liked to -- dora the explorer and could count to 40 in spanish, which was pretty incredible for her age. she was a great little girl. >> who taught her how to count to 40. >> dora the explorer. from my knowledge, it was her favorite show. >> and how -- how often during that time did you see casey and caylee hugging and showing affection with one another? >> pretty much the whole time. >> holly hughes, a criminal defense attorney, and a former prosecutor. what a story. you have a loving mother, tragic accident, we all heard, though, monday the defense in the opening, that they're saying this was an accident, a drowning in the pool. surprised us. were you surprised by that? >> you know, i think it's the only place they could go, brooke, bear in mind -- >> an accident.