That we cant just take a country club view, winners and losers, this would be donald trump, i dont care about them. Ive got my cadillac, all is well in the world. On a lot of the policy proposals nancy makes on the left, i agree. I may not quite agree with the scale she wants to do them on but we agree that we should help poor people and pregnant women and so forth, that there should be not a fist in peoples face but an open hand of help and that is perfectly consistent with what we unfortunately called capitalism. The ordinary capitalists transaction, we buy a cup of coffee and for one thing for sure act of buying a cup of coffee is mutually advantageous in both people are happy about it but furthermore youll notice in your own life that if you make a habit of going to that coffee shop you eventually become friends. Commerce creates friendship the way church creates friendship. Or College High School class. They are not forcing each other to do things. They are allowed to say no and out of that comes what the french in the eighteenth century called sweet commerce and that is right whereas the coercion necessary for most activities of the state, that is the nasty stuff. Youve got to pay your taxes or we will put you in jail, threats from the irs and having a minor nonlegal dispute with the irs right now as so many of us do. I dont like coercion, i never have. You say you dont like capitalism, the philosophy. Its not the philosophy. Is the word i dont like. The word capitalist was used and modified by marx to mean not just rich and investors which is what the word meant in french around 1800. To mean this whole group of people who are the bosses and then after marx capitalism in german became the characterization of our commercial society. It is a terrible word. Academically and intellectually, scientifically because it has convinced economists, conservative left, whatever, marxist anyone else capital accumulation is the spring of our commercial economy and it is not. You need investment and sunlight and so on but it comes from the spring and the spring in modern life or old life too, it is expanded in importance, is innovation, human creativity and this is a view of economics i am coming to take, the kind of economics ive done for many years is misleading because it looks at the capital, we economists call it today. We want the c for other things, and i thought capitalism was motivational, that it did things. I was speaking in brazil for bankers and said to them maybe what they dont like that what you do is very good, you choose among the creator but you are not the creator. You say this is a good idea, i will make a loan to that and that is appropriate and important and necessary but its not the idea. The idea that is why freeing people under liberalism, first prefor men, then slaves, and slowly women gave people whatever, right down to the freeing of transgender people, all of that works to encourage, bringing courage to people to be creative and it has had this amazing effect since 1800s. The real ability to buy stuff and go to the university as increased by a factor of 13, 3000 . Not 100 , 200 , 300 and that is from the release of human creativity in free society. We are having a debate about capitalism versus socialism in this country and it is not the first time we have had this debate. It has been going down since the middle of the nineteenth century. The kids who say lets try socialism, bernie, we love you, bernie. I dont hate bernie, who could hate bernie . Hes a very charming person. He was a freshman at the university of chicago in 1960. I was a freshman at harvard college, we didnt know each other at the time but at the time we have more or less the same opinion about capitalism. I prefer to call it innovation. We both wanted to overthrow capitalism. He was more systematic than i was. I had read half of the communist manifesto and reckoned that was enough, not quite true. I have read a good deal of marx and lenin who was a hero of mine when i was 16. We have the same opinion then. And i learned stuff and he didnt. He has the same opinion he had in 1960. People say use consistent. He is consistently wrong. Weve tried socialism. As i said, socialism appropriately and efficiently works in a family. It works among small groups of friends and should. I buy a pizza to share with 5 of my friends and say i paid for this pizza i am going to eat it all. Thats not what friends do but in a big society, 330 million people, making everything into a family doesnt work. Doesnt mean you dont have charity and wants to help each other, doesnt mean to fence clock, terrible capitalist with blood running from his mouth, now. Thats not how capitalists are which i think i established in my first book of these three and its not what made the economy rich which is what i established in the second volume and it is not the future and past of our society which i argued in the third book. Also appearing on in depth was author and former Trump Administration officials sebastian gorka. His book is the war for americas all. Is part of his discussion from january of this year. The second half of what was missing under the Obama Administration is the idea, not the idea the other about policy platform that ideology is irrelevant, that terrorism is the result of poverty or disenfranchisement. At the beginning of the Obama Administration, john brennan who had become the president s cia director said terrorism is the result of upstream, poverty and lack of education. If that were true half of india would be terrorists. Half of china would be terrorists and they are not. As a result of that flawed analysis the Obama Administration has the concept when we find the bad guys we kill them and we will win. It was exquisite whack him all. The idea the president of the United States had a secure tablet on which he had the socalled threat disposition matrix on which the locations of individual terrorist mastermind would be shared with him and he would decide which terrorist we should kill today, that is sheer insanity. Imagine eisenhower, churchill actually choosing which commander to kill . That is not the job of the president. When we arrived in the white house we inherited 420 obama holdovers in the National Security council, tiamat how many worked in the National Security council under eisenhower . 55. Nobody can tell me eisenhowers load was less complicated than our globe today. Under Ronald Reagan it was only 75 individuals. What they had done is replicated government at the white house, they made what should have been strategic a tactical function. Most importantly they missed the ideology. Rich saudi engineering students dont become suicide bombers on 9 11 because they are poor or uneducated, these are people with him as. The head of al qaeda is an m. D. The Obama Administration says ideology is irrelevant, this administration sees it differently, if you want to understand where we are going, read the president s which from regards to our muslim allies, his incredible speech in warsaw when he talks about our enemy being evil. Its not disenfranchised with the poor, it is evil ideology just as fascism was an ideological threat, just as the soviet union was an ideological threat, global jihadist him is about those who subscribe to the grd ideology and the only way for humans to live is under a global caliphate. When you hear the broadcasts about what happened to general soleimani there is a prediction this could lead to world war iii. Quite stunning now in the last 72 hours world war iii was trending on social media. Was world do these people live in . Do they really think when somebody comes up with a criticism the best place to start is take politics out of it. What is the individual critic positing . That we shouldnt have killed soleimani . How is that better . A man whose hands are drenched in the blood of 603 us service men and women, has been responsible for the maiming of thousands of others, this man who we knew according to exquisite intelligence was on the cusp of initiating operations and three countries that would have killed hundreds, not to mention arab and muslim allies, leaving that man alone to do his business is better in what world . Anybody who is not cheering for when obama killed osama, when we took out baghdadi, isnt cheering when a murderous incarnate evil individual like soleimani is killed by hellfire strike need to examine their conscience because i dont care what your politics are what god you pray to, dont care if you are an atheist or you go to bed with what your skin color is you need to examine your conscience if you think that person didnt deserve to become a pile of ashes. How did you get to know donald trump . I thought i was at the pinnacle of my career. I have special regard for our devil dogs. I was in my third year teaching at the war college, preparing for class before Corey Lewandowski who said im the Campaign Manager for candidate trump, summer of 2015 and he said mister trump is preparing for the fool gop debate on National Security. What i consider meeting with candidate trump and helped prepare him for that debate. I said sure. I flew to new york, went to trump tower, to his office, sat down with him, closer than we are at his desk and gordy is in the corner. We had this incredible blue sky discussion on Security Issues from the civil war right up to basis, to Nuclear Weapons and halfway through the discussion he did a classic trump is in, stopped the discussion dead, looked at corey in the corner and said i like this guy, lets i him and asked me to become a consultant to the Trump Organization and i prepared policy be briefs for his debate and i got to know general mike flynn who had his Transition Team and became part of the once theyre only two candidates left i became part of the official president ial Transition Team and finally was offered the job from Deputy Assistant to the president for strategy which i stood at 12 0 one on january 20th. Us and how long . August. Host you ask 7 months . You have to ask obama that. I was on vacation in new england in the middle of the forest were a friend texted me and said have you seen the news . Now . Im cut off from the world i would like not to be plugged in and went to an area where i could check the internet and i saw that steve bannon had resigned out of the blue. He was my immediate boss, there is only one leg between me and the president , steve was chief strategist and without telling me, steve said im leaving. In the two months prior to that it had become clear to me the new National Security adviser hr mcmaster was not a fan of mine. He was not on the National Security council but i was always present for cheap meetings regarding isis, china and russia and i was being left of the invitations to classified meetings once hr become National Security adviser. I knew i was being boxed out, then my immediate political top cover resigned and i had a tough decision, my wife and i stepped down and i want to do i stay in the white house, pretty good friends paid for by the us taxpayers, to be consistently boxed out by somebody who has issues with your july support the make America Great again agenda from the outside and as i wrote in my letter to the president , right now the antimaga forces are in a sentence in the white house, i would like to serve on the outside and i can better do so and the president agreed and now i have a National Radio show called America First across the nation, more than 1 million followers on social media so my decision was shaped by the belief that where i fit is not important. Its the agenda, making America Great again, bringing us back to that place reagan called the shining city on the hill and right then i could best do that on the outside and it has worked out in the last 2 years. The most recent book is the war for americas all. Why do you open that book with your daughter at Trinity College . It is one of the reasons, i experienced an event that shook me to my marrow and i had to ask my daughters permission to write that chapter and she cleared it for me. My daughter graduated from Trinity College last may. It had been a tough four years for her, she was involved in the accident that made the National News when just before the term began, the semester began, there were children in the college building, they were on the deck of the building on the third floor and as soon as she stepped out, all three decks disconnected from the building and collapsed with children on each death, nobody was killed but very serious injuries, my daughter sustained narrative damage, despite that she persevered, was the captain of the crew team, had four jobs in college running the coffee bar, and she was invited to join a new institute at trinity created by a handful of conservative professors because trinity is very hardcore left and they wanted to celebrate and propagate the values of judeochristian civilization as churchill did. That was the last straw i guess for the social justice warriors and two weeks before graduation they took my daughters photograph and on social media on posters around the campus, they put her name, her visage and underneath, this is the face of white supremacy. Why . Because she was my daughter. Despite the fact that this girl had help make women, minority women when she was doing a Research Project on those who had been abused financially by their partners, their husbands. When it came to graduation i was very trepidations. I didnt want to cause a scene. I knew there were many parents who were probably not Trump Supporters so when i arrived that sunny day to the quad i didnt fit with my family. I sat under a tree so they wouldnt be any distractions from what should have been my daughters celebration and it was all fine until after the ceremony my daughter received her diploma thrown in the air and i decided to make my way back to my wife and my mother in law and my daughter and in the throng i was separated from everyone. A girl walks up to me this is the meat of the opening of the war for americas so, maybe 19 years old, maybe 85 pounds dripping wet and she looked me in the eye and said i use sebastian corker . That works for donald trump in the white house, i smiled, extent of my hand, said yes, nice to meet you and i have to edit things. In that case, if you, ufing nazi. I had been through the mill in the white house but never had somebody living in the most successful, powerful, freest nation in the world do that to me in front of hundreds of witnesses. Once i found my composer i said im not going to let this lie, not with my family back there. The mother, grandmother was standing there and i looked her in the face and i said the hell do you think you are . My parents as children suffered under nazi occupation in central europe. After that my father under communist dictatorship was arrested and tortured and imprisoned, the hell do you think you are to call me a nazi . The girls mother was clearly shocked, her jaw dropped and said that you really say that to this man . That is why i wrote the war for americas all, a little girl born and bristling in the freest nation in the world with a grin like the joker in batman looked at her mother and me and said yes i did. That is frightening. It is frightening that according to the victims of communism, 72 of american millennials would like to live in a communist or socialist country, this after the fact that we know if you read the black book of communism, at least 100 million human beings were exterminated in the name of karl marx and his communist ideology. I spent 20 years in the National Security domain, specialized in nonstate actors, the strategy of jihadist, counterterrorism and now the last three years have been a moment for me, the scales have fallen from my eyes and i realize the greater threat we face is the falsification of history and indoctrination of a whole generation of americans. Host Saul Lewinsky, rule number one, live by the rule of personal destruction, treat your adversaries as inhuman, deserving the respect or compassion. They have used it effectively. The Democrat Party, the socalled squad, the four horse women of the democrat apocalypse, nancy pelosi with impeachment, chuck schumer, Saul Lewinsky is the most influential individual with regard to american politics that nobody talks about. I reintroduce elements of Hillary Clintons dissertation from wellesley that she wrote on Saul Lewinsky when she was working for Saul Lewinsky, theres only the original dissertation, i reproduce element of it in the appendix of the war for americas all. When you last 3 years, you see a man like donald trump who has been the most feel a somatic president since 1948, who moved our embassy to jerusalem, recognized jerusalem after 23 years of broken promises, has the closest relationship you can imagine with the Prime Minister of israel, to call that man and antisemite, a bigot, a racist, the same person whose effective Prison Reform especially for minorities has created the lowest unemployment for hispanics and blacks since recordbreaking began, that assault lewinsky tactics, triangulation we were taught by andrew breitbart, separate, isolate, destroy, the politics of personal destruction. Remember the pamphleteers of the american revolution, never to this degree. We didnt target children. We didnt target the president s children, we didnt go after the first ladies because they were wearing the wrong shoes as they got on the helicopter. When people talk about trump derangement syndrome there is substance to that because the level of demeaning the other person to the point that you deny their humanity, that is very unhealthy. That is disturbing, you see that in totalitarian regimes. If you look at soviet russia, if you look at the 30s in germany, when you start to dehumanize your opponent, not to discuss policy issues, that way leads the road to the labor camps in the gulag and that is why i am convinced that sadly the Democrat Party of Scoop Jackson and john f. Kennedy is dead and has been taken over by extremists, radicals. How is it you have about antisemites like ilhan omar and Rashida Tlaib saying israel is evil, it advertised the west. Ilhan omar tweeted two days ago that the president murdered a Foreign Government official. What . Soleimani was a mass murderer. Is goebbels, is hamel are a Foreign Government official to this woman . We are living in dark dark times but as Ronald Reagan taught us, i consider myself to be a reagan we are happy warriors, we are fueled by love, love of country, love of liberty and what i see on the left, another reason i wrote the war for americas all is a movement that has become defined, fed, fueled by hatred. Perhaps hatred of self, there might be psychological underpinnings but hatred of what they think america is which is not imperious to colonial force that the freest nation that has helped others in their freedom. Whenever the Democrat Party, the left, the fake news Industrial Complex has tried to manufacture charges against the president whether it was regards to russian collusion every time it has resulted back onto them. The host of the morning so in dc said it is reminiscent of the final scene in the hunt for red october when the bad soviet sub commander thinks he is going to sink Sean Connerys submarines but the torpedoes circle back and think his own vessel. The fact that Hillary Clinton and the dnc paid a former foreign secret agent to gin up a dossier of russian propaganda to use in a 5 the court secret warrant to spy on the Trump Campaign and Trump White House and the come after us in connection to russia is the most of the societies, the fact they accuse the president of some kind of malfeasance with ukraine in a phone call we have all seen the transcript of an which there was nothing untoward, when Hunter Bidens son was taking home between 5080, 000 per month from a corrupt company that was investigated by the ukraine in which his fathers point person for the Obama Administration demanded the ukrainians fire that prosecutor before he gave them 1 billion, all of these circle things like a boomerang and you are right in one thing, crowd strike is the one thing the democrats in dnc and hillary and comey and brennan dont wish to talk about the idea that a company, that google has great interest in, that was working in the ukraine was connected to the dnc. We need to get to the bottom of that but if you believe in justice i have good news for you, william barr, john durham are on the case and they are unflappable and they are unstoppable so stay tuned. This tweet for you, how much of an influence is clausewitzs book on war a part of your own philosophy . Great question. It is one of my three favorite books. I break it down a great deal in my second book why we fight. If you are really interested in National Security and strategy there are two classic authors you must be familiar with. You must be familiar with on war and you must be familiar with the chinese strategist sun tzus the art of war because they complement each other. It was never meant to be published during the authors life. It was published posthumously by his widow but it is the most influential text on how the west does National Security, how the west system of nationstates thinks about National Security. It is not always right but the concept of friction, center of gravity, are eternal the applicable. Sun tzu is incredibly important because it breaks you out of your eurocentric way of thinking and go straight how other cultures have very different ways about thinking with regard to National Security as a strategy and sun tzu is essential reading if you wish to understand what china is doing against us, even what iran and russia are doing that because russia and iran are asian but because sun tzu is the foundation of the indirect approach, how you take down the more powerful enemies in your self. If you want to start your library of National Security start with clausewitz and sun tzu and build up from there. You are on with author sebastian gorka. Caller something that is bothering me that has been missed or at least not brought up that Vladimir Putin has played the Democrat Party to do his bidding. If the democrats would have coalesced around the president instead of attacking him all of this stuff we have been going through might never have occurred but he knew how stupid these people are and played them like a fiddle. A phrase brought from the cold war, useful idiot, it really is a case of that. When you have most egregious example, when you have a former cia director, john brennan, obamas director of the cia on National Television when he leaves office, use the word treasonous to describe the president of the United States, Vladimir Putin is laughing into his cheerios. Whether or not brennan is being paid by the kremlin is irrelevant, he is doing Vladimir Putin, the targeting of 200 russian mercenaries in syria by our forces, a man who instead of sending blankets to ukraine like obama did send antitank missiles, an individual who instigated the toughest sanction regimes that we have ever seen, that person is treasonous than a puppet of Vladimir Putin, they have a massive return even when they didnt pay these individuals. It is sad ted kennedy had negotiations with the kremlin trying to elicit their assistance to undermine Ronald Reagans reelection. That Democrat Party that was always on the side of the left, on the side of useful idiots, fellow travelers, now they are using donald trump and conservatives beyond the pale. From Sebastian Gorkas book why we fight, russia does not chermacs interest, and may face its own jihadist threat especially from chechnya but that does not mean it is or can be our friend. 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What happens when we have outbreaks of contagious disease we dont really look for the social and political risks, people get sick and then we hope we can throw sufficient vaccines and drugs added to make it go away. It should not be surprising when i talk about ebola, very quickly the animal connection comes into play, as he could, mosquitoes, with people it is bats, the original cause but where this virus lives, it infects somebody and that is how you spread the chain of transmission in humans. Theres nothing about this virus that suggests anything other than a natural mutation and is a reminder that we dont need all kinds of theories of biological warfare to explain something that is natural and to be a wakeup call to all of us that it must be taken seriously. Sunday on afterwords netflix director of inclusion and Michelle King with her book the six. Something i discovered in my own research, everybody is the same because they treated it the same way. People dont have different experiences and with that kind of logic we are not only denying difference but inequality. What charters discussing pandemics at 11 00 eastern it afterwords with Michelle King sunday at 9 00 pm eastern on booktv on cspan2