Nothing to do with you guys, its just the end of the semester. Weve got some very special guests here today. First i want to mention theres an article that i tweeted out last night that really compliments you as a student body. Its from the virginia business magazine, and its, its about how liberty, about how you as students have gone the extra mile to serve others and to fulfill the Christian Mission of the school. I really think youll enjoy it if you take time to read it. Its by heather hayes, a local report here who wrote for that magazine. So if you get a chance, take a look at that. Youll be proud of yourselves. First of all, steve strang is here, founder of charisma magazine. Hes an awardwinning journalist, entrepreneur, businessman and author. Hes, his newest book is god and donald trump. Steve is charisma magazine, ive always heard, has a bigger circulation than christianity today. I believe thats still true, and hes just doing incredible work in the christian world in so many ways. Thank you for being here, steve. And also we have corey lewandowski. He was, hes a political operative, a commentator for one america news network, fox news, cnn. He and i became good friends last year during the campaign because he was the former Campaign Manager for Donald Trumps 2016 president ial campaign. Hes coauthor of the book let trump be trump, because anybody thats ever been around him knows if you dont let him be him, youre going to get kicked out. So i think thats a good title. David bossies also here. David and corey have been on news shows all week, fox and other networks, talking about their book. But david has served as president of Citizens United since 2001, as deputy Campaign Manager for trumps 2016 campaign. He was ranked number two in politicos top 50 most influential people in american politics. Hes coauthor of the book i just mentioned, let trump be trump. David has produced 25 documentaries since 2004 and coproduced six featurelength films. And so were going to please welcome all three of our guests to liberty university, steve, corey and david. [applause] we know youve got exams coming out, so well try to get you out early today. [cheers and applause] [laughter] all right. Robert, is this the second convo that you done with center for law and government . This is the second convocation. Robert heads center for law and government. Hes a former congressman from southern virginia. He only stayed in, what, six years . Four years. I wish theyd always get out after anyhow, robert, where do you want me to sit . Told me to sit here. Yes, sir. [inaudible conversations] all right. Ill let you guys lead off and just tell us, steve, start with you. Tell us what youve, what youve been doing with charisma magazine and what tell us about the new book and just anything youd like to share. Well, charisma magazine is the spiritual magazine that i, we devoted our entire october issue to donald trump. And we publish articles from christian prophets, modern day prophets who predicted hed win against all odds, and he did. And that led, one thing to another, until i wrote this book because i thought it was important to talk about the spiritual aspect of whats going on, not just the politics. Well, you supported cruz first, right . Boo. [laughter] ive had so many, so many christians come up to me and tell me recently i supported cruz, i thought you were crazy when you supported trump, but you turned out to be right. You were right. And things like david Like Supreme Court justice gorsuch, and you see trump recognizing jerusalem as the capital of israel, which many president s have promised to do [applause] many president s have promised to do but never had the guts or the integrity to follow through. You know, i you have to, you have to mike evans, who is a big supporter on that issue, is calling trump the modern day equivalent of king cyrus from the old testament. You want to comment on that . Well, i agree with that. In fact, for me that was kind of what made me vote for trump, because, you know, hes not the kind of person that evangelicals would normally look, you know, someone more like mike luck bee that huckabee thats more my speed. But a friend of mine believed that god was raising him up like cyrus. And the bible says in isaiah 45, i have called you even though you did not know me. And it was like, you know, the people in the bible were not perfect at all, but yet god used them, and he used a pagan king from persia to send his people back to jerusalem. And so many recent republican leaders, president s and otherwise, have made, like jesus said, may clean the outside of the platter but inside are ravenous wolves. [laughter] i keep going back to that passage youre absolutely right. And they seem like theyre good, decent people, good family people, but when it comes down to look how they acted when trump won. I mean, theyve been trying to sabotage him ever since, and they just dont act anything but christian. You know, the amazing thing is he has championed the values that you and i would and most of these students would believe in better than people that had better credentials like george w. Bush, who is a good man, but he just didnt come through on a lot of stuff. Trump is coming through again and again and again, and i believe that gradually people who dont like him are going to come over thats why i think when it comes to politics, jesus separated. He said render unto caesar the things i always say that, i know. [laughter] [applause] but you cant judge somebody according to how good they are and decide on who youre going to vote for based on that, because were all sinners. And jesus said if you ever lusted after a man after a woman in your heart, then youre just as guilty as the guy whos had adultery. So theyre all the same. You vote for the one whos going to vote the way you think is best for your country, and i think thats what evangelicals did. Youre absolutely right. Theres so much hypocrisy of where people who have things in their own past will point their finger at someone else only difference is they never got caught. Thats right. [laughter] as christians, we believe in redemption, that people can change. And in my book i document about ten years ago, something happened in Donald Trumps life. He started cleaning up his act, he started thinking about the future, and i believe hes a very different kind of man than some of the bad stereotypes were familiar with. I was the only one willing to go on tv to say that after the access Hollywood Tape came out. Corey, welcome back to liberty. You were here with trump last year . I was here last year, and its such an honor and privilege to be here. Thank you for having us. Has the campus changed a little bit since you were here . Its amazing. The growth from a year ago when i was here, you know, the dorm back behind us wasnt completed. What you have done at this school and is across the country is just amazing, and thank you. [applause] if it werent for the students and their attitudes, you and i were talking backstage about how you were at harvard recently. Tell us about that. You know, i grew up in a town called lowell, massachusetts, which is not a town of privilege [applause] im a blue collar guy who had the opportunity to be on an amazing ride with the most extraordinary candidate in the world, and Harvard University called me and said would you come up and be one of our visiting fellows. And i went up there, and the difference between what president falwell has done here and what they do at harvard is night and day. Its amazing how you understand what the real america is like. And when you go to cambridge, massachusetts, they live in a fantasy world. They are so entitled up there. They think that everybody owes them, that they are the smartest, the greatest, the best. And what happened and what you guys have here is so different. And let me just give you one example. You know, about five years ago they wouldnt let me slow my truck down in front of cambridge, massachusetts, because they hate everything that trump stands for. They hate the fact that hes a populist, that he wants to make America Great again, that hes not a globalist, that he wants to make sure the promises he made on the campaign trail are fulfilled as a president. Thats not what they want up there. They want rhetoric, they want things that make other countries great again. And its so refreshing to come to a university where people care about their country again, and its okay to say merry christmas. [applause] you know, ive got to tell you about your president. Ive got to tell you, because this is the honest to god truth, and jerry knows, the president knows im a truthteller. The day the access Hollywood Tape came out on donald trump, i made one phone call. The only one i made. Because cnn, the president of cnn called me and said, corey, i need you to come on tv right away. I called president falwell, and i said, jerry, i need to go on its in the next three minutes, what do you want me to say . Because every time as a Campaign Manager to donald trump i called the falwells and the falwell family, they showed up. They were there as a steadfast supporter of this president when nobody else was. And jerry and becky came out, and they helped campaign. And they saw in donald trump before anybody else did what this country needed. And he said to me and i repeated it verbatim. He said my father always said were not electing a sunday schoolteacher, were electing the next president of the United States. And i went on television and i said that, and that hit home to so many people. Because what president falwell just talked about is the hypocrisy of the left, all these people who make accusations against other candidates only to find out that their own house is not in order. And what we have finally seen is some of those things are coming back to haunt those very same people. I am so blessed and so privileged to be here at liberty university. Thank you, president falwell, for the invitation. Thank you, corey. [applause] i did notice that the only time the president calls me to go on tv is when hes in real trouble. [laughter] true. He says im a warrior. I dont know, i dont know where he gets that from, but [laughter] but our students are the ones that deserve the credit for whats happened here at liberty. Its them that makes liberty a special place. [applause] we thank you guys for that. Thank you. [applause] randall wallace, who is from lynchburg, he made the movies braveheart, pearl harbor, we were soldiers, secretariat, he spoke at commencement a few years ago, and he went to his sons graduation at duke the next day, and and he said he couldnt believe the difference in the attitude of the students. He said the same thing. At duke it was were entitled, were the elite, we deserve the best in life. He said at liberty it was all about what can we do to serve others, and thats whats going to make you guys much more successful when you get out of here and you get in the real world. Because those are attributes that really lead to true success. And i just, i just have to believe that those guys at duke and harvard are going to be working for you guys one day. [cheers and applause] thats the truth. Look, i president falwell is so right, and hes so smart, and ive had the fridge of going to privilege of going to many of the socalled Ivy League Schools, stanford, oxford. Its the same sense of entitlement that harvard had. What you have here are servant hearts. What you will achieve here because of your education at this institution and the values that you come out of here with are so much superior than all those entitled individuals at those Ivy League Schools who think that the world owes them. Thats because of the leadership that president falwell and the rest of the university has here. So i am so thankful that you are here, and i have an 11yearold daughter, and she said to me, daddy, i want to go to harvard some day. I said, baby, youll never go to harvard, right . [laughter] we dont care about those ivy league freaks, its never going to happen. [laughter] what youre going to do, youre going to go to the greatest school ive ever known, which is liberty university. And i was here [cheers and applause] some day when my 11yearold who i love more than life is going to apply for a school, im going to call president falwell and say, baby, please let her in, because i love her. [laughter] shes going to sit in these very same seats that you do and get the faith and the love and the blessings that you guys have here every day. Because without that you cannot be successful, and thats what you get at this university, so thank you. [applause] you know, corey called me last january on a saturday. He had his people im not sure who called, at 11 00 in the morning, said can you be in iowa at 5 00. And so we jumped on a plane. I said youve got to pay for the plane. The lawyer says liberty cant pay for it. So they paid for the plane, and we were there. We showed up for the rally, full auditorium like this. And i said what am i here for . And they said is, youre the moderator. I said, whoa, okay. So it was just trump and me went out on stage, and i asked the questions. Luckily, id been texting sean hannity, he gave me some ideas. But we went on the plane that night, and i think i never told you this, corey i think i talked too much about liberty when i introduced him, because the next morning when we were in another city getting ready to do another rally, he said, jerry, after this rally im going to send you out to des moines to do some interviews, and i said, oh, i must have talked too much about liberty. The second rally i toned it down, and afterwards he said who the hell needs trump . Jerrys the smartest guy i know. Thats what he said, excuse my language. [laughter] thats what he said. [laughter] laugh after that he said i want you to do the rest of the rallies know. I never told you that story. But anyhow, david, welcome to liberty. Thank you for having me. Yep. You and i have not gotten to know each other that well, but tell me about you were here a few weeks ago. I was just here, down for constitution week about a month or so ago. And enjoyed my time here. I actually came here the first time in 1987. When i was just a kid. I was in my early 20s, i was working for Senate Majority leader bob dole when he was running for president. And came here, and that weekend we had Pat Robertson with your dad, and it was an amazing experience, and ive been blessed to be back many times since. I actually have a junior in high school, so were going to need a little help next year ourselves. And she, shes actually a tremendous student, much better than her dad. And were going to be looking to send her down here. And we have, were blessed with four kids. We live right outside of washington, d. C. In montgomery county, maryland. [cheers and applause] maryland usually doesnt get that big of a round of applause, ill be honest with you. [cheers and applause] its a fairly liberal state, but thank you. And so i had the distinct honor and privilege of being the deputy Campaign Manager. I came in with steve bannon and Kellyanne Conway at the end of the campaign in august and ran the general election. And then i was the deputy executive director for the president ial transition team, so i helped in my little way of building the cabinet and recommending a lot of the folks for jobs and trying to build out the white house. So it was a tremendous experience. I was there i walked into the president s office in trump tower the night that the billy bush tape came out. And i believe the first phone call he made after he spoke to governor pence was to you. He was on the phone with you when i, when i walked into the office. And so i know what a special person and a special relationship you have with the president. And it is, youve been a rock to him, and it has been a blessing to him, your relationship with him. So i just, i want to say thank you for that because he youve seen him and helped him through a lot of issues over years over the years. And you can see his courage just this week with recognizing jerusalem as the capital and what he has done it is, he is the 13th president to say he would recognize jerusalem, but hes the first president to actually do it. [applause] and so its been an amazing week of leadership coming from the white house. So ive had the privilege of knowing the president a long time, and maybe well get a chance to visit about that. But thank you. Any questions . Yeah. So, dave, youve known, among the three guests youve known the president longer than anyone. You got to know him in 2010 through steve wynn and ended up kind of being an adviser to him as he approached, the 2016 election. I guess my question is the message of nationalism, America First, is that was that sin sere . Is that something because a lot of people say is, oh, trump is just about making money for himself, about his brand. How sincere is he in that message . Has he been talking about that message from the beginning . And then, obviously, it carried out into success. You know, it thats a great question. And if you look back throughout 20 or 30 years of videotape thats out there, videotape is what we used to use [laughter] its a and you watch Oprah Winfrey interviews from 20 years ago, you see this president talking about bad trade deals and what it, what it takes for america to succeed economic chi around the world. And economically around the world. And you see him talking about these blue collar issues. And we called him the blue collar billionaire because he connected with people. And so this has been something thats been true to him for a long time. Youre right, i got to know, i got to know President Trump not politically. And thats one of the things in our book, let trump be trump, we try to talk about. We try to talk about the man and his incredible kindness and how generous he is to all those around him. Im just going to share a personal story. I got a chance to know him, steve wynn is a friend of mine, is a famous Las Vegas Casino magnate and a successful businessman and another marylander, i might add. And he was helping me raise money for Childrens Hospital in washington washington, d. C. Where my son not just at that hospital, but at many hospitals had a series of four brain surgeries for a brain aneurysm and then two open heart surgeries. And he struggled more life as a baby. And i wanted to be able to help other children and other parents through raising money for Childrens Hospital so that others could have what my son had, which is the best health care in the world. And it is, it is through that that steve wynn said, dave, im going to introduce you to donald trump who owns the property where you hold that charity event. He just bought it, by coincidence. So he introduces me to thenmr. Trump, and i go meet with him. He is so kind. And in the first meeting, he gave so much and allowed me to become part of his family really. And it was an amazing thing that he has befriended my children over the years and helped me raise hundreds of thousands of dollars for Childrens Hospital. Why do you think that the media doesnt give him more credit for that . The Mainstream Media wants to build him into this character, right, this caricature of somebody that they want, which is somebody who, you know, is a, kind of a figure that people will dislike. And so i, through this book, corey and i through let trump be trump really try to connect people with the man. And its the behindthescenes stories of the campaign. You know, he does tear our we say it in the book, he tears our faces off, you know, on the airplane. And we were looking with or without a parachute we would have liked to have got off the plane a few times. But we had an amazing experience with this man, and he is just so kind and generous. Its one of the things that we wanted to and i talk about my sons journey in the book. Corey, talk about the media. You know, he i think its safe to say he has an antagonistic relationship with the media. I dont think its always been that way, you know . Hes been the master of the media. How much has trump been able to take this antimedia sentiment that is share ised, i think, by so many of his supporters and so many of americans, how s has he been able to turn that into an advantage, and can you talk about the tweets, you know, and what that was like from january 15 for 18 months as sort of trump established himself as the frontrunner. Well, look, someday theyll be a book that comes out that says the tweets that were never published, okay . Itll be the greatest book ever written. [laughter] if you think the ones hes put out already are good, you should see the ones we never put out. Its amazing what candidate trump had opportunity to do with the fake news. He held them accountable for the first time in our lifetimes. We had a fighter who, through his social media activity facebook, twitter, instagram has 100 plus million followers, and he can bypass the fake news. And just this week, not just during the campaign where he fought back every time and said, hey, theres a beauty from npr, youre a real beauty, give me a question, right . He did it all the time. But what he did and what he has done is hes called out the fake news. This week we saw an abc reporter give a false story about donald trump and general flynn. And only through Donald Trumps sheer ferocity of attacking the media did abc recant that story and suspend that journalist. This week we saw a story that bob mueller has subpoenaed Deutsche Bank records. Six hours later after donald trump said that is not true through his social media activities did they recant the story. But never in our lifetime have we had such a fighter in the oval office. And what the American People saw and many of you were here last year when candidate trump was here was a man who wakes up every day and fights for what he believes in. But i have to tell you one story because its so important. Its probably one of the greatest things thats ever happened in my life. President trump is elected, and he gets sworn in on january 20th, and he calls me and says, corey he says, corey. I said, yes, sir. He says, you nebraska come visit me never come visit me. This was february of this year. Would you come see me in the oval office . I said, absolutely. Id never been to the oval office because im a poor kid from lowell, massachusetts. Theres the leader of our free world sitting behind a resolute desk, and to his far right, my left, is the Vice President of the United States. And i stand at the precipice of the oval, right outside, and he looks at me and he sees me, and he says, get in here. And i walk in to those hallowed grounds, the oval office, and he says, my man, come here. [laughter] and he stands up and he gives me a hug, and he turns to the Vice President of the United States and he says, mike, do you know who this is . And the Vice President says, yes, sir, thats corey. And he says, mike, do you know who this is . And the Vice President says, yes, sir, thats corey lewandowski. He says, mike, this is the guy who said you could be the Vice President of the United States. I said, well, sir, 60 Million People said that, but im with you. And mike pence, because i was the chairman of the Vice President ial selection committee, stood up, and he said, corey, will you take my chair . I said, mr. Vice president , i cannot do that. And he said, would you do me a favor . I said, ill do anything you ask, sir. He said, would you pray with me . As we sat in the oval office, our leaders asked for gods help and forgiveness as they lead this great country. And i have never been so humbled of anything in my life. [applause] and mike pence and donald trump are such great leaders. And mike pence sat there, and we prayed together. The president of the United States, the Vice President of the United States, myself and nobody else in the room. And then after the Vice President finished praying, because he was going to go represent our country at a speech, trump hit him on the shoulder and said is, get the hell out of there. Which is the greatest. [laughter] but ill tell you, its so amazing thats so uncanny, because we experienced almost the same thing. We went up there in february, and is we went into Vice President pences office first. What struck me is he has an open bible on his desk all the time. And he reads it every day. And he was so warm and welcoming and personable. Then we go into the president s office, and the president was the same way. He had a red button on his desk in a box, and i said, whats that for . Everybody thinks thats the nuclear button. He pushed it, and a butler came in and brought him a dr. Pepper. [laughter] and so, and we, and my daughter the most important button in the office. My daughter caroline said, mr. President , you look like youve lost weight. He said, yeah, they wont feed me anything here. Theres no scale in the white house, i dont know. And he said they only i used to snack all day long, but he said now they give me remember on the plane he ate three cheeseburgers and a large fry . Yes, sir. I remember on the plane it was president , he was the Campaign Candidate then, hed ask me what i thought of president obama. I said, well, it just seems like hes trying to bring america to its knees. And he stopped and he said, corey, he yelled back for you, jerry think obama wants to bring the country to its knees. I dont know if you remember that, but im getting off the subject. [laughter] anyway, but at the end of our meeting with trump after about 30 minutes, he said the same thing, yall get out of here. Go on. Thats just the way he is. He makes everybody feel like hes their best friend. But, jerry, the fact that they pray in the oval office, they ask for gods blessing and gods forgiveness should never be understated. Thats the side of our leaders that the media doesnt want to show. That is the side where they ask for the strength of god to give them the ability to lead our great country into a path which it has not been led in for the eight years of the previous administration. The media doesnt want to talk about that, but donald trump and mike pence are men of faith, and they have god in everything they do, and it is never reported how important that is for this administration. [applause] thats right. The faith our faith in christ is really what unites us across all political lines. You were talking about redemption earlier. I was with pat caddell a few weeks ago down in maralago, and he said that Martin Luther king was asked back in the 60s why are you a Southern Baptist after Southern Baptists have been for segregation and havent been on your side, and he said i am and i always will be because its a redemptive religion. It really is what unites us all. And i think thats what we the media tries to divide us, tries to divide blacks from whites, rich from poor, you know, name it, just every category, women from men. And its, its something that if we as christians can get past that and love each other, love everybody, then i think then well see our country really change. And i just truly believe that. Steve, tell us about your book. Well, first let me say that let trump be trump is a great book. Im about a third of the way through it, and some of the stories that youve heard today are in the book, and so youll want to get it. Their book is really more a lift the hood and look under and see whats going on. Mine is more of an overview. And Hillary Clinton wrote a book called what happened, and my book answers the question. And that is [laughter] that god intervened in this election. [applause] in the direction that our country was going. There were millions of christians praying, and god answered our prayers in a way we did not expect without with a person we didnt even necessarily like initially until we got to know him more. And, you know, im trying to say that god is sovereign, you know . You talk about the Mainstream Media, they dont talk about god at all unless it has something to do with, you know, rightwing politics. But god is sovereign no matter whos in the white house. He lifts people up. The bible says that. And i believe that god put him in the white house. In fact, former congressman bob mcewen said this week, i was at a meeting, and he got up and said if you cannot see gods hand on donald trump, you are deaf, dumb and blind. And i believe that. Bob mcewen spoke [applause] you know bob mcewen, the former yeah. Hes one of our favorite speakers here. Robert . I guess this is for both of you all, corey and dave. Its been said that trumpism is bigger than trump, and i wonder what you think about that. You know, this president will be up for reelection in 2020, and you see what is happening to him in the Approval Ratings and those sorts of things, remains to be seen what happens between now and then. But my question is, is after hes gone whether he runs again and serves out a second term or not, does, does what his message, does it go beyond, go beyond him . Yeah. Is it bigger than he is . Im going to go quickly, and then maybe you can. Donald trump was elected as a change agent. And i think thats going to continue to be that movement, the trump movement, is that washington, d. C. Has been broken for a long time. And it doesnt work for the American People, and i think we can all see that. No matter what age you are, you can be just as frustrated as anybody else that washington, d. C. Is not working for us. And donald trump told the American People during the campaign that i am a change agent, and i am going to go and fix the broken status quo, and i am going to kick in a couple of doors, and im going to flip over a couple desks, and im going to make the establishment uncomfortable. And we can see that thats the pushback that he gets around washington, d. C. For the last ten months. Theyre a little bit afraid of him and what he will do. And so i believe this tax reform package which just passed the Senate Last Week is really the first big legislative victory of the president s, but its kind of the straw that make break the camels back. Maybe with one big victory the president is going to be able to succeed in very big ways over time. And i think that the trumpism continues well after President Trump is gone. Look, i talk about this, we talk about this a lot in the book, right . Let trump be trump. What he did during that election was unparalleled. The way he saw the pulse of the American People, the way he tapped into that not just here at convocation which he came to, but across the country. People would turn out in droves. And in the book we talk about how the Mainstream Media never gave him the credit. And i heard this all the time as Campaign Manager. People would wait in line for eight hours in a blizzard to get into a donald trump rally in massachusetts and then say those people arent going to hope shop on the polls. These people arent real. Donald trump isnt going to be successful. Jeb bush is a little rusty because he hasnt run for office in eight years. Well, donald trump hadnt run for office in 70 years. Hed never been part of the system. And what we talk about in the book is how we completely disem bowled the disem balled the republican establishment by the sheer e ferocity of his schedule. Six, seven, eight stops a day in four time zones. And what that did was it ignited people who had not been involved in politics for 30 years. You go to michigan, you go to pennsylvania, you go to wisconsin, places where republicans dont win anymore, and you know what they said . They said were tired of the lies in washington, and what we write about in the book is exactly what they said, washington has been so broken, donald trump saw it and said i will fix it. And for the first time in my lifetime and yours as well, we have a businessman in the oval office who is not stymied by 30 years of washington, d. C. Dogma of the way its always been done. And one quick story is we have this great trading partner, its called taiwan. Maybe youve heard of it, right . And the president of taiwan, she calls up the white house. In trump tower right after hes elected. Hes sitting at his beautiful desk on the 26th floor. President falwell knows immaterial, ive been there many, many times. The woman from the front desk says thats the president of taiwan online one, and 19 other guys, sir, we do not recognize taiwan, you cannot take that phone call. And he says, excuse me . Its the president of taiwan, what do they want . Sir, shed like to congratulate you on your election win. Sir, please cannot take that phone call. It will destroy our relationship with china. He goes, hello [laughter] bing he doesnt care. Were putting America First now, and hes not beholden to those special interests in washington. Thats what we write about. He is the blue collar billionaire. He funded his own campaign, and he doesnt care the way it used to be done because he wants to do right for america, and thats what the books all about. Another example of that was when he was meeting with a group of evangelicals early last year, maybe late 2015, and they said we like you, mr. President , but we cant support you because of the Johnson Amendment. Were not allowed because of the irs. We all had taxexempt organizations. We cant endorse you. He said, what are you talking about . They explained to him the Johnson Amendment. I guess Lyndon Johnson added to another bill in the 50s, and it basically took away the free speech rights of people like me and pastors. And he said, well, im going to get rid of that. And sure enough, he kept his promise. Its another big thing he did for evangelicals, is he gave pastors and heads of nonprofit organizations like this one the right to speak, to have political free speech. And you might have something to comment about that. You know, this is significant because ive never even heard of a politician talking about the Johnson Amendment, yet its very when youre in the nonprofit world, you know about it. And isnt is it interesting how fast that donald trump got it. You didnt have to draw him a picture, he figured it out real quick and said its wrong. And he fixed it with executive actions, but he also says hes going to get legislation through, and i believe that he will, to fix it permanently. And this is just an example of the leadership that he is giving this country which just confounds everybody. But it gets back to what ive said in my book is that god had a plan, and he raised him up for such a time as, and hes continuing to bless him. Well, the Johnson Amendment is one of the first things he talked about when he came here last time. Did you want to add something . Two corinthians. [laughter] other than two corinthians. Actually, thats a lot of people say it that way. And, by the way, i dont know if John Robertsons here, but his family influenced the president s thinking on the Johnson Amendment a lot. Phil robertson, his grandfather, spent a lot of time in his ear about it. And i was there a lot when they were talking about it. It was always a wonderful thing to have that family around him. Well, and back to something you said, corey, about career politicians. You know, i think the American People have figured those guys out, and they dont want em anymore. But the question is whether the Republican Party is going to get smart and stop running them against democrats. In virginia they ran one against the democrat, and they lost. And i think its going to keep happening over and over. We need some more nontradition allocates. How are we going nontraditional candidates. How are are we going to recruit people to come in, serve for six years and get out of there . I can tell you, first of all, thats a great idea, robert [laughter] get you off this campus maybe again one day. But look, i actually got my start in politics on a College Campus in 1984. Which makes me really old, i know. But it is, i was there for Ronald Reagans reelection campaign. At the university of maryland. And it was a tremendous, tremendous thing to cut my teeth and get interested in the conservative movement. And i hope that each of you will consider getting involved in your communities, getting involved it doesnt have to be, you know, in politics. Figure people out. Think about it. Ask questions. Thats the most important thing you can do as young folks and be active and engaged. And so, look, you know, corey, im just going to wrap up. Corey and i talk about in our book the ferocity of the campaign and the schedule, but it was run by about well, it was six or ten of us that were the core up group. And the president was 70 or 71 when he was running, and he drove us into the ground. His physical stamina, his motor ran at an unbelievable speed. And it was ed by fast food fed by fast food. I dont know if any of you have seen the media explosion over his diet of mcdonalds we had four food groups, basically, mcdonalds, kentucky fried chicken, pizza and diet coke. That was [laughter] that basically was the fuel for the campaign. And, you know, look, we have a lot of really funny stuff in the book about whether its us pressing the president s pants on the plane while hes still wearing them [laughter] you know . Which you had to be very careful. Or our diets or just how we would fill five or six stadiums a day 10, 15, 20,000 people a day, three different time zones across the country, day in and day out. And Hillary Clinton was having trouble filling a high school cafeteria. And that was when we knew, we knew we had the finger on the pulse of the American People and what election day might behold when we saw those types of things. Thats great advice, david. All you should take note. Get your careers established, do something outside politics, and then when youre ready, try to go in and serve for just a short time, then go back to what youre doing because youll have a better perspective for whats needed for the country than anybody who spends their whole lives in politics. I believe that. President falwell, youre so right. Look, career politicians have destroyed our country. It was never meant to be a lifestyle. You know, we just saw, you know, congressman conyers resign in disgrace. He was elected in 1962 or something, right . 1965. I mean, this is insane. This is not what its supposed to be. Go out, have a productive career, create jobs, do something of value. Dont go to washington and say is this is the best job ive ever had, because thats what happens. And they take these guys out of washington in pine boxes because they leave when theyre 97 years old if theyre lucky, right . All they want to do is be career politicians, and theyve done nothing. And what the donald trump revolution has showed us is that when you create jobs and you create value and you create a business and you employ people, the American People respect that, and thats what they want in washington. So go out and do Something Different than spend your life in politics. And i just [applause] thats exactly right. And one of my colleagues up in washington who is a true hero of the conservative movement and a 25year friend of mine is amy paul. I dont know if maggie is in the audience, shes a sophomore here, your mom is one of the greatest leaders of the conservative movement and a tremendous patriot. And i dont know if youre here, but id love to say hi to you afterwards if possible. Also Hannah Lankford is a student here, her dad ran for senator, won in oklahoma tremendous. My guess is he probably will go back to what he was doing before, but thats what we need, manufacture of that. I just realized were completely out of time, and i promised them wed get them out early. I was having too much fun, sorry. [laughter] both of the books, steves and daves and coreys, were going to give a special deal for students, 5 apiece no, no, 6 apiece or two for 10, okay . I came up with that idea before convo. [laughter] anyhow, its just the books are great were going to be here to sign them, i hope, if youd like. Well be here to sign them for you. On both sides, right . Or maybe all over there. Anyhow, god bless. Youre dismissed, thank you. Thank you. Thank you. [applause] [inaudible conversations] booktv is on twitter and facebook, and we want to hear from you. Tweet us, twitter. Com booktv. Or post a comment on our facebook page, facebook. Com booktv. [applause] [inaudible conversations] good evening. Im warren