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rigorous that you really like will be better. >> look at the bright side. so optimists live longer, leslie? >> no, actually. we found that the most cheerful optimistic kids live shorter lives. >> get out of here! >> dead serious. >> so do you think the downtrodden will live to 111? >> not really the downtrodden but people who are persistent and prudent and stick with things and if -- if you're a worryier, for example, that's fine. >> this is a group their entire lives, you'll worry yourself sick. leslie? >> not true. >> not true! >> you can worry and live? >> you can! i mean, we don't strive to worry and we tend to think of it as a really negative thing. people who worry about stuff actually plan differently and they sort of take care of themselves. so a bit of worry is actually good. particularly if you're a man. >> especially for men. the men who had crises and were worryiers, they thrived.

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