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There aint no easy way out stand my ground i walked back down nice music. Hello. Welcome. [speaking french] [eking french] thank you for being here. It is a great honor for me to be here. I am somewhat intimidated even though it is several years since the Prime Minister and president were in office, i am still intimidated around them but i want to point out our titles start with the same word, former. So that makes a sort of equal. If i heard use the speak french before i might not have made you a veteran. You would have a lot of reasons to take that back. It is so bright i cant see but i know ramon is here somewhere. I wanted to acknowledge ramon who is actually my partner was i was ambassador, the canadian ambassador to the United States, was a remarkable Career Foreign Service officer from canada, and we did work very well together which is a model for how investors should work. President clinton worked to appoint an ambassador to canada, couldnt find one and settled on me. So lets move along here. These two gentlemen served as g8 leaders for 7 years. I can tell you from my experiences as an observer is that they developed a remarkable personal chemistry. They were always taking their responsibilities for their respective countries as their First Priority but they also knew the 9 dynamic between them, the chemistry between the would be a value both for our countries and to the world. I am not sure there have been many instances in history where World Leaders were as close as these two gentlemen were. Not just talking canada and the United States but generally. President clinton visited canada more than any president in United States history and i have to note that he came to ottawa and in october 1999 to dedicate the United States embassy there, the only time the us president in history before or since went and dedicated a us embassy outside the country which was a statement i believe about his interest in canada. He later made a speech on federalism. Prime minister Jean Chretien, almost had to get honorary american citizenship because he had relatives in New Hampshire, and became christian. People in New Hampshire speak french as well as i do. He even came to Duke University and brought a trade mission to atlanta where i live. They worked together to make north america a remarkable place for all of us but also as i said to improve the world. I have to say there were times there was a little stress in their relationship. President clinton went to make a speech at Jean Chretien as request but part of it was an inducement to play a great ball course after the speech. And the president as his habit was running a little late, starting to get dark after nine holes and the Prime Minister looked at him and said it is too dark, we have the college imagine the president looked at him, and got a little stressed and said you promised me a golf game, we are going to play a golf game, then he looks at me and i thought i was the United States ambassador but i got in charge of that. He said my ambassador will fix this. So the secret service vans and trucks pulled up to the edge of the golf course and let the fairway and he looked and said see . They finished the round. My last vignette before we get to the business at hand, there is a wonderful picture that was in Jean Chretiens office, the two of these gentlemen were at a g8 meeting in manchester, england and like schoolboys they escape from the boring meetings and went running across the pasture together to get away from the tedium of it and the Prime Minister of canada, who is 12 or 13 years older up on top of a wall helping the president of the United States climb over the wall to get away from the security guards. So i am going to give you two hands to talk. First, what i would like to ask you gentlemen is that again through my observation, there were two other people in this partnership who were not only extraordinarily supportive but drove the success each of you realized. Jean chretien, i wondered if you would tell us how she is doing and mister president , i just finished Hillary Clintons book the other night and seems like she still has some gas in the tank so i would i would i would i would like you to give us a sense how our former first lady and secretary of state is doing . Is doing well, shes here with me tonight. I have known her for 65 years. [applause] we have been married 60 years. She was my rock of gibraltar. [applause] when she has something to tell me it was very straight. You are talking too long or shut up. She would never say that. She was very good to keep me in line with my speeches meaning people, something i would make a speech and i loved doing it but not paying too much attention and she would watch. When you said that i did not applaud and did not get up. And after that i said watch them she would tell me. So, you know, what can i say . The mother of my three kids and we have five grandchildren and four greatgrandchildren, not too bad. In january i put my greatgrandson on skis and 75 feet, went down. My grandson said put your hands that is your name, william, and let you go alone, did 50 feet so when i arrived home after that, dont forget, william, you are skiing for the first time with your grandfather, no, i was skiing alone. So watch him. [applause] first of all, your beautiful wife the last thing i remember is being an american president in canada, when she took hillary skating because hillary was in chicago, i am from arkansas, we didnt do skating when i was a boy, we didnt have ice anywhere. Now thanks to airconditioning the south has professional hockey teams but back then we didnt do skating. Hillary went out and i thought she was never going to come back, just went skating on. She is doing well. It is a good book. I didnt think she had time to do a really good book but she worked so hard and two young people who worked on her campaign did and i think it was really important to try to explain especially to people who care about our country, what was happening, what in fact happened. I am proud of her, shes doing great and our daughter and soninlaw and grandchildren are doing great. My daughter, when she was in high school, thought she knew more than her parents did about everything. Alas, i finally admitted last year, it is finally true. In the year and a half her mother was running for president she worked full time, fulfilled her responsibilities at her foundation. Had her second child, wrote two books and taught a class in public health, otherwise she just lies around. So she got her mothers intelligence and character and discipline but that is a good thing. We are very blessed and very happy and i thank you for asking. [applause] [applause] at the outset i suggested the two of you developed a remarkable chemistry together. In some ways, in my eyes, i almost look at Jean Chretien as the older brother in the relationship, both of you grow up in small rural communities, both of you had an affinity for people, enjoyed people, both of you decided at an early age being involved in Public Policy was important to you and in order to do that successfully you have to be in the political process which both of you mastered, i would suggest, so the similarities are remarkable, the language is a little different but the similarities are remarkable. I remember someone once said you were difficult to understand in both official languages, i think i may get fired. Everybody understood me. [applause] this thing i would like both of you to help us understand is did that chemistry exist, and if it did did you find that it assisted you in working together not just in canada us relationships for Global Engagement that made a difference beyond our shores . Bill and i were politicians, we did that as a profession. Im very proud that i was a politician all my life because we can make differences in society. Of course you are criticize all the time, but with the kids i am sorry, mister president , it is because we have been elected and when you are elected you are serving the people and we tried to make a Better Society for everybody. We had the same goal. How can we make our People Better off . The same value we share because equality of opportunity, the ability to share in society, give opportunity to young people to build a good life for themselves, that is the goal we have. And of course it is not the risk of winning or losing but adding to the game. I was comfortable with him because i felt, like me, he was a professional politician having as a goal to do a good job for the people of the United States like i was trying to do for the people of canada. [applause] first of all, when he won and i started studying his career and realized he had virtually every ministerial post until he got to be Prime Minister, he couldnt hold down a job to save his life, kept changing jobs. I was fascinated for a lot of reasons. Identified with his background, i was born in a small town, family of modest means in a state that has the Second Lowest per capita income of all american states right after world war ii. But i was an only child until i was 10 and my mother lost the baby and had another child when i was 10 and when i learned he was the youngest of 18, that is right . 19. There were 19 but you were the 18th. I became fascinated, i have got to get to know this guy because it is an unbelievable tribute to his parents and the culture in which he was born that a person born to a family without a lot of money, the 18th and 19th children, developed a kind of personality, selfconfidence, work habits, i got a survival skill in that family. Before i met him, this guy must be something, winds up being a Prime Minister and he has got to have a lot of persistence otherwise he would not have been fed. I was utterly fascinated, even though i was not born until after the war i was a depressionera baby. Kids in my generation in arkansas we were brought up on stories of the depression, people out of work, my grandfather, to buy a mother a new easter dress, she made me had a new outfit every easter and i was young and fat and i hated it. Their dad couldnt do it. We wind up being basically economic progressive but fiscal conservative. [applause] i live in lala land in america where everybody professes to care about spending as long as they dont have to pay for it. It is a crazy time, but we were oldfashioned and some would say out of date but it worked out pretty well for us. Came to respect what he knew, what his instincts were, how smart he was, how strong he was, we had a few disagreements, we never became angry at each other when we were doing our job for our respective countries and we became real friends and i think it is important not to forget one of the reasons the world is so polarized today is we dont see each other as people. We get off in our own little silos and start out with a presumption of mistrust. I didnt feel that way, i spent 20 minutes with him and realized i could trust him. And i never wanted anything written down and didnt need it. We shook hands, i knew it would be x. That is what you want of human relations. What we need to reach after again even with people with whom we disagree, there needs to be some restoration of basic human decency and Mutual Respect so you can have trust. Without trust, things dont work very well. [applause] the first time we met i was a new Prime Minister, it was in seattle, i sat next to you, and surprised you a lot. I said i dont want to be too close because if i am too close to you, i am the 51st state of america but if i look different from you i can do things for you the cia cannot do. You remember that . I do. Close friends, played golf. Canada and america, the closest people, we deal, you are president when i was Prime Minister, one billion dollars of trade on the basics, we have very few problems, i met the mayor of montreal in a while. And we talk about it and you have to make concessions but we had in mind what is best for the country and trust is everything and we didnt try to score political points. Didnt want to take advantage of my friendship so at the g7 or g8 together we collaborated, we have each other, tried to convince the others what is not american because dealing in america, virtually no problem with immigration in the United States and canada because we understood we need immigrants. [applause] and an immigrant is an asset, food and clothing and furniture, an asset for ten years. As the consumer, so we understood that type of problem, at the meeting, this knowledge, this guy, you talk about anything with bill clinton and he read about it long before you. It was very fascinating. Not a bully at all, a great quality if he wanted to convince you he felt your pain a little bit. Wanted to convince you, sometimes others will decide this is what i want and that is it. For you you were not satisfied until you convinced us of the way ahead. I am grateful. [applause] i thought the answer was the question was it worked so well because of the quality in the two capitals but we will come back to that. There was that. You talked about, thank you for the segway, you talked about trade. Trade in the United States has become controversial. We are now trying to figure out whether we can trade between georgia and South Carolina because it is a bad word. Along with our partners in mexico, renegotiating nafta. Nafta was negotiated before you became president that you had to get it passed through congress and i suspect if it hadnt been a democrat in the white house we probably wouldnt have got it past and you did a remarkable job. You became Prime Minister and extracted a few other agreements with respect to nafta and had it approved. That was 25 years ago. I think any objective observer would say it has been enormously positive for all three countries even though there are flaws it is enormously positive. 25yearold policy needs to be updated and made forwardlooking but i would love to hear from you two whether in retrospect you think it was the right thing at that time, if so what your view is now, whether we should have a renewed nafta going forward. The first morning i was Prime Minister, first phone call, bill clinton said congratulations, the problem in congress, i was not Prime Minister, an hour later, jim blanchard. And running away to a solution, i was not even the Prime Minister. For me, trade has increased the wealth around the globe. That everybody was able to trade, emerging like china for example, hundreds of thousands of people dying every year in china, not quite prosperous and there is more than there was before, free trade. The problem after 23 years is perhaps something well distributed, the biggest problem we face at this moment, redistribution of wealth, the rich have too much in relation to what the poor have gained. We have to find a way to register that. Free trade, the trade between the two of us has been very good for canada. We are more prosperous in canada because of that. In the United States i dont know why they complain in the United States, you have the lowest unemployment in a long time, the 6 or 7 last years down all the time. We have to look at what is positive in public life and i dont like those who are always negative. Our responsibility is to make people feel good. When they feel good they get up, spend money and if you tell them you are in deep trouble, they do nothing so my score, the argument was it is very good for canada and the United States and mexico has grown a lot and become buyers of goods from canada and the United States. We have to take their goods too but we have gained a lot of growth through the free trade agreement. Nafta was a very good deal. [applause] i think it was the right thing to do. From the point of view of the United States consider what would have happened if we had defeated in terms of the rhetoric today coming out of the national administration. If we had defeated it we would have had another million or so undocumented immigrants from mexico as their economy took a terrible hit. We would have been widely loathed throughout latin america. The one place where our trade volumes went way up in the eight years i was president. We had more games in exporting latin america than anywhere else in the world. It left us all stronger, with more diversified economy. All trade agreements have one or two losers but there have been, i want to make three quick points. Number one, there have been lots of independent studies done which showed that the effects on the numbers of jobs not only in the United States but canada and texaco has been modest. What has changed is the nature of the job. Jobs tied to exports in all our countries for very Different Reasons pay more than jobs that are solely dependent on the domestic economy. With income any quality being what it is no doubt the working people benefited from these trade agreements are making more money than they would have been had there not been any. The problem in the United States, if i had to do it again this is what i would deal with. Once the republicans who wanted nafta had what they wanted, they didnt want to fund the north American Development bank, didnt want to fund new incentives that had been hurt. It took me from 1993 through 2000 until we passed a new market tax credit creating markets in places that were left out and left behind. Those are the people who are most antitrade. People that feel like they have been passed by, even though it might not be due to trade. I dont know what the canadian figures but the american figures, the biggest problem has to do with chinese trade in america mostly because after i left office, our agreements with china, they were very much, 900 billion worth of our debt a year and their bankers. But if we buy products in america made in china, on average it has 4 american components from mexico 40, canada 25. In other words, the more we integrate our economies the more likely we are to find mutual benefits. And what we all have to do, if we stopped trading tomorrow, automation and Artificial Intelligence are going to threaten more jobs. What we have to do is recognize if you are a rich country like china and america ironically we should be able to do much more manufacturing in the years ahead because labor costs will be a smaller percentage of the total and materials, energy, transportation to market will be a bigger percentage. Since our markets are big, relatively speaking, we do better and we should get more the number of jobs involved in making anything will go down because manufacturing is the most productive part of the economy. We need to think about how we are going to be five years from now and ten years from now and if i have to do it again i get the money up front, so the minute they knew jobs were leaving we would get with Something Else to do. That i regret. I think anybody who voted for a trade bill figured there would be winners and losers and have some help for losers and i was wrong about that. The net effect of nafta was positive. It was positive for economics and our political relations between ourselves and mexico. Between 20102014, in the last campaign you will find this hard to believe, there was 0 net in migration from mexico to the United States because they had their own economy and then president calderon of mexico started producing 100,000 engineers a year. Compared with america, three times its size, producing 120,000. We need to grow together. Started with us, canada and mexico. If the world goes to hell in terrorism and everything, we have to hold tight to each other. As far south as we can get. People who believe in freedom and democracy. And if the world gains good sense again and starts moving away from terror and oppression, toward more economic and political integration, then we need a base from which to fly. This is it. I think we did the right thing. In the last election at home people felt left out and left behind and nafta was a convenient target. That is what i think. [applause] it is true that it needs some work. It is an old thing, long in the tooth. A lot of issues are now dominant that we didnt deal with then. I cant believing that if the American Administration is willing to work in good faith with Prime Minister trudeau at negotiators and mexican negotiators we can find solutions. There are lots of things that could stand fixing in nafta. Look how much the economy has changed in 25 years. I hope we will have good negotiations. [applause] i can tell you in anecdote, perhaps i never told you. When i was sworn in i received a phone call from a texan named ross perot who said to me if you kill nafta, i will erect a big monument for you in texas. I said a big monument for me in texas is not very useful because none of them will be voting for me because you were against nafta, remember . He said nafta would create a giant sucking sound. As all the jobs disappeared. 23 million jobs later i kept listening. So i have the great experience of moving to canada when i was 3 months old. My father moved to montreal, i went through seventh grade, high school and toward rhonda so i feel i grew up in two solitudes in canada. In 1999, when we were ready to inaugurate a us embassy in ottawa which i built brick by brick, president clinton as i mentioned earlier had agreed against state Department Advice to come to ottawa to inaugurate that holding. At the time they said we have never done anywhere else and youre creating a precedent. His attitude was if not canada, where . Jean chretien reached out and asked if he would come to make a speech for the four month federalism taking place there. We worked out a schedule that permitted him to go there and he ended up being the concluding speaker. I must say he told me before i ever came to canada after i had been sworn in, the president had told me the United States didnt focus enough on the neighborhood and we were going to focus on the neighborhood so i knew from that minute forward about his knowledge and interest in canada. You invited him to come to quebec to make a speech on federalism. At the time, the question of quebec in canada was still quite active. There was a government in quebec at the time that was advocating separation. The president agreed to come. Under circumstances i got nervous about him a throw away the speech he was supposed to make that he decided he would talk from the heart and the brain and it turned out to be the most remarkable tour they force about the intellectual underpinnings for federalism and keeping the country together. It made me nervous but it worked perfectly. So Jean Chretien came to me after the speech and that i would like a copy of the speech and i said so would i. [laughter] ive never seen what he just said. So i want to ask you, why did you decide to invite him to come that i like to ask you why you decided to come what was in your thinking about being here and talking about that question. Because when we were together we were dealing with problems like the former yugoslavia and discussing the former government we thought the federation wellorganized can function well. And bill said to me when we were glad the referendum, we met in new york. Was the 50th anniversary of the u. N. , and asked me a question. How are you doing . I hear you are having problems. And you said to me there will be a a tragedy to a country like canada to be broken because you have very good recipe. How can you work between people of different language, different color, different religions, and having everybody equal . And to discredit his credit sod him a question about it that week, and he repeated that to theme media. Happy about that statement but i was happy. And i think it was useful. When he came he explained that if we are to divide according to the language, the color and religion there be three or 400 countries and it would not work. They understand that im in charge. [inaudible] he told me, he said Prime Minister of this Big International conference and i like to have important speakers to open up and close. I would like to have president of the United States and the president of mexico so, i managed with you to get him to come. I thought between you and i the golf game was a big part of it. They came and made the speech. After that i said i would like you to come and make a speech for this important conference and he said i cannot do that because to get out of mexico the permission of my parliament and i cannot asked permission to make a conference in canada. I said its too bad, and organized in such a way that if you were to come to make the speech, diana would be there to play piano for you because ive been in his house in mexico and i heard the music of diana and he loved diana so he asked permission. [laughter] and he was there with his wife and a few friends of their asking him what you want to hear, mr. President. So he delivered a good speech that i was not there, i cannot compare because i was not there for his. But i was there when diana was there. But the way that i did organize that, but the importance of that is the organize society. Im telling you, i said, as president of United States and mexico to come is an impossible request but i tried and i succeeded. [applause] when we are on the table at the g8 and so on the problem we have to double up with in canada states is that people can understand the color of the skin, the religion that you profess makes no difference in life. For every human being is inside and we have to accept these differences. Canada is a good example and you are in the United States. We have to insist about the quality of everybody. And, we have these debates at these moments. Some people are afraid that perhaps too many people are coming from the muslim faith for example. What is the difference they have a different religion or that you dress differently. It is human being that is important. If we can show to the world that we can live together and why the fighting between the sunni and the shiite, i dont know. Theyre fighting between protestant and catholic. I was the first to go to parliament, the first meeting they had together protestant and catholic was very tense. I said why the hell, you guys . [laughter] your all christian, but its just question of forget about the past and look at the future. The problem is were looking too often to the past and dont keep enough time to look at the future to look at the quality that is needed in the world. [applause] first of all, i agree with what he said. But this whole, every election in every society and a lot of our interactions theyll involve questions of identity. I was fascinated by the canadian issue of the quebec referendum for reasons that he mentioned i was trying to end the conflict in ireland in the middle i midde east and is trying to stop the killing in bosnia and kosovo later. I grew up in the American South which seceded from the union. At the civil war cinema protestant to 25 of all the soldiers in American History is come from but they are also disproportionately they live in small towns likely to support the Current Administration their policies. So, the chicken building a diverse world is to convince people they can keep whats special about their identity without denying the fundamental humanity of others. And all devices are designed to set up a system in which people can naturally evolve to greater levels of Cooperation Without giving up their identity. Thats why this recent violence in spain with the catalonians the so sad. But all the problems they had the catalonia referendum but you see it all over the world. We had a great presentation when you do this conference from nigeria because i asked a third of the country is muslim and a third is urban christian and a third is in the middle so this identity thing will be with us for a long time. The most dangerous this too presented in a way that dehumanizes the other the next like in order for you to win in life, somebody has to lose. Because in an interdependent world you should be searching for winwin negotiations. If you have a Football Game for about strength world series the soccer match, there win lose in order for someone to win somebody has to lose. But society based on cooperation and competition t and that is the great test. If youta get to tribal which is where i think we are much of the world today, they were abused by military dictatorship for decades and now the buddhist majority is running the rain of muslims back to bangladesh. These things are going on all over the world. I only count if there somebody somewhere that i can look down on, present, and push around and divide myself from your do we need secure borders . Yes. Yes would you check our borders if you thought there is a terrorist criminal, yes. You helped us checkers without there is a terrorist, and overwhelm celebrated the linnaean. Real naive and suddenly lance, no. But on balance it means something that genetically we are 99 and half the same. Therefore it is stupid there is a 99 and half of our time thinking about the half of our self that is different. [applause] by the way, thats not just a political statement. If your man, how many times have you thought Something Like wildfire were 7 feet tall i couldve been a great basketball player. I dont know how my times i said to myself if i had a body like lebron james i wouldve gone into a different line of work. The whole deal between me and him and hes unbelievable. Everything you can see about him is in half of our genome. Its a stupid way to run a railroad and an interdependent world. Thats the bottom line. Thats why thought he did a great thing having that federalism conference. I think the people of canada denigrating the people of quebec did a great thing deciding to stand. [applause] i was in toronto yesterday, but this summer my family and i had a Family Vacation in eastern quebec. Louise took us to the site of five of her murders in her book. I too have come to canada because of diana crowl and sarah mclachlan. Then today went to a bookstore and bought a book in honor of his passing with all of the lyrics to Leonard Cohen songs. [applause] is a special place. Everybodys looking to because they think youre the grownups in the house all of a sudden. Not because theres no difference for me being from alberta or canada but because he found a way to get the poster best of both worlds to treasure your differences. To include more diversity without looking in the mirror and screaming, i do not exist anymore because while this diversity. The major question facing the world today. People would do well to look at what he did and you did this referendum 20 years ago. [applause] hell never do anything about economic inequality or overcome the underlying problems are terror and we wont have enough unity unless first we conquer zero some travel listen. The, i am who i am and im proud of it but i dont think that we are always right. I love being in a world where most people are younger than me and were every time i go to a meeting its not just all grayhaired white guys in suits. Diverse groups make better decisions. We need to get over it. Maybe not you can see why you rely on the speech i gave him about federalism. He does pretty well on his own. I will point out that one of us appear doesnt have gray hair. [laughter] when he said we need to keep looking towards the future have to say for some reason thing that kept playing in my head was the 1992 campaign some for clinton for president was, dont stop thinking about tomorrow. I musketeer area its all about the future. So, i wanted to ask a question in her system produces a different result that intrigues me. In the United States we have an informal thing called the president s club. Theres a pretty good book written on the subject. Were former president s, whether out of office, even if they were opponents become quite close, there is a bond for having served in that office. Not only do they become friends but they begin to Work Together on philanthropic projects together. Jimmy carter and gerald ford ran against each other and became dear friends. President clinton ran against George Hw Bush and in recent years, because of how close they have become referred to president clinton as george bushes son by another mother, the other day i was watching the president s cup Golf Tournament and there was barack obama, george w. Bush and bill clinton is like theyre going to a High School Reunion together. I wont ask whether the current incumbent will be invited to join, but i would like to hear your view of that relationship. My observation is that that kind of chemistry among former Prime Ministers isnt the same. You dont hang out together or go to golf matches together, is it because the difference in our systems . Why is that bond different. Because im the only one playing golf. [laughter] the reality is we dont have this culture in canada. Probably because of the party system. The party system is stronger in canada than United States. I said sometimes the democrats of the cell is to the right of the republican of the north. You dont have the same institution as political parties. For me we Work Together and having common for many years. But i talk with him once in a while, i dont meet him because he does not come but we dont have this tradition of being together to do Something Like when there is a disaster. Its kind of sad that it does not exist. Perhaps this should i never knew there is friendship of that kind between the predecessor of mine, we never heard their gathering together to do good things. Thats probably a problem of culture, we dont do that because theres no occasion to do that. There were not requested very often to do that. So we dont appear together the same way as the president of the United States, and somewhat i deplore that. I saw john major yesterday in toronto. Is coming over here tomorrow and he reminded me they did not have much of this tradition either in the u. K. But he and tony blair went together to Northern Ireland know blair is a good friend of ours we did a lot together and i think he was underrated got too little credit for having the courage to risk his job to start the irish peace process. So they went together to convince the people to vote against brexit because they said if it passes it will put the piece at risk because then you dont have a borderless situation going back in the Northern Irish one have dutyfree access to the European Market were trying to lift you up and he was reminded me that he and blair did this. I think they both enjoyed it and i said its not like we all live together and play golf once a week. I am unusually close to the first president bush and ive become friends with his son partly because the respect you to vote for hillary when she was a democrat serving on the Armed Services committee and often disagreeing with her. We just started talking together. I think we have to do is find something to do when second president bush asked me to work on the tsunami 12 years ago than on katrina than president obama as second president bush and i to work on haiti after the earthquake and i was already there for the you and so we worked together for a couple of years so i stayed on. I like haiti, it kinda drives to stark raving mad but you cant put it down once you pick it up. The most abused and neglected country that is engaged in self views, but they are magnificent. I keep hoping and praying that someday theyll have a government assistance they deserve. Because their talents are immense. [applause] in other words, we have a reason to do something together. Then if youre working on a synonymy its a long way from america youre on a long flight and get to know somebody. All of a sudden you remember what it was like before you ran against thats what you have to do. Personal contact. Telling the we have got to reestablish examples of trust in the world among people have honest disagreements. If you dont get trust back, the system will not work. Theres large numbers of people who benefit economically from its good for the media its much easier to get bad news into an 82nd sound bite than good news. Good for everybody, except you, the people in a larger sense and our children and grandchildren and greatgrandchildren. If you call me tomorrow and said i know this is crazy but i need you to go to your bank account and get a hundred thousand dollars penalty next week what its about, i would do it. Because i trust him. Because i think hes a good person because somehow you emerge from being 18 and 19 a become a unique and remarkable person. Dont you all have somebody you know that you feel that way about . We need to get to where we feel about more people that way. This identity politics is going to talk us for a long time. Were being thrown together at a pace in ways that we have never been thrown together in all of human history. Hes right, think about the future and see people as people. Those are the two keys. [applause] i could do this all night. Im having about as much fun as i can have i think sandys gentleman together this evening gives you a sense of what a delightful opportunity is given in life to work with the two of them and be a fly on the wall as they Work Together. I wouldve done it for free, and in the american system meal almost for free. I will go on all night. As president clinton would say when you come visit he said this is not bad for public housing. If it werent for the clock Police Standing back here that are telling me to shut up i would keep going. He would join me thinking these two remarkable gentlemen. [applause] [applause] coming up this morning, Consumer Protection watchdogs briefed members of the Senate Banking committee on Data Security at the nations credit bureaus. This is part of the committees ongoing look into the equifax data breach that affected more than 145 million consumers. Live coverage at 10 a. M. Eastern on cspan. Also at ten representatives of the Prescription Drug industry testify before the senate h. E. L. P. Committee they are looking at the causes of rising Prescription Drug costs. Thats live on cspan3. What events live online cspan. Org cspan. Org and on the free cspan radio app. Its always been identified as slavery. Believe me, no soldier on either side gave a damn about slaves. They were fighting or other reasons entirely in their minds. Southerners thought they were fighting the second american revolution. Northerners thought they were fighting to hold the union together and that held true throughout the whole war. Except for some people who were absolute participles side. For the past 30 years the Video Library is your free resource for politics, congress and washington public affairs. Whether it happened 30 years ago or 30 minutes ago, find it in cspans Video Library at cspan. Org. Cspan, where history unfolds daily. A look at Voting Rights in redistricting. We are from former federal Election Commission chair trevor potter, Democratic Political consultant bob shrum, and leslee sherrill, former Vice President of abc news. The university of Southern California institute of politics hosted this event in los angeles. First let me introduce our panelists, ralph neas, hes run dozens of National Campaigns with bipartisan majorities to strengthen and protect civil rights laws during the reagan and bush presidencies, has been very active since then and is been a friend of mine for about 37 years. Lesleeee sherrill is on presidet of abcgh news, a fellow of the Unruh Institute of politics and is working on a nonpartisan initiative, the democracy project, which focus on Electoral Reform with ralph. She formerly worked as a white

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