Ask you this question. You worked for cnn for some 30 years. You have a variety of shows, you are not an orthodox republican, obviously not a liberal democrat. Could you go back into the environment today or what was the formula that allows you to exist for three decades . You have a particular relationship with him . Enlighten us a little bit. It was helpful i joined cnn in 1980 at the beginning, one of the founders of cnn, one of the fortunate ones who was there, i was president of creation, as they say. It was a spectacular place to work because it was something on thought of before ted turner. The global cable news cast and he put it into action and institutionalized it. It was truly remarkable. It changed over time and refounded it in 1980 and by 1984, ted was on the forms, the wealthiest list and have been basically on the verge of bankruptcy three years earlier than when he founded it. His positioned changed and subject hours. We were growing and over time, is, teds commitment to a more liberal approach to the news came far more serious and by 1999, it was clear it would be a tough balancing act but i wasnt so much an advocacy journalist. By 2009 when he, we have our final calling out, not with ten ted time warner, it was a matter of ideology. I was saying, as medical things about george w. Bush, perhaps more than ever said about barack obama. The truth is, they were committed to a different approach. They decided it would be ideological that there was only one point of view instead of many voices. I was the only conservative on the air and obviously that just did not work out. If anything, its gone or to the left rather than journalism or moderation, as you know. One last question before we get to the details of the book, in this three decade evolution of cnn, you sort of broadened more specific interest in business or the economy so why politics, economics . Started a fashion, i watched you during the years years, you had a certain worldview there would not be easily categorized on issues of trade or immigration. Did you ever think it would be a candidate, not a thirdparty candidate but one of them major candidates for the presidency i would dove in with this formula, this ideology you have been over 30 years gravitating to . Did you ever think of Something Like this . Honestly, i didnt think we would see it in my lifetime. I was hoping we would but i have known ted turner, donald trump for as long as i can only ted turner but we werent friends. It was a professional relationship and i watched and set out and by 20 from running for president and i have to tell you, i rejoiced because he was independentminded. He was secular, if you will, he was even agnostic about politi politics, as hes acknowledged. For me, that was exciting because that meant he wasnt with the republican or Democrat Party ideology and philosophy, he was alive with patriots in this country. Every time i hear the expression, White Nationalism in this country, it is nationalism, it is not white, its every color, every creed weve got. Being an american nationalist need to embrace the constitution which is our great assurance of equality, equal opportunity, of respect for all citizens and he embodies that. He truly does so i was very excited to see him run and it brought me back to the republican party. I was an independent, and the fierce independent in most respects. In the book, you outline the signature issues, ensuring immigration is legal, measured, meritocratic and not overwhelming the ability. Getting tough with china, favoring there rather than freetrade, he didnt buy into the idea the industrial midwest played out, very skeptical. As i read the book of these actual military engagements specifically in the cost benefit analysis to play out for us or the region at large but there were other Party Candidates that picked up on some of this, what was it about trump he incorporates these issues within the broader fabric or was it his personality . Why did he succeed when these other third party found failure . Glad you mentioned that because pat was a independent anchor, irrespective of his political preference for republican. He was a conservative. The difference for donald trump as he was beholden to none of the establishment. This was a clash of so many influences in our society, but we are contended with him fundamentally, this is a clash with the problem that controls both political parties, or did until they arrival of donald trump. Donald trump broke through and said i will take on the orthodoxies, i will be the disruptor. You will represent the forgotten man in this country. He pledged to do that and within days, he was doing that. Hes one of those surprises, and delights we rarely have been politics is a man who said what he meant he kept his promises. That drives the left, establishment not because hes taking on this multitrillion dollar Business Roundtable. 135, 140 ceos control a huge part of our gdp. He took on the chamber of commerce cancer. Mantra that freetrade is the boom to the american economy. Its most certainly not. Refinance the rest of the world, wall street did great but one of the reasons working man in this country didnt share in that for 20 years before trump and had silently, discuss opportunity because it was a financial benefit for the elites but not for the middle class, which is the foundation of the country. Your book talk jobs, jobs, jobs and that brings together almost everything in the trump century and its true he had record unemployment for minorities in 2019, i think he got down to 3. 5, almost 3 , or did almost annual gdp. What you say was the left and right, a populace the message of why do you think if he gave, one example, innercity youth for the first time in their lives, they were being their labor was being hit on by employers rather than paying employers. They empowered the powerless, why do you think that empathetic message or attitude never was picked up were never resonated, he didnt really emphasize it, the media didnt like it but why do we not that donald trump was the most empathetic concerned president about the lower and precious . Because he doesnt speak in the same language as the elitists of both parties. They have all for themselves. Its about what they will do, it makes a number of assumptions. They are talking about the dependency of those who are in the innercity, who are low income and that is the basis, a condescension of government that is backed up in the idea that without dependency, what is the role for government . We now have a huge permanent bureaucracy that requires dependency on the part of a good sized number of our people. They got over 65 well, since 1965 when the war on poverty began, we spent over 22 trillion we have everything but measuring bureau, and metrics bureau for success. No one wants to follow up on black youth in the innercity. What happens to them when they go to these Public Schools run by unions rather than by their communities . Is strange world we have created and one that both parties have been perfectly content, until now, to permit to continue status quo in perpetuity. Another thing, creating employment we havent seen in 50 years, is china. You talk about china. Prior to trump, i think everybody felt china, everybody meaning along the elites, china was elite, more concessions, the more we would pay the gratitude on their part and they would democratize and westernize, they would take over the world in a generally way, we would manage to decline. You come along and say trump, stop that but what i am interested in the general idea, you never really thought, as you suggest in your book, but china is all that song determined to will the world but had weaknesses they didnt want to see but never got from the book that you felt it was steamroller or that it was inevitable, this whole plan that you are trying to warn people about what strong action we could stop it. I started 20 years ago talking about the red storm rising, weve gone a quarter century, china had Companies Operating in this nation with only one purpose. That was to seal our military secrets and technology, take it back to china and exploit our neurological advances. They save themselves a lot of money on investing in education, Optical Research and development of their own and subsequent weve built china in some respects, as the president put it, we literally looked at. They are teaching 600 billion a year from us in our intellectual property dealing it. Theyve been running deficits this country from the beginning of their relationship. We been a deficit to them and trade and we have shared our technology openly and willingly as well as permissible he it has been extraordinarily, unprecedented relationship between a wealthy caller and an emerging one. At no time was required of us that we that level that we played. We did it under linton, bush, obama, you couldnt have asked for a trifecta of worst president to stream together in the National Security. It is devastating to look at what we have squandered. We did so with the knowledge joseph, a leftwing nobel prizewinning economist, a brilliant man and he warned us wars in the middle east would amount to. He just didnt give us a sufficient warning. He told us it would cost 3 trillion and it ended up being 6 trillion and counting. In addition to the lives weve lost. Weve gone through a period of madness that is remarkable. It took donald trump to step forward. I love this expression, the range syndrome. Hes the only one who wasnt deranged in the entire city of washington. It is quite something. One of the things you say is how insidious this president is a result of the mba the 5 billiondollar market balances the losses in its domestic viewership of change of the ideology of the mba itself is not critical about the misdemeanors in the u. S. And ignore the colonies and education, found out recently with hollywood that part of the anger, the racial makeup of movies was reaction to the orders currently specific china actors so in your book, you have a lot of ideas but how feasible is it is late day given the insidious presence cant even detect it, sports and entertainment, media, politics because they seem so much more depth than during the cold war. I infer from your question that you are suggesting that we cant change will withdraw yourself and exclusively intertwined with china which is insidiously, as you suggest, enmeshed itself in our economy, our society, even our culture, as you say. Hollywood right now is editing their films, shooting their movies in many cases, with a camp to beijing because they want the International Market to be excited about the product. If no longer for u. S. Audience, its no longer a u. S. Product. It was always an american product before an audience. The product coming out of hollywood now is an international and chinese product and the u. S. Market sort of tagging along behind it. A major change in our society and culture and business of entertainment and media because this gives beijing an inordinate influence, they are being represented in movies in many cases, much more than less traditional American Values and the world knows it, they see it and by the way, they are accepting it. I know it. One thing to talk about is the china life, lets go to the wuhan virus, we can use that. The virus that originated in wuhan, china. All of the narratives we were told that it didnt really emerge until january when we knew it was known far earlier in the fall of 2019, it emerged accidentally and what market, although the narrative has been discredited. The consensus became out of the lab but whether it was accidental or whatever the narrative goes, what was their attitude, why did they allow direct flights say for 12 days after google from wuhan anywhere else in china, forget about the origins or whether it was accidental or intentional, was the mindset about it that unleashed this thing from wuhan and destroyed western economy in a way we never thought would be possible . As you say, this virus was unique. Was engineered . Still cant say scientifically with evidence, or judgment what it was. Was a natural . Was manmade . But we do know for a fact whether accidental or engineered, communist Chinese Government knew for months that it was transmission transmissible to humans and they knew very early on that it was deadly. They hid those truths from their own people, of course but very importantly, they hid the truth from the rest of the world. The who, the cdc and what people may not realize is the u. S. Public Health Institutions and some of the best doctors in all the world are great friends and colleagues, doctors in china now and thats fine but we also took part in funding for research, think of this. We also helped them design their version of our cdc and there was a certain overconfidence of american doctors that they would be forthcoming. They had a professional, medical relationship with individuals that they thought would obviate communist institution in beijing or wuhan. They truly believed it. My discussions from january on, with those doctors, they were very, very certain they would know best about what would be going on in wuhan. Even as the buyers was unleashed by the Chinese Communist party. On the world, an unsuspecting world. I declared on my show that it was a viral pandemic two weeks before the who had moved to that. The cdc wouldnt call it a pandemic because the who hadnt called a pandemic. The madness of this moment is, like so much of this, it is stunning. We have so much to catch up with. You suggest in your book that the fact we were in Election Year 2020 and engaged in trade work with china at the time, served as multipliers of the world hysteria or divisiveness back home and they inadvertently, or by design, there was this divisiveness and hysteria all play into chinas hand in a certain way because we were weeping the western world, were not able to focus in a unified matter what they were doing and saying and what the who was, it was coincidental we were in this trade war you spend so much time eloquently defining and you say there was this virus right in the middle, historically, it is very odd. Its very odd because its counter there counter events that are not necessarily in conflict as far as the chinese are concerned, you can almost see the depth and chinese intelligence in all of this. It is not a regional possibility of this engineered and purposeful in the chinese interest because they have managed inadvertently or otherwise, to have taken down the economies beautiful, the United States, all other chief competitors in the global marketplace, they have killed hundreds of thousands of people across the world, infected others, the effect of the infections, we dont know but we do know the chinese have been the beneficiary a little they are the only ones responsible for this infection, this pandemic thats claimed so many lives second so many millions and costs trillions of dollars in lost gdp for the world. Not just the u. S. So im very suspicious of both the coincidence, convenience of just who benefited from it because we also know the chinese consciously shut down travel outside of wuhan effectively, encouraged International Travel to europe, the United States. By march, we were having the virus come back into this country from europe as well as from china and asia so not suspicious of all this, one is it paying attention and i personally dont get lost whether or not they engineered the virus, the reality is that they made an unconscionable decision to not warn the world of what they do was a deadly virus they unleashed upon it. That is a moral responsibility, it is a conscious moral decision and moral decision they took. Another thing that even characterizes the chapters on domestic policy and trump achievement in the economy jobs, deregulation is this theme you keep going back to globalism versus nationalism and when you look on Foreign Policy, new look at the world and see the United States withdraw from the paris, the court, the u. S. Withdraws from the aryan deal, u. S. Job owns nato in a way that really got people angry and upped their contributions to make to present and suddenly we move the embassy to jerusalem, we say heights are not going back to syria. Now we see this new nexus between the gulf states and israel and iran seems to be out in the cold. What is your assessment not just on ideology but efficacy . What he did he do when he decided to pursue a better friend, no worse enemy attitude, the trump administration, is globalist we are all part of the brotherhood of man . Saw the absurdities of the decisions being taken. I hear some people sort of dismissed that as a businessmans hard edge reasoning. I call it just intelligence and knowledge of what is actually transpiring internationally. The first act, by the way, by this congress, the first act after a founding was the tariff act. He exploded the idea that a tariff would destroy the economy. Its interesting to think about things we dont hear being spoken about in the public arena anymore as a result of this president , you dont hear that anymore. You dont even hear the expression free trade, do you . Now the whole country knows the chamber of commerce, Business Roundtable were lying through their teeth and they said it was hardly a zero game, this makes us all rich and wealthy and powerful, we built up a huge external trades that and lost trillions of dollars in Economic Growth as a result of deficits, particularly with china. He applied that same reasoning and clear rightthinking to the wall with mexico, at the same time, negotiating president of mexico joined forces and put tens of thousands of mexican troops on the borders of to stop the illegal immigration. For two separate advancements in the interests of peace and he cant even get the national leftwing media to acknowledge what effect has having been made. He is fighting against more evil, seditious forces arrayed against him whether its in the media, whether it is in the bodypolitic or his own party or crying out loud. And he has to fight them every day and win. What youre saying resonates or reflects the subtitle of your book, how the president changed the course of history forever so if i follow you youre saying as much as hes opposed he hit on the reality of truth thats convinced even his enemies so that after 12, whether its a republican or democrat youre not going to hear a call that says dont pressure data, let them say what they want or lets get back into the climate record for the iran deal, weve got to get it right back or lets watch out for there is goal states and their nexus with israel or maybe we should stop the sanctions on iran or lets stop the wall. Youre suggesting he did things whose very success convinced his enemies almost as if he said theemperor has no clothes and now the dialectic has been changed do you think . Without question. Id phrase it somewhat differently. When hes demonstrated is is the assumptions of the liberal Foreign Policy establishment have been dashed by this president s successes because he did in some cases the opposite of what they would recommend or what they would expect or insist upon. If its nato, how dare you suggest the United States wont pay that bill but we have great benefits that result from our deficit spending to support our wealthy european friends or in the case of the middle east, you have to sate all the palestinian dreams, desires and wishes before you even begin to deal with organizing and aligning the interests of the air out of state in theregion. He did the latter, the result is bahrain, the United Arab Emirates and we know that from his statements that five other nations are waiting to join in a new relationship withisrael. Working together and assuring peace in the region. And yes, confounding and ran which has been not only the largest state sponsor of terrorism but is responsible for killing a third of our troops in iraq. And never being held to account. What youre saying is if joel weisman were to be president and he said trunk was all wrong, weve got to put this these palestinians back into the center of all middle east discussion really got to reopen that iran deal with got to be skeptical of this israeli, that would have no residents now because he change the entire conversation by his success to such a degree it would be very hard to put Humpty Dumpty back togetheragain. I believe that you and i hope that. The, amongst the many variables that are this political year, one of them is the national leftwing media. I have become a fifth column operating in this country rather than the fourth estate. Theyre not performing as watchdogs. They are working as political arms, action arms of both the Democratic Party and simultaneously, the corporations that own them. At t owns cnn, comcastowns nbc. Disney, with all the cute little mickey mouse pictures, it puts a nasty reporter into the White House Briefing room every day who doesnt look nearly as cute as mickey mouse. And they have an agenda and when the president told fox about fake news victor, he is not talking about in my opinion adequately a structure that the American People need to understand. We had such a powerful consolidation of media power in the hands of a powerful consolidation of economic power. Whether it be these vast Media Companies and Technology Companies and then Silicon Valley which, they have the power, the economic power to absolutely block so much of what any other president s agenda. It just wouldnt happen. Its the reason it hasnt happened until this man had the courage and the vision to stand upand say this is not right. Its why his call for antitrust actions against the group of Technology Companies, against Silicon Valley and insisting there be a change in the relationship to these monster Media Companies that control fake news. The American People are always getting to it and i think these polls that show that they are somehow dullards and will buy into the idea of the biden harris ticket i think is fantasyland. You have a chapter on that in the book on big tech and i think your argument is that you said i dont want to use the word twice they have an insidious way of morphing the news whether the order of a Google Search or d platforming a twitter account that the biasseems to be predictably oneway. And with 4 million, 4 trillion in market capitalization on facebook and google and apple, all can find another place, you talk about regulating and stopping that monopoly and its almost as if that hasnt happened to cause big tech says to liberals, this money is at your disposal and they say to conservatives, you are a libertarian free market. Laissezfaire so its against your philosophy to even regulate it and then they find that soft spot between the two parties and then in your book you save that something has to be done before this octopus strangles all of us or its daily utility that we all depend on and what do youthink we can do about it . First, we have to identify just how fast and powerful that octopus really is. Because the interests not only of hollywood and those Media Companies and which extends all the way to those reporters sitting in the White House Briefing room, have a closer alignment in many cases financially with china and beijing and the communist party of china than they do with the United States and interests of this nation. Its amazing to imagine a more, its almost inconceivable to imagine that our government, the United States government is a minor influence on Corporate America to the degree that it is. The ftc, take the regulatory agencies, the ftc, the fcc, you name it. They are basically swarming on a very largeanimal. That is indifferent. Its and this president is trying to reintroduce that alarm with william barr. Only possible countervailing influence against power and that is regulation and the ability to definemarkets and the actors within it. Which has not been done for a very long time. You have to go back to microsoft which was a failed antitrust action. But it nonethelesswas on the last one that was even attempted. This after this election, i think youre going to see a highly energetic donald trump administration. Taking on these critically important issues you because the nation depends on you absolutely depends on it. One of the things that im not sure if your readers will agree or disagree that you dwell a lot and focus on Interest Ratesand the Federal Reserve as does donald trump. I think maybe you could clarify some of the confusion that i have that when i started farming, im seeing this farmhouse in my greatgrandmother bill, i thought we were getting pretty good production credit rates at 14 percent. This was 1980 and every time i buy a bag of silver would pay two dollars and i go in and i see that six or seven prices have been crossed out, 210, 220, 230 oh that was how inflationary high Interest Rate but now, essentially people are purchasing homes at three, 31 4, 3 and a half. Your middleclass citizen thats not familiar with real estate for the stock market, if you count moderate inflation into the calculus theyre getting zero on their passbook accounts. Yet getting up to 27 trillion dollars is financed basically and has manageable because we have de facto zero rates inflation but you still seem to be worried at the fed tends to want to raise Interest Rates too high at particular times when its not warranted or the expansion of the economy and the threat of deflation. The answer is, i have a simple view on Interest Rates as it pertains to the Federal Reserve monetary policy. No one, no economist ever envisioned the Federal Reserve would raise rates for any other reason and motivation for price stability and the onset of inflation. And this fed under Jerome Powell raised Interest Rates four times after the was put in place by donaldtrump. And then the leftwing media started clucking because President Trump was saying wait a minute, youre trying to kill this economy because it will benefit me in my reelection bid. That was really what he was saying and it will shut down three percent gdp growth. It will all her the Job Opportunities in this country horribly. And he was right. And then the leftwing media wouldnt acknowledge it. They raise rates four times, trying to do what . I have no idea. Miltonfriedman didnt teach me that one. My professors didnt teach me why you would raise rates in anticipation of a market that you could not accurately predict all anything beyond six months. Thats what they kepttrying to do and Jerome Powell was after all aninvestment banker. Is not an economist. We got lots of lovely economists in the Federal Reserve but economists are not real road renowned because they are typical particularly pressing into an accurate and theyre forecasting. They are the inverse and you have to follow markets if your in banking or if youre in the central bank and Jerome Powell was doing none of that so i applaud the president again mightily because he was right to stop this nonsense. He did and Jerome Powell while he would never acknowledge the president was right, he combed down and it ended and then he announced a new policy at the Federal Reserve which no one wondered also resembled precisely what donald trump had been saying since the absolute incipient pointof their little disagreement over Interest Rates. Without the presence of inflation what in hell are you doing and that by the way puts trump in a majority of one of the president of the United States against wall street, the economist of wall streetall of whom more looking to make money on a little extra volunteer volatility that would be introduced by further Interest Rate increases. And the stunning economic historians who said all my god, president s cannot just sully the great pristine white marble of the Federal Reserve by criticizing it. Thats over, thats done. Wont happen. Youll see president s even more energetic in the future im sure as they should be. George w. Bush, as you point out numerous times and you were very worried about it doubled the debt, almost doubled it. Its controversial, we know that barack obama then doubled that debt and when we went into the Bush Administration when he started with 4 trillion and then we went into 1 trillion and went up to 17 trillionand now donald trump , hes running of four to 5 billion , trillion dollar deficit this year for the stimulus. At what point do Interest Rates have to be de facto near zero and are you worried about servicing that magnitude of a debt and while trump got more revenue from the stimulus and his deregulation tax cuts, he wasnt successful in proving the cost of thefederal government so where do we end up if we dont do something . Thats a great question, i wish i could give you the exact answer victor i do know that were in a place we are weve never been before but not because of fiscal policy choices. We happen to make in pursuit of a brilliant strategy. This was all reactionary to a virus that tore this economy up. We watched as the president would saythe most beautiful economy. Weve ever seen in this countrys history. Torn asunder by a virus from will on china and this is, you know, we dont go looking for wars but sometimes wars find us. It was the better america. We didnt go looking for this virus but it found us area and i cant even imagine what other choice we had other than to stimulate other than to add trillions of dollars to the Federal Reserves Balance Sheet to assure liquidity. Adequately to get through it. I believe were coming up and i dont think we by the way should be putting another 3 trillion on to the stimulus bill as nancy pelosi wants. Its horrible to think that were talking about the difference between 3 trillion and 1 trillion. Once you Start Talking trillions you know weve got a big problem. One of the things ive noticed and i was reading your book this week is almost everyother page , you point out the role of the courts. Either whether it was a travel ban or whether donald trump was about the wall or an executive. He was challenged on the courts and the expectation was that after 2017, or during 2017 trumps opponents had lost control of both houses of congress and one of the ways to check his executive power would be to turn to the courts and they did so as you pointout exactly. Now with this staff passing the beta, we have this frenzied looking at right before the election. Each side, theres a binding rule andthe mcconnell, theres no no role other than u. S. Constitution. The Senate Advises and consents which is a popular part onscreen confirms or doesnt. The democrats lost the senate and 14, 16 and 18. I dont know why harry reid did what he ended the as you remember the Senate Filibuster on judicial planning. And Ruth Bader Ginsburg was very confident that either Hillary Clinton would win or donald trump after four years would not win reelection because when she was much more vigorous and 81, she was 8142, lets say 2013 or 14 when obama had the product senate and he could have easily replaced a distinguished jurist that anyone that didnt happen. Though now this unique situation we have where the president has the senate and a liberal jurist passed away with a desire to be replaced by a liberal jurist from a conservative president with a conservative senate. Where do you put all this together and what you think should happen in this very delicate situation and also a politics of it. If you would just comment, the courts seem to be i think you got a good point that they become almost a legislative branch is more important or has morepower than the executive branch sometimes. I think thats right and i think that we have to somehow restore those constitutional balances. The constitution insists on checks and balances, our founders envisioned those checks being in place. Among three people branches. With the executive leaving leading the government. This has been one of the great revelations over the course of the past two years in particular. Has been the degree to which the federal judiciary has beenpolitically corrupted. John roberts, the chief justice famously said that there are no bush judges were trump judgesor obama judges. Suggesting that there is no partisanship on the part of those judges and justices. Poppycock. We know rightnow, the American People are not fools. You look at who appointed the judge and we look at their decisions and the public court in particular and we know how its going to go whether its right nowgeneral michael flynn. The Justice Department has dropped charges against him. And the courts in dc, the Dc Appellate Court and the Dc District Court judge in this instance reviews to dismiss the charges. This is a man whos been persecuted for 4 years. Forget anything about the rest of the case. There is no prosecutor except the court itself now. This is not envisioned in our constitution is not envisioned in law. Theyre just doing what they want because its politically , in their interest and that stunning stuff. Where we end up with the courts , is going to depend greatly on whether or not we reelect donald trump. Its a essential that we do. And restore original is in to the interpretation by our judges of the constitution. Law. One of the things that you talk about is the opponents of donald trump not to oppose the president without military, first president without military or political experience or a nationalist populist agenda but they seek structural changesi want to change the dialectic or the environment or the landscape itself. Do you see from work to lose in 2020, and he were to lose the senate that we would see things has a Court Packing scheme or the voter contact efforts to end the Electoral College or perhaps statehood to dc and puerto rico because i ask that because the theme of your wonderful book the trump century, how the president change the course of history forever assumes the present system would end within the present system that trump achievements are going to be eventually recognized by both sides because they hit on reality and truth if the system has changed for the structures are modified so we dont have Electoral College or we have 52 states or we have a 15 person supreme court, all of this beginning in 2021, do you see that most structural changes will change the very foundation in which were talking today . Theres another assumption, presumption and entreaty we know all of that as you note. That he wins this election. Because in winning the election, he assures this countrys destiny. Without donald trump in that white house , all bets are off. There is no way that anyone should dismiss what is happening in the part of hate , the Democrat Party as simply rhetoric. As simply a political squabble. This is a battle for the soul of the nation. It is a battle for the direction of the nation and indeed, for whom we will be as a people. And i dont mean to be melodramatic in any way. Its just a fact. You talk about southern puerto rico and dc states, that changes who we are, that changes what we are because that means that the Democratic Party has sufficient power to packthat court. To insist upon a, might as well just simply go straight to totalitarian because that is what the left wants here. They dont want to be bothered by things like law or a constitution. For history or heritage or consistent and constant virtuous values. The idea that a Political Party can threaten death and destruction on the streets of america and still be regarded as a Political Party, to me is nauseating. To see what the Democratic Party has become. My colleagues in media dont for the most part care to talk directly aboutit but i do. Cause i believe thats exactly what were staring at and its a very ugly face indeed in american politics right now. The choices are tough. They really are tough that we are going to have to make over the next several years. And were going to need a tough leader and this president is proving hes tough, hes strong , hes smart as well. By the way, they never want to acknowledge how smart the president is, they say hes got great instincts. He got great judgment, hes a greatleader. Hes smart and he cares about this country. And ill tell you, im praying he wins because thats my way of praying for the country. Its been a fascinating discussion. The book is the trump century. How the president changed the course of history forever. These and other topics we discussed are a lot more in the book. Its an argument that not just that donald trump has achievements that have been underappreciated but that he has achievements in time history will see as a bipartisan consensus and he really destroyed the previous conventional wisdom in a way that even his enemies will have to concede and without lou, thank you so much for coming on cspan book tv and its an honor to interview you. The honor is mine and i thank you so much victor. This program is available as a podcast. All after words programs can be viewed on our website at booktv. Org. Youre watching the booktv on cspan2 every weekend for the latest nonfiction books and authors. Cspan2 created by americas Cable Television companies as a Public Service and brought to you by your television provider. Heres a look at some Publishing Industry news. 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Also in the news, npd bookscan reports print books sales rose over 10 percent for the week ending september 26. Adult nonfiction sales saw another week of positive gains and were led by Bob Woodwards latest book on President Trump. And two books that have been overdue for 48 years had been returned to a british library. The books were sent through the mail and included a note of apology. At todays rates if latefees have been applied they would have totaled 10,000. Book tv will continue to bring you new programs and publishing news you can watch all our past programs anytime book tv. Org. Youre watching book tv on cspan2. Heres a quick lookat our next few programs. Coming up next actress and activist jane fonda offers her thoughts on climate change. Then Manhattan Institute senior fellow James Copeland argues that america is governed by nonelectedagency officials. And later, political activist cafferty jeff argues that corporate monopolies be broken up in order to establish a fair economy and restore political power back to the americanpeople. Consult your Program Guide for more information. Now heres jane fonda. We are so excited to host the incomparable jane fonda for her new book on the Climate Crisis but before we go to the screen id like to introduce annie leonard, executive director of greenpeace usa. Annie played an integral role in helping jane organize the now infamous fire drill friday and was one of the inspirations this book so will rent up first then welcome jane and amber. Its so wonderful to be here. I am delighted to introduce my friends and fellow climate