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Starting at 1 00 oclock eastern time. We will have that live here on cspan2. We now return to the discussion on national security. When you look at our deterrent the rest of the world looks at deterrence is integration of offense and defense. That is the way the rest of the world looks at deterrence. When i looked it up they look at our offense and defense and think about that is more deterrence. We need to thing about offense and defense as our integrated deterrence as well. We need to start digging about what the next generation of our defense will be and what we will walk into and then if you want to know how you know that we dont look at it together the last time we had an opportunity to do it together was the beginning of the and ministries and we decided to do Nuclear Posture review and a Missile Defense review separate. And a strategy dissolve cingular strategy. Oh, by the way, as a nation we understand that missile defens defenses article to our future and critical to our defense and to the threats in north korea but we have not made a decision about what the role is in Missile Defense broader in our overall we have to make that decision. Its not a National Decision. That is not a thats a National Decision that we have to make. You are doing a great job of segueing purposely from question to question without even knowing it. One of the things the chairman has asked you to say hate special attention to we have a question on the expiration of new start in 2021 when can you talk about the merits of extension on new start and the specific query revolved around lets see if i can understand, express concern about new Nuclear Weapon systems underdeveloped by russia with the mockup that in november 2 would be covered by the start treaty and the others wont likely be developed until 2026. Could we get an extension of the start treaty in order to prevent deployment of further russian weapons . So, its a really important topic. Its also a topic where we have significant discussions about right now not just in the apartment but in the areas seen in the white house. I will not share my military advice but i will structure the elements of the problem and i will go back and tell you what ive said in the past because i still believe that. And i believe that new start is a good thing. If youre the strat calm commander new start is important. You know why thats important . Because it gives you a number that is at the top of the Strategic Deterrent element and allows you to foster or force what you have to do to deter the adversary, russia in this case, and it also gives you insight into the Russian Nuclear forces because of the verification. Those are very, very important issues. Those are the good things. Thats why i will push for that kind of peace but there is a really piece going on right now. The negative piece is Nuclear Weapons are no longer a bilateral problem its a multilateral problem. China is growing as fast as anyone in the world and at some point we better sit down with china and figure out how we will do that and it would be nice and we started early rather than late. Start early before we get into a position of potential conflict. Talk now and have those discussions. The other piece of the problem is a big problem for strap calm for the nation and for the world is all the weapons that russia is building that arent other the new start treaty. , by the way, its not just all the things that president putin talked about in march 2018 speech and not just the nuclear or pito with the Nuclear Weapon on the top and not just the nuclear arms Cruise Missile that can fly anywhere and do anything and those are significant but its also the thousands of Nuclear Weapons that have deployed in many, many areas that arent accountable under the new start treaty. He very specifically lists the platforms and weapons included in that treaty and every else is out and from the moment russia signed the treaty theyve been building weapons outside of that treaty. I think we have to make sure when we sit down with russia we talked about all the Nuclear Weapons that are out there. Isnt it foolish to think about sitting down with the Nuclear Power and saying, okay, well talk about these but overhear all these new weapons they dont really matter. Let me tell you, every Nuclear Weapon matters but there is no such thing as a tactical Nuclear Weapon. It is not. When i see doctor and out there in russia about the employment of the weapon, it scares the heck out of me. That will not be tactical but strategic and root responded to any strategic way. That is a place you dont want to be on which means when you sit down with the russians you need to have everything on the table. Those will be aspects of new start. I wont tell you exactly the discussions going on but those are the pieces of the puzzle. Very helpful. A few more from the audience. What changes are being contemplated for changes to the unified command plan to integrate space force for example. Where will the people come from . It is Pretty Simple and the space force is not [inaudible] space force is a service and the way the United States military structure are services that organize train and enforcements and those that operate endorsements on the space force you have organized training and equipment and give them to Space Command and the other combatant commanders, by the way, to operate as a unified command structure. The changes that will happen in the unified command plan will be expansion of u. S. Space command was once abilities as we continue to go out in the space force itself does not change that. With the space force changes is how we train our people, build our people, equip our forces, build our stuff and that is what this resource will do and how they focus on that and i ask a question a while ago about congressional oversight. Oh my gosh, if you read the law the congressional oversight is intense. Like every 60 days you have to be up there explaining this. Why is it that way . It is that way because congress does not want the bureaucracy to be out of control. And given our nature as bureaucrats because theres a bureaucratic nature and every one of us that lived in the pentagon and i hate that with a passion but it does exist and step one of the 12 step process. Youve got to realize you are that because otherwise you will not be able to fix it and so we are that. We have to figure out how to stay out of our own way. I talked about 16000 airmen moving in the space force right now, 16000, marine corps is 187,000 roughly, that the other Smaller Service ten times bigger than the space force. If we create a staff over top of the space force that is a small staff like the marine corps it is by definition ten times bigger than the force itself so it will be a general for every or whatever we call that person and im not using the term and im not going to in the in that direction but we will figure it out. Im not going there. Thank you for that. [laughter] but we will figure out that kind of structure but Congress Wants to be sure we dont and i think that is good but what i hope and i will have a role in it because i will be part of the space governance process is what we see congress is our expiration of how we are meeting our intent and we dont require them to engage very often and we have a structure to do that and we know this is we know what you are looking at and here are the elements and we have to update dad, walk over six days and say here where we are now and it wont be so bad. We will have to figure that out but getting there and making sure we dont create this bureaucratic element over the top is really important because what the problem is in space is we have a threat. It is a war fighting domain in our program to figure out how to deal with the threat of the war fighting culture. That should be the whole focus and all the other stuff, all the over head should not be that big. That is why putting in the air force was so ported to be and became important to the Vice President because otherwise the overhead you have to create too great a separate service would be enormous. Just more generally, quickly, on your unified command plan, its required on some been a couple of years. Will be see a need or we on that schedule . I will just i will give you the generic piece. We had an interim change [inaudible] and that was done and put the basic functions underneath and the rest of the stuff will be done under the normal unified command plan update and then i think is scheduled for later this year roughly and that is when the rest of the stuff will come in but we had to have an interim change to establish u. S. Space command last. Last question. Its about partnerships on this issue in this particular question from Silicon Valley and i welcome you to talk more generally about how you are thinking about bringing in partnerships and how will you take lessons from Silicon Valley that succeeded because it rejects regimentation and control . I guess there are two parts of the question and one is the partnership and its not just Silicon Valley but the commercial partnership across the board and allied partnerships. We need to be more aggressive and partnering with our allies. Thats across all domains. We have to be more aggressive and understand how to bring those pieces together but if you look at how to integrate Silicon Valley structure its not just in Silicon Valley because its in cambridge and in seattle and in la and i will just use the space x model, space x was an interesting dynamic in the way they worked with the United States air force. And i lived that from the time i was in the pentagon as a two star all the way through my experience as a fourstar Space Command with a little bit of a stretch, and i will tell you that what space x had to do to effectively do business with the United States air force is embarrass us in public. When they embarrassed us in public no Service Secretary likes to be embarrassed in public and they look at us and say hey, i dont like that, go fix it. But the interesting thing about that partnership is and i hope its not lost in history but that turned into a mutually Beneficial Partnership because we actually, we, the United States air force, im joined now but i still wearing air force uniform and im proud of that but we in the United States air force helped teach space ask what Mission Insurance really was. What it took to actually build a rocket that would work every time, thats a hard thing to do. Space x taught us that you can do that in a commercial model and go fast in the two are not mutually exclusive. It was difficult for our culture to accept that but also difficult for their culture to accept that and it was the merging of the culture that created a great partnership. And that pushed out into the broader launch specter, including the united launch line set us to be reflective and we need to take those and transition those pieces. If you look right now think in history, and 20 2007 the United States air force had to work with lockheed and boeing to basically create a comedy calleh industry in this country was about dead. We werent going to have our own access to space and we were almost on the verge of having to go overseas to provide access to space. Look at where we are today. I talked about china fortyyear story and that 12 year story is almost as are markable and we went from a dead industry to now the industry that leads the world and commercial launch and leads the world and every element building an entire different structure that is robust and multiple partners in so many people involved and that is remarkable. If you want to figure out how to work with Silicon Valley have to figure out how to take advantage of their techniques, their political facts and insert your own, i will call it mission assurance, because the thing about literary capability is when you call upon it has to work. The interesting thing about a commercial company as if they have a product that doesnt work they are not in business very long. Its ultimately the same motivation and then if you are an American Company there something about an American Company that wants america to lead the world. Does not matter whether commercial, military, you want american to lead the world and is a good thing so you put those pieces together and mix the strength of both and learn from each other and i spent a lot of time in the last year because of abstract, got Nuclear Command responsibility in Silicon Valley and in la and in cambridge looking at companies and understanding how they do business and its amazing. There is a partnership that is right there but we just have to figure out how to do it. General, thank you for your time today and for your leadership of this incredible military that we have. Please join me in a round of applause. [applause] [inaudible conversations] 2020 democratic president ial candidates joe biden, pete buttigieg, Amy Klobuchar and lisbeth warn deliver remarks of this years alleged native conference from the Iowa State Education Association union in des moines. Much like the saturday beginning at 10 25 eastern on a cspan, online at cspan. Org or listen live for the free cspan radio app. For the third time in history a president is on trial in the u. S. Senate. Watch live tuesday at 1 00 p. M. Eastern on cspan2, as the Senate Begins at the trial with a vote on rules but the Senate Impeachment trial of president trump, live unfiltered coverage on cspan2, on demand at cspan. Org impeachment and listen for the free cspan radio app. Up next on cspan2, House Oversight Committee Hearing on the 2020 senses. We hear from representatives from minority and rural groups about their concerns about getting an accurate population count. [inaudible conversations]

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