and one of the proposals of vice-presidential nominee paul ryan. jon? jon: jim angle in washington. interesting food for thought there. thanks. >> you bet. >> jon's report showing the recovery is still struggling to gain momentum at least when it comes to the employment situation. will the fed intervene? what the truth about these numbers? we have a lot of great questions for our panel today. steve moore, senior economics writer for "wall street journal." mike santoli, associate editor of "baron's" magazine. jeffrey frankel, former member of president clinton's coins sieve economic advisors. welcome to you all. a lot of questions from our viewers about the truth. mike wants to know what is the true number, the real unemployment number all americans should know. >> you should know all of them. should know they're also estimates. right now the number for august of 96,000 net new jobs is an estimate based on surveys, obviously the 8%