ally just the same, giving israel a -- that relationship with hosni mubarak is one that's goifen israel and the past eight prime ministers who has served here during hosni mubarak's term as president has given a sense of stability to israel's what it considers fragile position here in the middle east. >> kevin, it is a fragile position. egypt has played a very strong role, if you will, in calming things down on that border. isra israel's talk about this is a cold peace and all of that, but have they, too, counselled the egyptian government about the need for change, a change in the style of leadership, opening it up to an opposition? or do they even talk about that? >> reporter: well, various prime ministers and the current prime minister, benjamin netten yahoo,