committed against a child he's a child molester he abducted her. >> possibly a rapist. >> perhaps in some way evidencesable to get her under his influence. >> and a murderer. >> she will be a key witness in exactly what happened to her mother. hopefully it wasn't a point where this guy brain washed her. i don't think it was a love relationship where she was a willing participant especially with respect to the mother. >> why not? >> i don't believe that. >> she is 12. >> it was a short time she was with him. i don't think a 12-year-old is going to willingly participate in the murder of her mother to run off with this guy. >> go ahead. >> geraldo, being the lawyer that you are i just like to know what evidence you have that he's a creep he's sleazy a low life. >> he has a couple of arrests. beat up a cop. >> everybody in this room may have a couple of arrests. >> speak for yourself. >> look, obviously it doesn't