relative optimism and his call that all we need to do is to increase, you know, pass his bill which he's been saying whether or not the numbers go up or down. jon: kirsten, is the white house trying to put lipstick on a pig here? >> well, look, the numbers are not what they had predicted they wanted them to be which was 8%, and i think 8% is sort of the magic number for them, and they're not getting to that number. it is the first time that the unemployment rate has dropped since july, so at least it's dropped. it's moving in the right direction. there were pretty broad-based gains in terms of jobs. so i think that, you know, it's not -- it's the trend that's in the right direction, and that's a good thing. i think the president's correct that they need to pass the jobs bill. i don't think he's, you know, playing small ball. i think he just can't get congress to do anything, and he'd be happy to do more and do something meaningful to actually try to effect those. jon: quick round robin on our second question of the day and,