layering up to walkthrough and a Toy Asli ganginfested part of El Salvadors capital. 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First, eva, tell us briefly how propublica found the stories of these two women that the article spotlights and why you did the story well, first of all, thanks so much for having us to discuss this important reporting by the seraina and others at propublica. We knew immediately when the Dobbs Decision came down and we heard doctor saying that women would become ill, would die. Eventually, we felt like as an investigative outlet that measures harm that we should look for any harm that might be occurring. So we looked in places like georgia that have Abortion Bans at records. We talked to sources and we found two cases that are clearly related to the states Abortion Ban and were continuing our work and we think its important that the public understand the potential harm that is occurring because of these Abortion Bans and why exactly were they denied care . Well, in the case of the first case Ambers Case was a story we published monday she wasnt medical assistant. She went after georgias Abortion Ban passed, had to go to North Carolina to obtain Abortion Medication, took it as directed, was well within the time period to take it and in very few cases, not all tissue was expelled from the body. And theres a simple medical procedure that a woman can have are supposed to have under the standard of care to prevent a, an infection that could kill, kill them. Amber went to the hospital. She for 20 hours, doctors did not provide that one simple procedure which as a crime under an almost all cases in georgia now, we dont know what was in their heads in the first case, and amber Therms Case but it took 20 hours before they decided to perform this dnc. They didnt do it and she died. It was too late. The second case, this Candy Miller was affording 1yearold mother of three. She ordered Abortion Medication online because she had lupus diabetes, hypertension, and a pregnancy could have killed her er doctor said and she she took it at home and was afraid to even go to the hospital because her family told the corner after her death that due to the current legislation on a pregnancies and abortion, she was afraid to seek care. So i think the committee found these preventable. So georgia governor brian Kemps Office has responded to the reporting saying, quote they would likely both be alive today if partisan activists and socalled journalists had not spread such egregious Misinformation And Propaganda that fostered a Culture Of Fear and confusion, unquote. And Kemps Office added that they provided guidance to Health Care Providers on how to navigate the new laws what do you make of thisesponse . To your reporting ill i will say is that two weeks before Amber Thurman died the state of georgia, its called doctors warning things that women would die, fearmongering and two weeks later, Amber Thurmond died. And then several weeks after that, we have Candy Millers death. We are as we said in the story, fairly certain that there are other cases out there across the united states in which women have died in ways that maybe related to Abortion Bans. We think there needs to be more transparency, not more namecalling of journalists who are trying to inform the public and now that youve reported on these two bahar of horrible cases has propublica approached you and your reporters with other similar stories . Yeah. I mean propublica is very interested in hearing from people who whose Loved Ones have died since the Dobbs Decision in ways that they would like more information on, maybe their care was delayed maybe they had a chronic Health Condition and no exception in the State Law that maybe they took Abortion Medication, went to a hospital and didnt get help. I think that we need to look into these cases and hear from people an important point is that these state maternal mortality committees that are supposed to be reviewing deaths are about two years behind and so theyre only just starting to look at these cases see you, Brian Stelter from propublica. Thank you so much appreciate the excellent reporting, even if some people dont like the facts that youre providing them, appreciate it. Thank you, jake. Today, nearly five months after that key Bridge Collapse in maryland, a new 100 Million lawsuit has been filed by the u. S. Justice department. The allegations and who is in the crosshairs . 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Lady has chronicled his observations and thoughts on this major global event in a new book called israel alone. Published this Week Bernard Henri levy, who we last interviewed in france after the Charlie Hebdo attacks in 2015. We both look a little younger and that video right there, he joins me now. So why did you immediately go to israel and what did you see in those first few days . Why . Because i wasnt a shock because i understood that it was a huge event that our future will be reshaped competently, we the jews americans, french, and the Rub World thats why and what did i see . I was on the ground, i was in the kibbutzim on the 11 so very very quickly and i saw radical evelyn. I saw pure barbarism, pure cruelty i have images which i saw really on the field, which will never be erased from my, from my memory and i saw, i saw a few things in my life. I have been a war reporter. I was in dofu, i was in rhonda. I was in somalia, mogadishu but what i collected my what my memory collected from karamurza bury is beyond possibility of arrangement of the memory you wrote more than the israeli or jewish soul was murdered here it was our common conscience, unquote. What do you mean by that . I think thats it. Was a shock for the world, the entire world so this you know, generally in you have cruelty in any war, but there is a motive, there is a reason you want to territory, you want a political victory these, these atrocities were just for nothing just fell for atrocity raping women, burning children, killing entire families, taking hostages while a Dress Today as if they were cattle, calls this is rather unprecedented. The whole Stage Capture is unprecedented progress since antiquity, since the hostages less the sabine and the romance equals a very incredible moment. An event with a capital e, with you know, in your book. Here it is right here on israel alone, showing it right there. You take aim at the United Nations for how they responded to the sexual violence, the rapes, and the sexual crimes by hamas against israeli women. This is something that weve covered a lot on the show are there a lot of people out there who deny that these atrocities happened you did more than cover. You, made justice here because a lot of people, as you say, termed a blind eye to that. They did not want to see they asked confirmation they asked confirmation from women who sometimes were already dead. It was a shame and not only average people in the un, you had people who are really a shame for international community like mrs. Francesca albanese, who is supposed to be a special envoy for Human Rights In Palestinian Territories or her comments about that event are a pure him even yesterday after the publication of my book, of course what she said yesterday made before yesterday, that israel should be expelled from the un i never heard that for any criminal regime which is it is not israel is waging a just war of selfdefense antiterror. His war. And you have this lady from un asking for you have to be expelled. Its unprecedented, honestly what is your take . Obviously, there has been a line of civilian death in this war and i dont know how many people have been killed, but i believe prime Minister Netanyahu acknowledged that the 40,000 number was a roughly correct a couple of weeks ago, although he thinks about half of that is hamas terrorists. And Islamic Jihad fighters do you what is your hope for the, for the region, for the end of the war, for the palestinian people every palestinian civilian victim, like you, breaks my heart prevents me from slipping, of course. But who is responsible for that . Who is guilty, for these civilian casualties . Hamas, because they put it on frontline because they, forbid them to evacuate when israel wants that there will be a strike theyre responsible for that is tonight met. Of course number one when the hamas give the figures, they never say that most of them are terrorists there. They dont they dont they get Casualty Numbers in some media as like a lot of media does not pay the distinction. I covered a lot of walz generally there are all way we never take for granted the figures of one part and especially when it is a Terrorist Organisation right now, never taken for granted. Here with the hamas. A lot of media in European America everywhere take them for granted. Know, we dont put the figure, we dont know how many combatants my take that a majority of them and i know the situation are Fighters Terrorist kills and again those who are not terrorists and who are killed hamas have the terrible Responsibility And Guiltiness on their own consciousness of that, not israel. Alice you wrote in your book about how October 7 spurred a gayle of antisemitism in the u. S. And across europe, how Big A threat do you think this is in france specifically, the answer i semitism. You see in france, liking america. And it is a wave. It is more than a blast at the blast and a wave it is a Liberation Antisemitism has always existed in our countries, even in america, but it was contained and the paradoxical effect of October 7 is that these containment was broken we could have expected i expected that solidarity with the victim, a solid with the hostages. What i wait for since when . You are is the world pressing on hamas to liberate the host to free laws. Stages and to capitulate know everyone is pressing on Israel Everyone is urging israel to make a compromise. Did you american make compromise with alqaeda did we france after our last interview in 2015, did we make a compromise with isis . Did we make a negotiation with the killer of Buttock Law for Chavi Abdu of course not israel. Thats what i say. My boo in this in this war against hamas, which is more difficult that you again, against alqaeda is alone to wage that. Just fight. Bernard henri levy. Thank you so much. Really good to see you. The book again, israel alone, and its out now, Donald Trump is out it again. Putting pressure on house republicans this time urging them to shut down the federal government if they cannot tack on a controversial provision on elections. Is this a productive strategy that debate coming up . To 30 years . Ive been saying publicly what people say and turns out i have enough money. I could just shut up back to you i am saturday, October 5th on cnn. 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