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Our next guest has been a congressman, a House Republican leader, the governor of indiana, and is now the Vice President of the United States. Always a hoosier. On behalf of all of my hardworking colleagues, we are honored to welcome to the stage Vice President mike pence. [applause] mike good morning, mr. Vice president. Welcome back. You were just telling us that at the olympics, you realize that you are good at to winter sports, sledding and skiing. Vice pres. Pence if i get up the slopes without anything being broken, i think it is a gold medal. Mike in addition to the offices i mentioned at the top, you were a statewide radio host in indiana. Used to cut yourself rush call yourself Rush Limbaugh on decaf. You ever think to yourself, this would be so awesome if i was on radio still . Vice pres. Pence i do. How did you know that where i started out . That was a little radio station. I started out doing a Washington Update on wednesday nights, one day a week. It did grow into a Daily Radio Program that i thought might actually be my career in broadcasting radio and television. The opportunity came along to run for congress one of more time. Now i am sitting with u. S. Vice president of the United States. It is all very humbling to me. Mike you are just back from the olympics. On air force two on the way home you told Washington Post columnist josh rogan that you had conversations with south korea about engagement with north korea. What is the u. S. Stance for talking with north korea . Vice pres. Pence let us be clear who you are dealing with. North korea is the most repressive regime and the planet. As the United Nations has documented repeatedly, north korea is a nation that oppresses its people. Seven out of 10 north koreans require Food Assistance just to survive. Over a million north koreans were left to starve and die in the 1990s under this regime. Torture, brutality, imprisonment, more than 100,000 north koreans are in modernday gulags. As President Trump said memorably, north korea is today nothing short of a prison state. That is the reality. The fact that north korea is developing and pursuing Nuclear Weapons that could be delivered on Ballistic Missiles to the continental United States is completely unacceptable. The fixed policy of the United States of america is that we are going to continue, with all options on the table, to bring intensifying economic and diplomatic pressure to bear until north korea, once and for all, completely and verifiably abandons its Nuclear Weapons and Ballistic Missile program. That is the fixed policy of the United States of america. As President Trump has said many times, i always believe in talking. We have made it very clear that we are open to communicating our policy to the regime in north korea. What north korea needs to understand, as i made clear in an announcement in japan, when we announced a new round of sanctions that will be imposed, the largest ever. We are confident our allies will join us on it. Nothing will change until the day comes that north korea permanently abandons its Nuclear Weapons and Ballistic Missile programs and ceases to threaten the United States of america. Mike it does not sound like those two things are preconditions for any conversation. It looks like when you are looking at the tools in your belt, you are talking about more talking. Vice pres. Pence it is accurate to say that we want to make sure north korea understands us. If there is an opportunity for talks that can communicate the fixed policy of United States of america to them, the president has made it clear. He always believes in talking. Talking is not negotiation. Talking is understanding one another. When you think of the mendacity of this regime, the appalling record of human rights i sat in seoul last week with defectors from north korea, a woman who had been jailed for 28 years for no reason whatsoever. She managed to escape that regime. Another young woman who had been incarcerated and then sold into sex slavery and then, once she was recaptured, she was forced to have an abortion and lost a child she still grieves with tears in her eyes to this day. We all heard of the extraordinary and inspiring story during the president s state of the union address. We cannot allow a regime like north korea to possess Nuclear Weapons and Ballistic Missiles to threaten the United States of america because the record that they have demonstrated, their lack of respect for human rights, their lack of respect for their own people, their willingness to use violence and torture against their own people, it makes it an unacceptable outcome. We will continue to maintain north korea must completely and verifiably and permanently abandon its Nuclear Weapons program and its Ballistic Missile programs. When that commences, then and only then can we consider any change in posture by the United States or the international community. Mike is it a little swampy to say you will talk but not negotiate . It sounds a little washington. Vice pres. Pence the president has made it very clear. All options are on the table. The United States has a viable military option to deal with the threat of nuclear and Ballistic Missiles from north korea. Our hope is that we can achieve by peaceful means what they the World Community has agreed long ago, the denuclearization of north korea and the removal of Nuclear Weapons from that regime. We want to exhaust every opportunity to make sure the north koreans understand our attentions and the seriousness of the United States of america and our allies. This is a very important point. As i met with president moon, Prime Minister abe, there is no daylight between the United States of america and south korea and japan on our commitment to continue to intensify our maximum Pressure Campaign on north korea until they abandon their Nuclear Weapons program. South korea has commenced its interkorean talks over the olympics, and there is some suggestion that that may continue. We have made it very clear that we will all remain united in our shared commitment that the kim regime in north korea must permanently abandon their Nuclear Weapons program before there is any progress whatsoever on the pressure on the sanctions that are being placed on that nation. Mike this may have escaped your notice, but the north korean leaders sister got some coverage on tv. We saw pictures of her behind you in the box. Did you give any consideration to greeting her . Vice pres. Pence i did not. I did not avoid the dictators sister. I did ignore her. I did not believe it was proper for the United States of america to give any attention in that forum to someone who is not merely the sister of the dictator but is the leader of the propaganda effort. You have to remember, this is a family that very recently ordered that their brother be murdered using chemical weapons. The world saw that in horror on airport videos, reproduced. This is a regime and a family that also ordered that their uncle be executed with artillery fire in front of a crowd of 10,000 people. She is the leader of the propaganda effort of that government. This is evil the likes of which we have witnessed rarely in our time around the world. I wanted to send, by my silence, a very clear message that the people of the United States of america know who were dealing with and that we are going to continue to stand firmly and strong with resolve and with our allies until the regime in north korea ceases to threaten our country and our allies with nuclear and Ballistic Missiles. We will continue to hold them to account on their appalling record of abuse of human rights of their own people. Intelligence, dan coots, expects mike the director of national intelligence, dan coots, expects russia to interfere in the 2018 elections. Do you agree . Vice pres. Pence the first thing we all agree on is that, irrespective of efforts that were made in 2016 by foreign powers, it is the universal conclusion of our intelligence communities that none of those efforts had any effect on the outcome of the 2016 election. That is the accepted view. There were efforts by russia, and likely by other countries, to involve or influence american elections. We take that very seriously. As we speak, that inquiry, Investigation Continues to be ongoing. It is also forwardlooking. In my briefings at a variety of our intelligence agencies, we have discussed plans Going Forward to ensure that meddling in our elections by russians or other powers around the world will be rebutted, and we will continue to develop the kind of technologies that ensure and maintain the integrity of our electoral system. Mike what is an example of how you can stop or make it harder for them to interfere . Vice pres. Pence we all remember north korea hacking sony. The reality is, today, whether it be corporate espionage or other types of espionage, other countries are constantly trying to penetrate the Information Technology infrastructure of the United States of america. Hardening that infrastructure will be an ongoing effort of this administration and congress Going Forward. Let me say again, the encouraging word is that it is the universal conclusion of our intelligence communities that there was no impact on the outcome of the 2016 election. I believe that bears repeating. The American People can be confident about the results of the election in 2016. Going forward, we are going to lean into this effort to continue to ensure that our statebased election systems and all of the infrastructure of this country are protected from foreign interference. Mike you are at the olympics when the news came of the staff secretary. You are the father of two daughters. You got a lot of credit for your comments. You said there is no tolerance in the white house and no place in america for domestic abuse. You said youre going to look in into the matter. What have you found . Vice pres. Pence this administration has no tolerance for domestic violence. Nor should any american. As the white house has said, i think the white house couldve handled this better. I still feel that way. That being said, any more counsel i have on this i will share with the president of the United States. Mike are you 100 confident that general kelly has been fully honest and transparent in his estimation of rob porter departure . Vice pres. Pence there are very few americans that have served this nation more honorably or sacrifice more for this country than the family of general john kelly. John kellys service in uniform, his distinguished service at our department of homeland security, where we saw dramatic reduction of illegal dressings at our southern border, and his distinguished service as chief of staff, gives me the president me and the president great confidence. Family members in uniform, here and gone, have served this nation with the love and patriotism and passion that should inspire us all depression. Inspire us all. Mike you are saying that he think you should say stay . Vice pres. Vice pres. Pence john kelly has done a remarkable job. Mike you did a lot of overseas travel on behalf of the president. You plan an aggressive midterm campaign. You are off to the great state of texas . Vice pres. Pence we are. Im not surprised that you notice there are some elections coming up. Midterm elections for the party in office in the white house are historically challenging. I really like our chances this year. I have already been out on the campaign trail. We look forward to talking about a record of accomplishment that was made possible by republican majorities. It really is amazing to think about how far this country has come just in the first year of this administration. Rolling back federal red tape, transforming the federal judiciary, more court of appeal singleconfirmed in a year than in american history, seeing us pass historic tax relief for the American People. Tax relief that has already bonus or payans of raise. We have seen the Dynamic Growth over the last year of the stock market, adding to retirement and savings of a million americans. Last week, an agreement reached on capitol hill to lift the budget caps and finally, after years of military cutbacks, to be making a kind of investment in the American Military that will ensure the Strongest Military in the history of the world will be stronger still. I cannot be more proud of all of those accomplishments. We are putting america first. Campaigning will be a great privilege for me. Mike what is the biggest mistake the Trump Administration made in year one . Vice pres. Pence expecting a bit more cooperation from the democrat mike that does not count. Vice pres. Pence you know history better than most. The level of obstruction by the democrat minority in the senate, just to routine appointments, is astonishing. I was with the secretary of a education. We were talking about progress in our schools earlier this week. She is still waiting for her deputy secretary of education. There are five other major of appointments in the department of education that are still being held up by democratic obstruction in the senate. When the American People elected the president , they elected an administration. There has always been that great tradition that after the proper role of advising and consent that the president is allowed to surround himself with men and women they think will be able to advance the agenda that they were elected to advance. The level of obstruction has been unprecedented by this democrat minority in the senate. We hope that changes. Hopeful on the immigration issue we see more cooperation. Mike i think you were a little too hard on yourself. [laughter] mike as people understand the president , what do people get most right and wrong about the man behindthescenes . Vice pres. Pence what they get most right about my friend the president of the United States is that he says what he means and he means what he says. It is one of the reasons why the world has seen a real restoration of american credibility. When the president made that decision, in just a few short days, that syria had crossed a redline using chemical weapons against innocent civilians, this president said, i mean what i said. He launched more than 50 cruise missiles, precision impact, as a response to that. The reason why you have seen the World Community rally around President Trumps call to isolate north korea economically and diplomatically on an increasing basis because they know this president means what he says. Mike what is misunderstood . What do we get wrong about President Trump . Vice pres. Pence i am biased. I did not know him very well before he called and asked if i would be willing to be considered for this job. I met him twice. Really just in passing. I think the world gets his mind and strength. President donald trump is a man with a big heart. He loves his family. When you travel across the country, people across this country get it. I think an awful lot of people in the media dont. That is because they sense his heart. They sense his passion for this country. When he talks about putting america first, they sense of a patriotism that radiates out of him. It is like i said at the convention. You look at the family of his. The devotion to his family and his devotion of his family to him. I like what a farmer told me one time when i was being considered for this job. He said, one thing i can tell you about your candidate is, you cannot fake good kids. You look at these remarkable young people in the trump family. You sense that devotion. That is probably what i think people do not get as much as they showed in the media. I think there are an awful lot of people across this country who knew that this is a president with broad shoulders and a big heart. Mike how worried are you that special counsel muellers findings will touch the white house . Vice pres. Pence we have been fully cooperating. I can ensure you that we will continue to. It is not something that i spend a lot of time thinking about. We have attorneys that i have directed to make sure that everything that should be provided is provided and appropriate and in a timely way. What the president is focused on, and what i am focused on, every hour of every day, is advancing the agenda that we were elected to advance. I think the extraordinary progress we have made in this country, which does not generally lead to the cable news, right . The stock market was at 18,000 when election day happened. It took off like a jackrabbit. I did not check it when i walked in this morning. Despite the ups and downs of recent days, we have seen when tremendous optimism around this country. Unemployment at a 17 year low. Africanamerican employment is at the lowest level ever recorded in american history. We see companies reinvesting in this country again. We see tremendous confidence by businesses large and small. I do not think it got nearly enough attention. The bipartisan deal that the president helped drive last week that will get to his desk in a ourweeks to increase military funding by 80 billion, to finally and lastly with lift the caps that stifling our ability to meet all of our needs within our National Defense is an extraordinary accomplishment. I truly do believe that as we go forward telling that story and sharing that with the American People, we are going to continue to see more growth and more opportunity. Mike we will do a quick rapid round. You are a troublemaker. Enjoy onyou do to msnbc . [laughter] vice pres. Pence i heard about it. I did not see it. Let me just say, criticism comes with this job. It is part of this job. Mike tell them the gist. Vice pres. Pence i actually heard that abc has a program that compared my christianity to Mental Illness. I would like to laugh about it, but i really cannot. I am a believer. Like tens of millions of americans today who will have ash on their for heads to mark the beginning of lent, an overwhelming majority of americans cherish their faith. We have all different kinds of faith in this country. I have to tell you, to have abc maintain a broadcast forum that compared christianity to Mental Illness is just wrong. It is an insult not to me but to the vast majority of the American People who cherish their faith. My christianity is the most important thing in my life. I try to start every day by opening the good book. My wife and i try to have a prayer together before i leave every morning. I can honestly tell you my faith sustains me. It is a regular part of our lives. I am not unusual. I think i am a very typical american. Whatever your faith tradition, people understand that. I think it demonstrates how out of touch some of the Mainstream Media are with the faith and values of the American People. You can have a Major Network like abc permit a forum for invective against religion. I call them out on it. Not because of what was said about me. It is simply wrong. They had a Television Program that expresses that kind of religious intolerance. We are better than that. Our country is better than that. You are better than that. I would like to be light about it, but i cannot. For the tens of millions of americans who cherish their faith, i cannot be silent. Mike penultimate question. We saw the budget this week. More privatization of the space race. Do you worry that this gives more power to other countries . Vice pres. Pence i serve a president who is all about going big, higher, further, faster. When he asked me to lead the nationalonstituted space council, i knew what our mission was. That was to get nasa out of this preoccupation with lower target. , looking backrbit to the stars. The president signed an executive directive to say, were going back to the moon. Were going back there soon. The National SpaceCouncil Meets next week. The opportunity we have is, when you look at the extraordinary private investment in Space Exploration that is happening in the United States today, if you look at the commitment that we make through nasa and all of our official government investments, we think the way forward is to combine those two forces. We are looking at the deregulation of space we can have more private Sector Investment to do the kinds of things that will develop space more effectively. Allow nasa to begin focusing on human space expiration. The truth of the matter is, the Space Program inspired my youth. I sat in front of a black and White Television that day Neil Armstrong stepped on the moon. I will never forget the moment. I thought my whole life would be characterized by the next great exploration in space. The next great human expansion led by the United States of america. We all know we lost our momentum. President trump wants to get that back. He has charged us to bring together, not only public resources, focusing resources, focusing on human space expiration, and going out and bringing together all of these extraordinary american oximeters that are developing the new spacecrafts of the future. We are going to make sure that america leads in space once again. Mike you know that my morning newsletter always ends with one fun thing. You have a dog. It must be a ferocious beast. Vice pres. Pence actually no, he is a puppy. I got him on fathers day. We lost our old dog, maverick. He had been with us for 15 years. My wife said, our lives were going to be too busy to have a dog. We have to make do with a cat, hazel. And we have a rabbit named marlon bundo. It was fathers day when karen came in, showed me the new kitten. Harley came bouncing and. He is a black and white aussie. He is a whole lot of fun. For fathers day, i asked for a motorcycle. I got a puppy. I named him harley. Mike the motorcycle comes in in 2025 . Vice pres. Pence were working on it. Puppy first, harley second. Mike thank you for the conversation. [laughter] [applause] mike mr. Vice president , thank you for a great conversation. I would like to thank all of you for coming out in the middle of the day. Thanks to cspan for making this available to so many people. Thanks to bank of america for making these conversations possible. My amazing axios colleagues and all of my colleagues here, thank you very much. We will see you on axios. Com. Vice president mike pence visited the texasmexico border wall friday. This is his first visit to the area as Vice President. He took a tour of the border and learned more about the Technology Behind the border wall. He also met with local law enforcement. Here is a look at his visit yesterday. [inaudible] tonight on cspan, secret Service Director randolph pales on efforts to fight financial crimes, they fry, crypto fraud, cryptoank currency. Here is a preview. The secret service is working actively with partners on crypto currency. They are very clever in using these crypto currencies and in these business email hacks. One company was going to make crypto currency. I believe they were going to use etherium. The ceo had their email account hacked. The hacker sent out the ipo early. Moved into thes account, and he moved into another crypto currency. We got some of the money back, but they got the rest, lost. Very clever on their parts in a very devious. We did not identify the perpetrator. We did get some of the money back. We are still working that case. You can watch the entire conversation tonight on cspan at 9 30 eastern. Sunday night, former u. S. Apiro onotiator irish book, broken. He is interviewed by former Senate Majority leader tom daschle. Watch afterwards sunday night at 9 00 p. M. Eastern. Tonext, hearing on ways prevent election meddling. How the Defense Department can protect the u. S. From foreign influence. This is one hour and 25 minutes