You and congregate in the jfk parking. Please also take those moment now to. [silence] your cell phones. You can join the conversation online with the hashtag, jfk junior farm life. Editor with our student run instagram. At jfk junior forum behind the scenes and lights. Please take your seats now join me in welcoming our guests, and director of the center on media and politics and Public Policy. Nancy gibbs. [applause] getting for those of you havent had a chance yet the semester to make it across the charles hotel, the center over on the industry is focused on the intersection of many of politics and Public Policy which means we are basically looking at the quality of information in a free society. So a lot of that means working to get the best research into the hands of journalists to help newsrooms with hard questions that they are facing in all that is about promoting good highquality information. You will understand why at this moment in our history, a lot of hard work is also focused on information contaminants. That information. And on the wave in which information streams are polluted and poisoned. And leading that work for us, is doctor Joseph Donovan who is going to be moderating tonight. I say of john as the model of the scholar who bridges theory and practice with real time highly relevant research. She is building a casebook of a hundred case studies and medium manipulation that will not only be invaluable to researchers it will be actionable intelligence for newsrooms and Civil Society leaders that are at a time when these questions in these challenges cannot be more urgent. So the work that john and her team are doing the work that we are doing here of the work that we are talking about and are convening center classes and in our brown bag lunches, his work that i hope you will all engage with us on because i do believe it is critically important at this moment in our country news history. I am so pleased that our inaugural if it is on the topic that is the sergeant and a group of people to bring so much to these questions. Please welcome Jonah Donovan and her panel. [applause] thank you so much to nancy and warren at the center, its been a Pretty Amazing journey and getting my phd and doing some work at data and society the nonprofit and that indigo pair where i grew up about 10 miles from here. It is a pretty big deal. My spouse has alerted my mother that there is a lifestream so [laughter] and you should tell your friends as well. There is a lifestream tonight so that i can fulfill my dream of getting out of route one. And be in cambridge. Before we get started, we are going to do something that is not traditional within cambridge and hes but i say it is a really important thing that we start to do here which is the territorial acknowledgment. As unlikely today, we have erica violently was a writer and community geyser and graduate students who created studies and did indigenous philosophies embodied geographies and de colonial system ologies of desire and then in the future. Erica has worked with the more the canadian news Climate Coalition in the data Suzuki Foundation among others in the pursuit of indigenous feminist freedoms. She is part of the tribe from saskatoon and a member of the on child free nations currently enrolled in a master news programs in special justice education at ois eat at the university of toronto. Zavala if you come up here and eric and violet, come up here and talk to us about recognition in the land acknowledgment. Thank you joan. Carmack. My name is Erica Violet Lee emma visitor from up north. The monitor to deliver this land acknowledgment as a of this Brilliant Panel tonight. Thank you to Harvard University native american program. So often on acknowledgments can be are absent altogether. So i tried my best to make this one a little different. We knowledge that the intertwined legacies of the devastation transit logic slavery in salt lake colonialism, which contribute to the can ration and wealth of this university in the station. My knowledge that the reparations owed to black and indigenous communities and the impossibilities of return for generations past. And ancestors in the room tonight as we fight together for better futures. We knowledge that we all live in an era of necessary resistance to preserve this planet and all of the beautiful creation that is no doubt worthy of the struggle. My knowledge of the land hearts said is the traditional territory of the massachusetts people and is the place which is long served as a side meeting and exchange among nations. Thank you. [applause] thank you so much erica. She comes here to talk to a little bit about the workshop we held in a minute but first i should introduce our panel tonight. At the far end here we have latoya peterson, who that television veterans specializing in emerging technologies shes an art award wheeling writer from major outlets like the New York Times and pr is the bill and could talk to. As well as a three time judge the world video game hunting. She didnt want to Forbes Magazine 30 and a 30 rising starts media. Racialist. Com which talks are used to publish about the intersection of race in pop culture. Our new endeavor, blowup games, check it out. As a creative r b studio running the future of interactive entertainment. In the center here, we have kelly at mohamed he was a professor of history race and Public Policy and hs had is that susan young right for a professor at the red clift for if it studies and is currently leading a project at sourcing on institutional antiracism and accountability nicknamed the ira project. Please check out what they are doing. And he is the former director of the Schomburg Center for black culture. So thank you for coming. Is on sabbatical. This is the very special occasion for us to have you here. Rabin achievement benjamin who admittedly is one of my sort of academic idols, i aspire to be like you and i have got a lot of work to do because you are an associate professor in the department of africanamerican studies at Princeton University where she studies the social dimensions of Science Technology medicine race and power. She is the founder of just being a lab and she just released to amazing books race after technology which is so offered and Captivating Technology which is says and dictate collection. This verse that i aspire to but nobody should be expecting to be publishing two books anytime soon. [applause] maybe one is ambitious. So welcome everybody here today and i want to welcome my classes here so thank you for coming. Its really nice of you to show up because im a deal. [laughter] is definitely make sure the you see jen for attendance. Im getting rid Straight Talk about the pilot seat of difference in rhetoric of inclusion. We have a wonderful workshop today at please not include us. We are both leading advocates on human rights and Information Security no one say about for hosting this thoughtful if it here at harvard, we are able to do today is bridget product manager stated scientists and policy makers and activists to say about the public conversations we should be having about the limits of inclusion as an and litigated social good. And of course acknowledging differences can be really discomforting but the recognition of difference can also help us say differently about building intentional communities in one of the sort of pain points is being an university sometimes is a lot of inclusionary rhetoric at the same time that we traffic a lot of exclusionary politics and so even as im convening this conversation here, opened with the provocation and questions to say about what can inclusion mean. So what i am talking about inclusion and exclusion paradigm i am thinking about a few very recent examples. July had a public outcry and he resigned. And later the summer, and faculty and researchers were called out to refined publicly about funding by same several faculty resigned. There were also the midst of a cultural shift related to technology and inclusion as well as accountability. And while each of us sell some dive boat wave about what could inclusion mean, we also are in some ways perplexed because some powerful people are being held accountable. But also that seems pretty rare. As i want open by asking if youd like to respond to this, we do say about we say about politics of exclusion and in inclusion and we do see potential for our shift. Anyone of you can jump in. I just start by staying with respect to the snyder issue that i just want to acknowledge that the individual who really galvanized public attention around that was last feminist abolitionist dorian. So i just want to call forth the idea that people outside of the academy understand mistakes and sometimes better than we do that are situated here. Suffer me with the entire sort of organizing effort indicates is that, people are ready and wheeling to hold a mirror up to these ideals that we give lip service to and see you just cant put on their website. You cant just invoke these ideas in your everyday practices actually run directly counter to enter hypocritical essentially. Suffer me one of the things i started to huawei from that was not only that we have to protest and refuse withhold support from institutions that are being hypocritical, but i say that lasting change really has to make the alternative to that is that motive desirable. With the alternative is to the scotus quo, we have to sort of make it so that it is more attractive and desirable. I love that. About alternatives for because a lot of the focus has been removing people like immediate, were about three or four years out from you doing things are still happening and giving the just had a wave of me to and allegations and Different Things against our instructor and get to gate keeper and who doesnt. And the biggest thing that we notice as well is that you cant remove these from power but the system will continue to credit graduate if there isnt that reckoning that has come with it. This art thats been a lot harder. These individual moves that you can get my people. And all of the perpetrators are minutes of these cases. Individual people who are doing these types of expert is much harder to change the system that was still allowed and accept that kind of her name and offer that person a fellowship. Its a lot hard that we see as morality. I say has been that big a shift in the conversation in terms of okay, what types of institutions some dive boat nation do we want to be and how hard we are what is our ethical core. If we start to define that in a different way and has been done thus we see a structural change. Im just glad to be included in this conversation. [laughter] you are really terrific thinkers. First i want to acknowledge that doctor benjamin, resending her acceptance to be here tonight. This isnt just about what activists do on the outside, it is also about the response ability of those of us on the inside who cant be complicit in accepting certain norms that are on acceptable. So i want to applaud you [applause] i know firsthand that that has helped make a difference here in the outcome. But the other thing i want to see is what epstein incited together lets put them together, and this way is an invitation to the work that has been done in the work they were going to talk about tonight. And that is that they are powerful and to some degree her name, shapes both a politician news career as well as as a donor. Between the Decision Making the degree to which inclusion runs against any kind of formal change. If you want to suggest money, that plays a big part. Very interesting. I wanted to do a general introduction, talk to you about these two statements. Raise after technology is i think they would call an active scholarship to say the just activists see each other out, this was the citations with the direct relationship between research and practice. Seeking each other out, they learn from one another how to related systems of ceramics. The book has this survey where together they want to know, exposed this is. Alexi r. Brock. They tend to technologies being deployed already to classify the population and tend to question if there is even possible for can technology the right. I would ask you to talk about what motivated you to bring together this collection. Some of the takeaways, especially when data is activated perhaps are happening all around us but we dont see them readily. I straddle the fields. Patient was trying to print publications that im so happy of various discipline. To conversations was trying to draw together Captivating Technology. Whats happening in the field of science and technology i want to check out sheila, thinking about putting a conversation critical race studies and trying to bring together those thoughts about is disturbing terms of sharpies every moment in speculatively in the future. The way its organized the take away from that structure or that there were traditional rights of policing. Prisons you can see how technology can be processed. Thats the first section and conversation but then becomes into our brief moment will set you dont think our claims of Technology Like the Digital Service economy for philanthropy be to industry. H m and for over 21 think about how they show the same tools logic birth the tells surveilled workers. Because of these crazy folk the tools logic self surveillance jump ship, they scale prison walls in many ways in architecting so many of our institutions them to the conversations with the contributors what this is the most for putting together this volume is that might didnt eventually just stick with diagnosing this problem of Race Technology but i was pushed by one of the more senior traders to think about, now what . Would happen . , i was feeling titles for the text and i had some really bad ones and they were honest, its something to work. When individual setting in the way your framing the text and title, youre getting a lot of intellectual base to diagnosing the problem that you set out to do in giving almost no space barr tragic condition with an alternative be, what would the approach to Technology Like . Because it looked like . In the exchange with this individual where he said week, in general, scholars to feed a lot of the intellectual space a people who dont want in the world. Rather than aiming in opening up conversation and space barr what we do . Actually feeding the alternati alternative. Pushes me not in terms of the title for to flush out this last third of which is about how groups that have been oppressed have always resisted and we imagine these practices from the top. You will find in the last section, both historically and in terms of contemporary moments ways in which all different types of the world, even divine we think of innovation. That is what i years, especially the students will take place as an energizing space around the alternative that we want. He also written extensively about the history of incarceration and condemnation of black men. The transition from slavery, i can see theres moments where the technology through the wall. Were talking this morning, he said this is an apple watch just a monitor. As we looked around, like, but zero. We want our stuff we in a way, creating the data, surveilling ourselves. One of the concepts you bring up the concept of the racial Data Revolution, fueling statistics into the conversation about the people. Talk more about this Data Revolution is understood is and what to do with the way in which turning to data today. Just a basic definition, i think its important for me to pull away. Its a little more than administrative data that the produces, registration and voter registration, giving drivers license, got. You get arrested. Full records. All that stuff, when you fill out those forms, Social Security step draw your life has been increasingly successful. He used to be on little pampering cards it was a long effort to collect that information and do something with it. So harvesting what we all leave behind, traces of our lives and dimensions of our lives with Computer Technology we are talking about here. That takes us back 125 years when the nation was in turmoil immigration and also the people work from abroad, mostly at the issue of business because of labor. African americans were thinking about at the wake of the civil war. Saint just set about the task of trying to find who was where the buses. Should be the drops of water should be the middle managers etc. If they picked up with the kind of pretty scientists that age started to compile another version of big data. They use what they have at the disposal and what they had was largely census data. I fixated on crime data in a real breakthrough. The reason is because one of the parallel questions was with population shift on the scale that we are occurring in the industrial revolution, the question of how to harness peoples power but also to contain social contagion disease incidence, all these other social cultural concerns about what they bring with them it was simultaneously about making money from the bodies it at the same time, the 19th of in segregated communities. Prefer the irish were published for African Americans living from south to the north. Crime statistics became one of the most durable and important technologies in the way of bringing peoples relative business for citizenship. There relative fitness for being truly included in society, selfdirected progress, suspicious and hopefully they will dangerous. Your individuality dont matter. Some of this led to immigration restrictions akin to the calls closing the border to the. Its really striking the parallel with which the claim the data itself was. The political agenda was a simple articulation of the fact of the choices that individuals made, in some ways the rejecti rejection, the kind of biological argument which in the past hundred people are inferior because of the way they their hairballs, to this is the way they behave is that this stage the bias in the data that she likes. The behavior was subject to surveillance standards of treatment justice. The last thing that there was also a way out. As much as statistics became a permanent stigma for black people is a way of rolling them of the citizenship and freedom its creating conditions which would eventually get the. That same data was converted on behalf of those whose citizenship was a pretty enterprise of what we would call americanization. Through the same groups in the 1850s that had been crime data is as a reason to limit their citizenship say the irs 20s help save irish people because speaking them to be part of our society. So in that story, we see that the choice of what to make of the data is our choice. The data doesnt tell us what to do. We interpret the data separate from whether the data is a real production of reality. Work is much more contemporary but even for a current bio, youve been talking about race and technology for at least a got it when i was searching and looking for your file. You have been in the world journalist makers trying to struggle with his fine line between pride we put data in service of the culture also, apparently pulled spaces online for kind of discussion . Talk a bit about the time when racial issues was one of the most preeminent outlets that were discussed these important issues of race and culture technology. About telling us if we are doing it or not. [laughter] will be doing, became a project called because he watch that started they were looking to help the beacon responded. Lets the depictions in pop culture, depictions of. Race backgrounds were really problematic, see or hear a lot about what was happening. Talking masculinity or racial, backlash to Political Correctness. Still before we got to. She started this blog, they requested but the public, who wasnt being . The terms of all over the world they were talking about pulling out. We started noticing bait bff. This is what they were still trying to get people inside the things like race feature do things like please dont forget the times removing the ball she is due on racial courage. They fail nicole jones had a product of obituaries that whatever people were curable but because of their racial background of the number of the credit they deserve something happened rewriting. There was a lot of editing within the time of control. Just racial issues, there were double spaces trying to talk back to the weekend. This response profile so all of these things at the time when reporting is probably for bloggers trying to get credentials, the first time they one, although stacy were still very strange. They just have to be on the people having a deeper station that they can is. It got a lot of response. That. He got really angry at us for that. Sometimes when talking to vanity fair about donna, we talked about and what that looks better. It allowed us to speak what was happening in a way that was saved dealing with the rights of lets see. The racial care and tactics. It just great. Its the same ten census, those executing with messaging. People talk about your peeps, its okay to be trying to provoke these stocks. We watched the library anymore, become more sophisticated and is an interesting read. First articles must is all volunteer, was said. One person was very tech savvy, 2748 it was a turn. This is something . They were going through Different Things trying to people that were page to the bed the truth is. Data points and how . Was working on his information about a city or be with information. What is the i am known for of 20 this is bogus jack for getting great. It was a person assaulted me. There was a pool trial going on. They just. Story of comcast pets. Its about. Its interesting about that, thats great in case they wrote the years ago, with service because of the old wood. The Washington Post put their progress, it created a project of this is the text. Jds resurfacing. His tactics from calling her as a ghost. Technology change its. The nation of audience, talk, how much data you have any given person there of conference. The whole. , different modes of artificial. Is it because of that. Is that the Business School showed the shooting. His name next reports. The results will they went directly to law enforcement. This idea of his vision for future work every pop is a double puff. We watched movie i was pretty Artificial Intelligence for, who is working for the system is that the way to Technology Types of boats of all Common Technology was . Work, g the Justice System works. You see. The people have been okay, you get a very different of. Oh well. Top of the design process their benefits. Unfortunately we hope peter gx is going from. They home touching. She put up this post. Some part of the top of the pews there is the to say customers are calling for closure. The rest of of such social, 15. Sixteen. People always say. Each article over the states. Mr. Anything right exploded with judy try to stutter that is that this is for us to this portion of the session to talk about of. This information is for the narratives and possibilities for redesigning culture through gaming. It picks up on the sophistication of what our colleague recalls, the fact that white nationalists are innovation opportunists so they are trained to think about racism is what happens in the back woods as a byproduct of not knowing things. So what our work is troubling, is the innovation aspect of racism, its often forwardlooking. When you think about the code which is invoking in the history of White Supremacy and racial segregation, the code is thinking about how the sophistication and enabling new forms of gratification is speeding up the possibility, making it easier. A quick Example School advertisements, Housing Developers and they put up flyers in neighborhoods in l. A. Which is where my grandparents moved. These flyers would try to entice white homebuyers by saying dont worry, by in this neighborhood because we have restrictions. We dont let black people moved here so your investment will be secure. This was an old school targeted ad which was enabled through the back door of various facebook, google in which advertisers can target intake we dont want black people were old people to see this. So this enables the old school discrimination but in a new form for the people work being preyed upon or excluded dont even though. You cant point to the racist research because you dont even know your being selected out. This is an illustration of the new code that was invoking the history but it actually enabled new forms of discrimination right under our noses and we need to Pay Attention to that. So much more to say. You have done some really great work. This information well, of course the light may be the greatest Disinformation Campaign in the last 400 years. Whats fascinating is that one of the key elements of that campaign is the use of black Crime Statistics as a mobilizing tool to simultaneously still quite fierce of a mexican racist class of immigrants flooding the borders, building on hold and entranced notion of black valley. At the same time, they refused to discredit black lives matter to visit itself which became a lightning rod for supporting the republican candidates in the 2016 elections who made a platform based on law order. Not of them can overstate the case that the disinformation about black lives matter, not only was coordinated by some of the same people that she has described but also by russian flats who use the fragmentation to use critiques state assembly in which traffic digital blackface which was a character black activist looks normal yet spots are. So we boast of actual every strand of society, if we just take one step back from the creation of a black identity extremist report to the digital blackface and white nationalists for the threat of black and brown people in this country and then we think about the overall outcome in our electoral arena, you could center the consequences of any court significantly, cant take anymore aspect of society and say well, race and crime is not really important. We should talk about other issues. So the question of how they are dealing with it and what we should be doing about it, the attack of white supremacist on innocent people also bent that disinformation is enabled federal officials from seeing the real problem. It created a big problem. What do we do . It turns out some of the resistance to what was going on was only made possible by virtue of black people on social media and seeing what was in authentic language, of faith vernacular, seen the pork, a sludge, digital faith of white actors think no, that is not us. So the question for us is, what role we play in insisting upon the very people that latoya has described needs to be at the table of newsmaking, digital platforms, Tech Industry which remains some of the most exclusive arenas, if they are actually there to see whats happening on these platforms, we could expect to scrutiny and vigilance on the front hand other than back and. The answer is, include more black people in these rooms. I want to say it cleaning because it rings true every time it happens, every time we introduce a different voice into the rooms that says why are we doing it that way . Do you see this other thing . Theyre lightweight, what quits theres a different story here . Not just inclusion but power. So its not just the one person in the room and arena. I think social media also introduces some but you have to create such a massive wave to do that authentically that it sometimes feels like an insurmountable problem and it is exhausting. Latoya, i want to close out go to q and a. There are different strategies in changing the way in which gaming culture and the culture is recognizing itself. I want to quickly talk about this work, throughout the scholar, he lives parttime in ukraine and he wrote extensively about russias tactics of the division in the crimea. Hes an africanamerican writer and scholar. If youre looking for someone in the region, and has experience in this, i want to write for you, i am yet. Its six years now hes been talking about this and has still not done it. Anyway. I think from a narrative perspective, one of the things to think about not just in gaming but where culture or spike to live, people like to see culture worse, thats why College Campuses proponent types for trying to choke Racial Division and these activities. Thats what gaming became such a hot topic. I think many realized essentially it was attracted to people who want to start a culture war because they felt like it was a lot of radicalized in the same space. You see this in fairy spaces, its also how ice is recruited. Its interesting to look at that and patterns of seeing how similar they are. The game stays in the gaming industry. Its been considered a young white space for a long time. Theyre all colorcoded and we were looking to change narratives because we deserves representative, back in 2012. I played with all kinds of stuff. I think to play as a black woman, i think i have played like six times. I have been a white man thousands of times. I could be of nonhuman more than a black woman. We came up with maybe 17 in like 32 years. Theres a lot of changes that can be done, the idea is what the narrative. What is somebody selling . These people really arent you. Theyre not real gamers, their social justice warriors. They are trying to use weird tactics, all this crab we dont need. We dont want a black character even though this idea of this narrative that theres an us and them and we keep them out of our stuff, you see this over and over. When we talk about narratives and what they are allowed to proliferate, hes the things you have to watch because gaming rules the world, all this stuff has now come to center. People didnt anticipate or expect that. The idea of looking at narrative is it just about creating more outcome but also actively confronting the folks who try to twist this and racism innovati innovation. It produces things. A lot of times theyre trying to go where we are not. Thats a huge think like in streaming, its a whole different culture of watching someone else play a game for four hours. Youre attracted to who they are, what you talked them. Its unfiltered and unedited stream for four hours. Sounds like a golf outing. [laughter] a couple more minutes for questions and i know my friend here in the front wanted to ask one. Go up to the microphone here. I just want to say, the feeding stars of technology. I am very persuaded by the conversation, resistance is not p12 but what i really got out of this, it is the resistance. All the Different Things you are speaking to, i dont know if my 16yearold son know about the reality of the assistance because what i hear as i drive my son is, but mom, privacy is the price we pay for progress. Whats the problem with using privacy . The price we are paying, we are using privacy, control and having other people correct so much information about us but who knows about this resistance . Its interesting the way you frame the question but that is what motivated me after technology because i wanted to make difficult, not just the problem but all of the Community Organizations, the National Networks from the various interventions that are trying to go around the movement to address various kinds of inequity. I do think it can be happening under our noses but part of his to bring to light and connect the dots so the serious scholars here are connected with a Community Organization that are working with artists, reimagining our relationship really connecting the dots around this so the generation who plans to craft every year for the first time the relationship is a. The going so Service Billing of the technical proficiency but what we really need to the company is a critical language, the conceptual tool to go along with that because knowing how they do the machine without questioning it is not going to serve us. I met them at a couple of years ago it was an entire ecosystem of resistors who have built incapacity and committed. The note about that, i did find out the conference is going to happen next year in the summer in new york city. Two of my least favorite things. One of my most favorite things. The registration actually boost pretty quickly, its usually two or three days and then it will be closed because a lot of people want to support the organization to buy tickets even if theyre not going to go but i agree we understand organizational processes and joint organizations that have durability and infrastructure and principles are something that the moment of 2011, 2012 may be underserved because it was so easy to activate to get people in the street. Those like every shutdown to collect. It was really easy to mobilize but they were not building the infrastructure. There needs to be returned to Organization Project and anybody can start that. Thats the thing about the internet thats beautiful in that way. I also wanted to up in the back. I am a junior at the college. Im currently on the history of technology and we talked about the idea of technology of social construction and that it depends on the social context in which it is created. I know its a lot of connections tonight, showing our countrys history and current society, gaming is used and constructive today so i am curious to hear thoughts as to whether qc Technology Going forward as simply reactive to society values, good or bad or do you think theres a Way Technology can drive social change for the better . To me its always both. Technology tends to migrate so even people make something, the creative design, we want motion video. It became this totally different ecosystem it has its own pattern language, speech. There shaking and and it becomes something different. It can be used to push but in the same vein, its always used also to paul. We were talking about ankle bracelets are there, is a article about someone who prosecuted based on fitbit testimony and a next video. They prosecuted him for his murder of his daughter. That was it like we are going to use this in criminal prosecution but thats what happened. Technology always take on a life of its own. It decides what its going to be based on the user base there. Theres some collective action where people say they limit or ban facebook, we can put up big tech but the way they implement into society when you see people using it, its a much more complicated and harder issue. Im giving you all the last word. Its 7 00 oclock and i am down by hospitals iop to shut it down. By way of closing, this conversation is brought up for me a lot of hope and promise that even though we do have technological monopoly going on related to some of the order for companies there are people here created new culture, being part of different circuits of power and one of the greatest hopes when the internet was designed, it would be centralized at the same time check corporations if money would figure out how to centralize other things. Rather than inspire you to leave and become the next youtube st star, the. Here is to experiment with technology trying some new things. Technology critically. Understanding Technology Uses you as much as you use it but the same time, its not going away, its not going to be a boycott. This is a slow revolution. In the midst of a revolution. They turned us all into readers. The internet turned us all into office. Go forth and read and write and flirt and dont go work at one of those companies. [laughter] [applause] this sounded like such a great spending. My closing sentiment would be oftentimes when you hear these ideas, the first impulse is to talk about what you can to do individually to be different. The impulse to only think of the level of individual change, or to push you to think about action. Organizing, is it happening among themselves . But it is happening all around. I think right here in cambridge, think about the design just to spell it at mit, professor shock, you have the just leaked so product than trying to invent something new as part of the solution, connect with whats already happening. One of the not so heartening things i noticed is that tech pros are trying to establish centers of ethics, taking the idea that has long been there and imagining themselves as offering the solution to the problem they created rather than thinking with those tradition disciplines that have long been in the trenches. Rather than trying to come up with your new startup, connect up with messages that already exist and support them. We are all getting an individual round of applause. [applause] i wanted to close on thinking about a cautionary note about the polymerization of tech. So many of you are here because you have concerns, questions but a lot of people arent there. Theres a lot of sexiness about turning to technology and innovation as an expression of helping some of the world complicated problems. I wanted to mention its come full circle that capitalists are not going to make you rich after racist feminist to reach out all white supremacist men in your life. You have to make a choice about this kind of work. You have to figure out how to measure success that is not dependent upon economic metric because you picture the idea and some rich person or even a wealthy philanthropy is not invested. That may not be a measure of whether its a good idea or not is the more of you come to a community of people who can collaborate and share resources to get them off the ground whatever they have to be, the more likely we are to move the needle. Think about the healthwatch some people maybe downloaded it but it was an expression of the role of cell phone video and documenting Police Violence and abuse over the last several years. It didnt make anybody rich but it didnt empower people to be ready this was not about every one, this was roughing up about 16 throat coming home from school, and officer decided his wife was too long across his body. Cap but the markets continue to dominate your own agenda and ethical code about whats valuable or not in our society. [applause] park. I think for me from tickling any time you encounter a new community, technology, ask yourself, what am i not seeing . Technology, whats the way this actually works whos benefiting from me during this . What, who is missing from this . Theyre quick lets look at the history of internet means. You will notice though but basis the games they put up, thats intentional. But if you look at this the internet, you will miss all the ethnics, everybody. Right because it is included intentionally. What am i not team . What is being hidden from me . How does this work . If you start asking questions, you end up in some really odd places, i tell you from experience. You find all kinds of things you never thought you could know. [applause] i appreciate everyone coming out tonight and thats a round. Thank you. [applause] tonight, ceo john brown shows his progress. Dicks Sporting Goods ceo talks about the companys decision to stop selling guns in the stores. For the questions for the forgiveness can strengthen the american Justice System. Donald trump junior park is the left is using Political Correctness silence conservatives. Tune in tonight at 7 40 p. M. Eastern and find more information on your program type or visit booktv. Org. Next week, an anonymous person believed to be a senior official in the Trump Administration will release a books title published by 12 books. According to the Washington Post, which received a copy of the book ahead of publication, the author reflects on why he wrote the book anonymously. I decided to post this because this debate is not about the, its about us. Its about how we want the presidency to reflect our country and thats what the discussion should center. Some will call this cowardice, like feelings are not hurt by the accusation. Im unprepared to attach my name to criticizing president trump. The author is extending on the New York Times in september 2018 hundred, and part of the resistance inside the trump ministration. In the book, the author corrects an assertion on the open impeach last year. I was wrong about the right resistance inside the administration. Unelected bureaucrats and cabinet appointees to steer donald trump in the right direction or refine his malignant management style. He is who he is. Next we can come up especially on a 40. You will hear from joe, the longtime anonymous author of the printed novel primary colors. Check your Program Guide for book tv ductwork for schedule information. The new cspan online store has bookkeeping products go to cspan store. Orc to check them out. See whats new. Good afternoon. If i could have your attention, therefore to get started. I am to send. It is my great honor to welcome you to our form policy form. During the lunch and help yourself. I know you are all very busy. I have appreciated you taking the time to be there