swash buckling approach to commerce and conspicuous cons e consumep shun. >> we definitely do have become celebrities just from being rich. i'll take the trumps as an example. their celebrity is generally that they are rich. >> donald trump has ventured into gambling and professional football and says he could negotiate a nuclear disarmament treaty with the soviet union. >> they say he's land hungry, money hungry, power hungry. >> the power is nonsense. i love the creative process. >> what about trump plaza, trump city, trump castle? >> it sells, mike. all i know -- >> that's all it is? >> it has nothing to do with the ego. all i know is it sells. >> what do you do? >> security. >> we don't need security. go outside, we have people outside. >> leona helmsley was the wife harry helmsly, one of the major -- much bigger real estate