i think, there are rules, everybody should abide by them. and if we don't like them we should change the rules. >> sean: singing the national anthem at the lincoln memorial is against the rules. [ talking over each other ] >> sean: there was a 7-year-old girl the government shutdown her lemonade stand in oregon because she didn't have a food safety permit. >> right. >> sean: rules joe, got to follow the rules. >> excellent rules. >> we should change that rule. >> sean: how gracious to help a 7-year-old kid. >> if she happens to hire somebody or shares a partnership she may have to get them health care insurance. >> sean: she had to pay $120 for a per night run a lemonade