[applause] it afternoon. Everyones well fed, i hope. Joining us at lunch today is philip carter, senior fellow and director of military veterans and the Society Program at the center for a new american security. His research focuses on issues that face veterans and military personnel, force structure and readiness issues and several military relations. His most recentat article, what america owes its veterans is published in this Current Issue of Foreign Affairs magazine. Serving in iraq from 2005 until 2006 as an advisor to the state Department Reconstruction team, mr. Carter then returned home to increasing involvement in veterans and national affairs. As a civilian he worked in the private sector as a business advisor and he is currently teaching as anan adjunct professor of law at georgetown university. Today he is with us as a moderator and friend of our keynote speaker. So while mr. Carter makes his way to the stage, it is my pleasure to introduce the captain. [applause] never a bad thing to be born in paris. In 2001, a naturalized american citizen, after which he. [inaudible] joined the army in 2008 and was twice the play to afghanistan. It was during his second deployment that they tackled a suspicious local man making his way toward one of the patrols, setting off the man suicide vest. Four died but many were spared as a result of his swift action. Captain grover spent three years in recovery. His book, eight seconds of courage which will be available after l lunch recounts his early life and friends, his tough Army Ranger Training and the courage it brought him to take the brave action that saved those many lives. How can we think a man whose own sense of responsibility inspired him to take that action. Perhaps president obama have the right idea when, in 2015 and on veterans day he awarded our nations highest military honor the congressional medal of honor to captain grover, the first immigrant to be so recognized since the vietnam war. Please join me. [applause] wonderful. Many congratulations to you. Thank you for being here with us. Its a real honor and privilege to be here with you. One of the things i took away from your book, which i had the chance to read this week, was despite metal, despite your incredible bravery, youre also pretty humble, downtoearth guy. Ttheres one story that crystallizes that and maybe you can tell everyone about that day that you fell into the sewage. While. My first tour in the afghanistan and we had this incredible great idea to create, to pass out these cards, there like business cards to the local afghan in different villages and the point was, if you saw the taliban or if they came into your village, just call the number on the back of it and let us know. About 75 or some of them couldnt even read so that was a problem. The best part about this in hindsight is that we put our translators phone numbers, so what happened as the locals figure if we appear to be helping the americans we just call them and tell them the taliban here and they commonly think were friends and they will give us fuel and the build is a retaining wall and a mosque. They called us one night and said hey, taliban is here so we took off to that village. To make a long story short, the taliban was never there. What happened was that it was pitch black dark and im over here knocking on doors tried to figure out where the money is and people open the door mad at us because its the middle of the night. The next night i fall into sewage. Some of you are eating so we will go pg and, it was one of those things that we flush the toilet and they just dump it in there and thats where i fell in all the way up to my chest. I remember not realizing what i was in and then smelling it and then seeing my guys im asking for help and there like no sitter, you are on your own. Your walking back. It was serious. It was a tougher fight to get my guys back on the truck that was to fight the taliban. Im sorry, sometimes we had good ideas. That was not one. Thank you. You have an unusual story of all the Army Officers i know, your story of how you came to be army is unique. Its really striking. Tell us how you came to be an army officer. Why did you join. When i came to the United States has about 12 years old. I didnt speak english. I was adopted by a great man, my father and we came here and moved to bethesda maryland when i was in high school. When i was 13yearold, my uncle who lived in algeria they tried to take over the government with radical islam in that part of the world and it was a really westernized muslim country. My uncle who thought this was wrong and did not represent what he was teaching and like many other algerians, he put on the uniform and fought these individuals. He was shot and beheaded and dismembered and put in a box and sent back to my grandfather. That was a testament of the evil happening in the world that no one was really paying attention too. I kind of compare what happened then to whats happening around the world now. We see boko haram killing 300 people and we see it on the news and we say this is horrible and we move on to the kardashians. Its just culture, in a sense, but if it happens at home its on cnn and fox news for the next 17 days. Thats the thing that really bothered me as a young child that so much evil could be happening over there and nobodys talking about it but i remember it. I was a freshman in college at 911 and they killed my uncle, attach my family and now here i am a naturalized citizen of this country and as soon as i get naturalized the same type of individuals come in and create terror to my new adopted country. My only solution was to be part of the solution. You dont get to choose the army, you choose the hardest l. Rt of the armyy and within that you chose the hardest part of that and you go through Ranger School. What were some of the formative experiences in the army . You write about your time and training in combat. What made you into the person that was there on august 8, 2012. Accommodation of all the sequential actions of my life. You have to look at my mother my father my family and my peers and mymy coaches and my Time Training in the military and so on. The training that i received as a platoon leader and the men who surrounded me. These experiences and actions allowed me too make the decision in 2012 which i believe the majority of my peers wouldve made as well. You talk about training in the army, i wrote my first chapter about one of the most significant expenses of my life which was Ranger School. I kept hearing about Ranger School months and months prior to going through Ranger School when i chose infantry as a path of my military career. I never realized what wasnt i got there. For those who havent been through that, what is the ranger story. 62 days of training and youre out there in three different phases and two meals a day, maybe, you sleep on average a couple hours a night coming your caring a sack that weighed approximately hundred pounds and youre going over 250 miles in the course of 52 days over some really severe terrain between georgia and florida and while having the responsibility to lead men on Certain Missions and then follow, it was tough. We were death marched for 23 hours. You just keep marching up and down. I thought i lost the equipment but i didnt los loser, i was dragging it but thats howard exhausted you are. It changed my life. They called ranger training leadership school. They want to physically make sure you have the stamina to uphold and succeed, but its about what will you do when youre hungry, youre starving, literally, and youre dead tire tired. You havent slept more than five hours and three days. Your caring all this weight and youre supposed to lead men and decisive action, what do you do. They also watch youtube. When youre not in leadership, what you do . Your far away from everyone else, are you gonna pull security . And have integrity or are you going to go to sleep question that these are Little Things you learn. I learned a lot about myself. First of all, if i have to choose between eating and sleeping, i. E. I had no idea, i wouldve day everyeep all day. When they give me that choice, you can sleep or you can, i ate. I was hungry. I also learned a lot about myself. Some of the faults i had and i needed to change to be an effective leader. I also learned the realityat betwee behind utilizing every single asset in your platoon which means every single individual and understanding their weaknesses and the strengths and combining those strengths while eliminating the weaknesses as best you can to be an effective leader. Lets go to afghanistan in 2012. What was your job during your second appointment. The second appointment i was running security detail and what he owned was 45. [inaudible] in the Eastern Province of afghanistan. He had five provinces total and he was the man. It was unbelievable to her. For six months, every single day i got to ride in helicopters and see some of the most pitiful parts of afghanistan and meet powerful and incredible folks. Most importantly i got to see afghanistan from a completely different perspective than my first tour. Whatever the boss to me too do, i did. This to her, i was providing security and i got to see generals and did the best i could. See her in this eastern part of afghanistan, incredibly rugged country, mountains as tall as anywhere in the world and you wanted to accompany the boss for a meeting and take it from amthere. This was one of those meetings. This was my first tour. Every wednesday at 10 00 a. M. , the governor of east afghanistan wanted to run the security meeting for 30 minutes. Obviously i wasnt in a take the fall for that meeting. He didnt want to go. He made his own schedule, i advised him on it, he didnt want to go every week because then we become a threat and we become a target. In 2012, we have been gone for quite a few weeks and they had a previous meeting with all his leaders and the next day we decided to fly out to the security meeting on some of the topics the night prior. They wanted to address those with the governor. We got there and i was supposed to have 12 or 15 escorts. Unfortunately, the unit that was supposed to receive us decided they would call about 15 minutes prior. It made the route unclear again. So i had to brigade t commander. [inaudible] two majors and then my team of six including myself. The enemy that summer had one motto which was to do something big. For that you have have a lot ng patience. You have truly pick your target accordingly when they saw us coming with that much brass they probably thought this is christmas in july, in august and they committed. They had two bombers ready to take us out so that day, as we were 700 meters into an 1100meter movement, they came at us with motorcycles in front of our patrol. I had actually put the Afghan National army up front. I was be honest with you, i do not trust them at the time to be behind us because we had too many green on blues happening out there and i didnt know the skipper folks. I fought with some incredible Afghan Soldiers but i didnt know these guys. I put them up front and i wanted them to make our patrol appear bigger, to deter any potential threatd. They did a heckuva job because when the motorcycles came toward our patrol, the point guy, the afghan soldier started screaming which forced the motorcycle folks to dismount and start running away but that was the whole point. That was what they wanted. At that point a man came out the structure, young, maybe 20 years old, cleanshaven and walking backwards. Then it. Obviously this guy was a threat and didnt know what the heck is wrong with them and where did he come from and he did a 180degree turn and another 90degree turn and edlead my position and screamed at him, reached him, hit him, grabbed him and realized she had a suicide vest on. Do whatever you can do at that point which is thrown as far away as possible. So, you dont think about that, you just think about doing your job. So i threw him my goal, going back from the deployment was to go to the best ranger competition which youve got to be pretty darn good and fit to do so. Some of the best of best do it and i was trying to compete. I was lifting a lot and working out a lot. I looked good. Guess what. When i throw him, he landed right in my street which made me think maybe i wasnt lifting enough because he went nowhere. Or he was a a little big. He was not big. To be honest, i was bigger than him. He went straight down my feet which in hindsight, i can look back like man come on you couldve done a little bit better. He landed chest first and then he detonated. N so he came in and committed. The matter what that man was going to die that day. So when he hit the ground he let go and sought, his hand and everything went black. You lost four of your comrades that day whose names are inscribed on a bracelet on your wrist. You were wounded as well. I think a number of your comrades were as well. Wake up intermittently and you wake up and who is there, not a soldier. I was just texting one of them yesterday. Most importantly, i lost four incredible americans and four great friends. For individuals that i would do everything in the world bring back. Major gray, major kennedy and state Department Number one these men were nowhere near the bomb and for some odd reason and the rule of law and p they were picked and left our world which i am a Firm Believer there out there looking over us in looking over me and making sure they are protecting me and protecting our families, but thats the craziest part about this whole story. The guy blew up by myy feet and killed four others who were almost 30 feet away. That does make sense but it is the way it is. My injuries were there but i woke up and i was also on some drugs at that point. Im pretty sure i was pressing every 15 minutes and i see this figure in front of me. I was like laying down and i look up and its got Hair Everywhere and hes talking to me and hes like a man, so proud to meet you, your hero, im looking at this kind of thinking are you the guy from corn, the rock band from the 90s and early 2000s. Are you Jonathan Davis . Is ikea man i like why are you here, where am i. That was one of the coolest experiences. Jonathan davis was actually goingg through a u. S. Tour at the time so he was out there visiting the troops at a hospital where, if you got hit in afghanistan, that is your first stop outside the country before you go home. He was out there supporting us and i thought i was hallucinating. I was figuringik ive got some really heavy drugs because i must be dreaming about corporate my goodness. I havent listened to cornyn while at that point. Small world. Im telling you. Him and i we were just ittexting. Literally just texting with him because he wants to do another uso to her and im going with general dunford back to iraq and afghanistan to other areas. Its been awesome. So you go from being a ranger to compete in best ranger and youre pretty banged up and youve got a journey ahead. What is that like and what are the hardest parts of that . Im impressed when i meet wounded veterans and the great theyve got, the perseverance to keeput going, tell us about that journey. Ill be honest with you. It wasnt easy at first. I have pretty severe. Oncussion, i call it a damn good mild concussion because i can rememberik there were these pictures of giraffes and lions in the give you math equations , tough math equations like how many quarters in a dollar,ha grigh right. [laughter] id look at him and i said i was never really good at math but i have no idea what to do now. You got me. Is this an sat question . Do like no part whats one plus one. Thats a tough one writer. My brain wasnt working. I can look at the graph and i knew what it was. I knew it was internally but i just dont know what it is. For six weeks it was pretty severe so that was tough. Then you add axes and morphine and benadryl for me too go to sleep at night and then you close the door and you turn the lights off and my demons inside my head were playing a lot of games and they have a hell of a cocktails to support their mission. For months i was really struggling to the point where you contemplate suicide is because really youre so internally defeated, you have no reason to go on. Its incredible how you can fill that low. Its beyond depression. When i about the 20 veterans who take their livesrf everyday, that is very powerful thats why i wear this ring as a reminder that people have to question why, how . No taliban, no al qaeda no chechnya and, no enemy has ever been as strong as the enemies in my own head. Think about that. I had the best of the best on my head. Had the best support system, or so i thought, when i was fighting those demons at night and its incredible what they can do. I completely underestimated it. I had friends who took my their life and i could not understand. They had everything going for them, and here i am in the same votehtmnd. That was tough. Honestly i dont think i wouldve made it if it were not for the support i received, especially travis mill. If you remember anything, remember the name travis hell. I was like to sam going to make him a superstar but hes been doing that for a long time. Hes a quadruple amputee. I got hit in april 2012 and in november 2012 he walked through my room with four prosthetics and change the course of my life in 15 minutes but he was able to rewire me in a way that i didnt think was possible by listening to me and giving me some advice, and also giving me a reality check. I think thats what i needed, for me. Everybodys different. Everybody has a trigger. For me it was reality check y w wasnt a failure because i had four People Killed on my watch and i still had a purpose and omission. I couldnt get that through my own head until he came in and told me open up your eyes, stop being weak y, youve got to be humble and see whats around you. There are guys that have a lot worse injuries and you, but i know its a personal but you have a responsibility for the rest your life to earn the fact that youre still on this earth and honor your brother shooting come home and honor their families. Ot you go to questions in a minute. I want to ask one last question before we do. Now, with the boeing companyin and youre helping serve veterans in honoring those just the way you described, tell us about what youre doing nowow t and why thats so important to you. I made three decisions in my life. Three great decisions. So i say. The first one is joining the army. Thats the best decision i ever made as young man. I want to serve my country and i wanted to go out there and avenge my uncle and i came out with a completely different respect and i came out with love. Thats what i came up with out of the service but i went in with hate and anger and i took that away early on because i realized i would be killed and most importantly get other People Killed. I fought with love. The love of brotherhood and sisterhood and thatss the greatest thing you can ever do in combat. When all hell breaks loose, trust me, even if youre nonbeliever, trust me, you believe in god, fact. I have met some atheist, and man, when things go wrong, there over here prayingay. They dont know who their praying to, but they are praying. There like whoever youhe are, male, female, i dont care, please help. And really, as each other, licking each other in the eyes. To me, that experience, i wish i couldve been in the military longer and done career, but it is what it is. Im grateful for the opportunity even to have served a day in our military. The second one is joined the boring company. T joined the boeing company. What a blessing. I didnt know what they did. I didnt like jumping out of airplanes even though they may me do so and i was always scared in an airplane and here i am now working for the number one Aerospace Company in the world and when i came here, seeing the culture,in leadership and the people, just reminded me that military is a brotherhood. Its unbelievable how a company of 140,000 people can be so close and have such a great impact and then when they told me they wanted to amplify my mission which is to go out there and give back and serve our veteran community that they were going to give me the funding, the people, the resources to go out there and make a difference every sunday with our team to change lives, we went in there. It was unbelievable. Our ceo just announces and we gave. We are giving 50 million in grants this year to support our community. To to support our veteran community, our stem activities , our environment, our arts and our civic duties. The course of the next three years we 25 million for just our veterans. But whats important is the t fact that its not about giving money. Everybody can do that. Bill gates can give a billion dollars every other day and still be a billionaire. Its about actually having, empowering your employees to go out there make a difference. We are committing 1. 75 million hours for Service Organizations in the course of the next five years. That is our employees going out in the community and serving our community with different organizations. You add the funding, which is absolutely necessary for these organizations to succeed but you bring in the expertise and any time you bring in the employees to go out there and be handson, thats how you make a difference. Just yesterday a great conversation and i told him, i said you are my success. We cannot accomplish what we want to do in the boeing company with our own employees without our own employees heading this mission. We are going to impact 200,000 or 250,000 transitioning members every year to give them the right opportunity and tools to help them prepare so the day they transition they are ready. They know where they can live, they understand all the medical services and they have a career in front of them and theyre ready to start off and thats how you save lives. That is how you take that number and bring it down to zero, hopefully. Thats my ultimate goal to bring this to zero because you get people an opportunity to succee succeed, you take care of them with their Mental Health issues or physical hyissues and you do not give them a handout. To give them a hand up. Im pretty sure we can take care of ourselves once were given the opportunity to do so, but we cant do it alone. And the third decision im guessing is carson. And your benefit. Absolutely. One year from today, im going to be married to my best friend. So to me, that is the greatest thing i could ever ask for. So we have time for question questions, im not sure the protocol if you want to use the microphone. As an american american, i want to thank you for your service and inspiring our veterans. Algerian to algerian, i want to thank you to your service print ive lost family as well. I also want to ask you about the pharmaceutical addiction. Do you have any comments or concerns because i hear often it is after theyve been prescribed that the addiction starts. I am not a physician or doctor, i dont know anything about that kind of stuff but i can tell you this is real. Its scary. I never understood anything about addiction until i became addicted. It was a horrible drug. I can go to bed without it. It was unbelievable. Got to the point where, at night, i would go to my computer and i would google how to buy the iv benadryl bags which is not legal. I found that out. My nurse kept telling me cant do this, this is illegal. I was so addicted to it that i told the doctors and the doctors help me get through it. With the multiple surgeries, they obviously putut no iv benadryl on my chart to go through a little withdrawal but they had some other stuff. Youre absolutely right. I think the most important piece is that i just listened to the Army Leadership talking about this and its an epidemic we need to stop. I had probably 600 pills of morphine in my drawer at home. Its on us, the responsibility, once were done , once we get a certain amount of pills, if we dont use them we have to bring them back to the pharmacy. You think a Wounded Warriors going to do that . Know because i dont know when the pain is comic again, i figured you gave me the pills, im in the pop a pill whenever the pain comes back. I was lucky but im one of the lucky few. Im actually allergic to morphine and oxley. It makes me itching go crazy. I was off those powerful medications after a month or two. The first month or two i had no choice. They were reconstructing my leg and that was it. I saw a lot of my friends struggle with it. Thats something i know the va, military, theyre looking at it. Theyre doing everything theyy can in their power to make sure they come up with a great solution. Unfortunately, we will still have to provide some tough medication, some strong medication to our Wounded Warriors but we have to be more responsible about it on both sides. Lets go to the other mike from. Im brian from kentucky and southern indiana. The fellow wounded warrior, fell in infantrymen, i wanted to see if you could comment on the life and schedule of the medal of honor recipient as well as ask if youve been to the Kentucky Derby and if you would consider that. I would one 100 goin consider going to the Kentucky Derby. I will wear my cool suit and the outfit too. Absolutely. Ive been to preakness too often but the Kentucky Derby tharobably something else. Medal of honor life, it is what you make it. Honestly. I know i have folks i am in a society with who are fellow recipients who do nothing because that is their right. There went through whatever they went through and they dont want togh be associated with anything. I know other folks who are pvery political. My daytoday schedule really depends on what im doing with the company. Im lucky enough that i work for a company that supports me and supports foundation. Ntheyre the number one funder ofri the organizations that makes sense for them to allow me to support the program. I think the metal represents my friends didnt come home, whats important to their family and every service ndmember who ever put on the uniform and it represents all of us. This is not meant mine. Im just a courier. I have a responsibility in a roll to make sure i on it every day and i do some good behind it because it has given me a platform to support our military and supporter nation to the best of my ability. I would say between the Character Development program that we have with the foundation to the different events, probably a week or two combined traveling so maybe 15 or 20 days a year but believe it or not i am on the road every week a minimum two or three days so it just fits in. At the glove. What im doing supports the metal, sports a military and supports the blowing company. I have the greatest job in the world but i literally have the greatest job which is to give back and be part of a greater solution to make some positive change in peoples lives. Yes, sir. Colorado springs, i hesitate say thank you for your service because thats become such o a trite thing that 99 says to the 1 but i want to thank you for the service youve done since afghanistan because you were really are wonderful role model to a lot l of people. Pr quick question. There is a growing homeless problem here and a lot of veterans and a lot of army and military presence but this is not just a local problem, this is a national problem. Through your foundation and work that you allio do, any insight on how we deal with homelessness, especially with veterans which seems to be the biggest adjustment. First of all, a pleasure sir, i still on a house in the area because i was stationed out there and homelessness has been an incredible problem for our country. At 1. 11 of all homeless folks were veterans and lesson 1 served so modestly theres an issue in regard to Mental Health and opportunities there and what were trying to do is support the organizations within our communities to make sure that between theha housing meals and supporting opportunities for these folks to get housing meals and an opportunity for a job. Its hard to just focus on veterans because we are committed to our community, we do emphasize to every group that we support that we want to make sure we also target veterans. We know this. A large portion of folks were going through our program are veterans. We are really trying to figure out a way to support the va. I think the va has this initiative of going out there in our communities and partnering up with the local government to make sure that we make a difference. Rei dont know how they do it, but they claim it so they are at 0 , they are homeless free in virginia. I dont really know what that truly means because to me if i see one person thats homeless , i consider that one too many, but reality is that we have to go out there and put our employee engagement, in terms of supporting the community through these great organizations who know that. The data come you think you have all the answers and the oidata. [inaudible] thats what im seeing specifically in the nonprofit sector. Too Many Organizations are competing for the same dollar. What i want to create and myan company is called the boeing umbrella. I will not give you a dollar. I dont care how good your organizations print i will not give you a dollar or recommend to give you a dollar unless you are ready to cooperate with other organizations within our e community. Unless you are ready to share information or unless youre ready to share success and failures. It is the only way we do it. My goodness, we get a lot of money to pass out. Not just us but im talking about different corporate organizations in different programs, but if you start competing against each other and you forget the end state which is to support the specific person or initiative than our dollars go nowhere and no impact is being made. Homelessness has been around since forever. Its gonna be very difficult for us to end it completely. Ill be honest with you. This is my own personal opinion. There are folks who want to be homeless. Ive had conversation with them. They love their live now. Its simple, they know where to go, they know where to get a meal, they do a good job of feeding the homeless and theyyel are comfortable with it. Thats very hard to help a t. Person that that is the lifestyle they want but we know there are many and thousands of Homeless Veterans who want an opportunity to get back on their feet and be a functioning member of society. We are working on it. It will be a fight. Users to i am with the World Affairs council in western massachusetts. Im just wondering if you can qualify for us that quantify for us the extent of the veterans and people who arent veterans as well who need Services Like you are providing. You mentioned some big dollars and said there are thousands of homeless, but you have a sense from your work at your company what is the scope of this problem in america . It depends what you define as soft. We work on providing Skill Development and the programming for our folks were transitioning out of theo military or already have transitioned to really put in their expenses on paper and speak their expenses and sell themselves and start a new career. We dont want them to just get jobs. [inaudible] the problem is our retention rates are really, really bad. Ge on average. About nine months and were all gone after our first job once we have transitioned print thats because we just dont know what to get ourselves into. Its because were potentially illprepared as we transition with understanding the reality behind life as a civilian or in Corporate America or in the educational field. P we are trying to help that program right here and support those initiativesd, and thats 250,000 Service Members that transition every year. That is every year. You add that number, every single one of those folks is going to need some type of support. I dont care if your fourstar general or if you are in e1 private. Actually, its kind of funny to talk to generals because the generals have been there doing this for so long that g at they just on what theyre gonna do after the spread dont race or, there, come after, i just dont know what im gonna doing get myself into. My favorite person, soldier for life, the sky change the course of the armys way of looking at transition. When i was talking to him it was like whats going on man, where he gone. Hed say i dont know. And id say, on, weve been having these conversations nonstop but he ended up doing some thing great. Even him, he needed that support. He needed to make phone calls and connect with Service Organizations externally to provide him with a better clear path on where he can be to continue to make a difference that will actually be a passion of his. You can attest to that too. Its a number that will grow, its a number thats never going to be, its never going to end because thats just life. Thats not just veterans, thats just everyone that transitions from the career field for rob sleep focused on the better inside right now. Tnr i want to thank you for your service, for your leadership of our generation and also for sharing your insight here. Thank you very much. [applause] ,. Here is a look at some of the current bestselling Fiction Books according to the Washington Post. Topping the list is bestselling biographer Walter Isaacsons re of the life of leonardo. Also let trump be trump. Then, Country Music singer garth brooks recalls the first five years of his career in this book. And then the life of president Ulysses S Grant followed by fox news host history of the war of 1812, battle of new orleans. 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