then he dropped -- once a couple of other people brought the alleged shooter and held the shooter down before he started to help some of those who were severely injured, dr. steven rayle. on the scene. there are going to be heros in this, don. people who risk their own lives to deal with this shooter who simply opened fire and started killing people. >> i thought it was amazing. i heard that interview that you did with that young man and he said the scene wasn't as chaotic on the scene. there are going to be heros in this, don. people who risk their own lives to deal with this shooter who simply opened fire and started killing people. >> i thought it was amazing. i heard that interview that you did with that young man and he said the scene wasn't as chaotic as you would think it would be. people were fairly calm and even a woman jumped in to help and to pull the magazine out of the gun. unbelievable. sadly so many people had to die, wolf. but let's hope and pray that the congresswoman makes it through. among those six fatalities today, a federal judge, john roll presided over the u.s. district court for the district of arizona. this is someone who really worked his way up from the bottom. he started his career as a bailiff in a county court. also killed today in what should have been a routine event was congresswoman giffords' director