to give them a tip? >> i know some of the people over there. i actually know the people at msnbc in terms of the top people because i have "apprentice" on nbc and i know them well and have respect. should they call me i would give them ideas a lot better than what they have on now. all you have to do is watch msnbc and you can be a 7-year-old child and tell them what they are doing wrong. it's pathetic. >> greta: is the a site for the news change or -- appetite for news changing or people sick of politics? >> i think their politics are wrong. in politic politics in many case perceived as dishonest so people aren't trusting. >> greta: dishonest or you just don't agree with them? >> it's not that. i think people aren't trusting them. when they don't trust, you don't watch. you had the great walter cronkite. when you watched him, you thrusted him. he was like your father. it never forget, to me he was the ultimate. edward r. morro was great but i didn't see him. i watched walter cronkite.

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