through the yard and not look over their shoulders. they wont to fraternize, be friendly with the inmates. >> so they violate the department of correction rules and all of the requirements. and that's the problem. >> it is a problem, but it's also a problem that they need to do it because they kind of do need to do it in order to have that kind of rapport with the inmates. >> wow. >> they don't want a situation where they're walking around afraid for their life. >> i'm not sure for maximum security prison -- >> maybe they need more officers then. that's the problem. they can't -- >> michael, thanks so much for being with us. again. and coming up, escaped murderer david sweat still on the loose, but for how long? we're going to ask a survivalist, next. h what up wheels! mr. auto-mo-deal! hey, it's the wheel deal! hey, hey, the duke of deals! i know a few guys in the rental car biz. let's go, 'wheels'. rental car deals up to 40% off.